Don't you think this could potentially be a very formidable ticket. If Edwards doesn't win the nomination, I really want him to be the VP slot, since he is not running for the senate anymore. How many of our ATPN conservatives will vote for a Kerry Edwards ticket?
How well would a Edwards+Kerry ticket fare?
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I refuse to support any candidate that doesn't want Bush tried as a war criminal. So far Kerry has not said he wants Bush arrested and tried as a war criminal. When that day comes I'll support whoever will have him imprisoned.
Even though I am off in Texas, Dean's message has touched me, and I remain a Dean supporter. I hope he wins, but anyone running right now, (asside from Al Sharpton) is better than who we have now (Mr. Bush).
Are you denying that Bush lied about WMD, Saddam's regime, and that he didn't have prior notice of the 9/11 attacks? Bush forced Bin Laden to attack so they he could strip us of our rights and make McDonalds more profitable. Have you not seen how they have contracts now to provide restaurants and food service in Kabul and Baghdad? Just wait until Bushie invades Iran and puts a McDonald's on ever corner in Tehran. The only person more dangerous than Bush is Jeff Bezos.
Dean's message resonated with me too. But Kerry and Edwards have hijacked it. I watched Edwards' stump speech tonight, and he says the same exact thing as Dean sans anger. I think after tonight's ridiculous meltdown, Dean may be cooked. Its a terrible thing because his grassroots organization is so great and so amazing, and he blew it for us with that one speech. In my opinion Kerry is too boring and odd looking. Edwards would be a great President, but he decided to not opt out of public financing and Bush will obliterate him in the late Spring.
KK
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Originally posted by: Mill
Take your Conservative drivel somewhere else.
LOL.
I think dems have a better chance with Edwards than any other candidate out there. Dean will get you only the far left/angry democrats which will not get them in the white house. Kerry, I don't think will pull as many on the fence people as Edwards could. I'm not sure why I feel this, maybe it's just that Kerry seems more political than Edwards and the ones on the fence probably aren't as politically charged as the ones that know who they want to vote for. Clark, well he's just a bit more right than Dean, and I don't think that him being a General will get him the support required for a legit run at the Whitehouse. Liberman, nice guy, maybe too nice, but won't make it too far into the process as there are too many other players out there.
That's just this conservative's viewpoint, nothing more.
KK
Edwards would get painted quite easily as inexperienced for the Presidency of White House. First time Senator with no foreign policy experience. Ack. Thats why hes a great VP though. He can bring some of the on the fence people for Kerry. Kerry has the experience to work the White House, and can't be painted as weak on national defense/foreign policy, and though I agree he doesn't have the appeal to bring the on the fence people, he doesn't necessary put them off either like Dean would.
No Yankee Democrat has been elected President since Kennedy. The reason is because the South is filled with active and retired military and, ta-da, conservative Southerners.
At first blush I'd give Kerry very little chance to beat Bush. If he joined Graham as VP he might win Florida, but no other red states.
An Edwards/Graham ticket is probably the strongest possible Dem ticket.
-Robert
At first blush I'd give Kerry very little chance to beat Bush. If he joined Graham as VP he might win Florida, but no other red states.
An Edwards/Graham ticket is probably the strongest possible Dem ticket.
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Remember that Kerry is a Vietnam vet. that may attrach some of the South depending on his views. Very little has been protrayed on him. most of the spotlight was on Dean.
If Kerry does well in NH, then he will be under the microscope
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The only thing I hope for is that they have a Presidential Debate between Bush and the Dem Candidate that is just about the merits of the Iraqi invasion and occupation. I would love to see Bush try and justify misleading the American Public in his own words! It might not be enough to cause him to lose the election but it sure would be educational for the American Public.
The most intriguing aspect of Election 2004 is the role reversal. Virtually all of the major Democratic candidates have compelling personal stories they will use to "introduce" themselves to the American public, while the incumbent will spend his time talking about what he's done in office. Kerry can do both which may be the reason people in Iowa took a liking to him (don't know what that means for Dean).
Bush cannot "create" the same kind of fantasy curriculum vitae as he did in 2000. He has to run on the actual record of "accomplishments". Granted, I imagine he will spend the next 7 months talking about how much better the future will be than the present.
Bush cannot "create" the same kind of fantasy curriculum vitae as he did in 2000. He has to run on the actual record of "accomplishments". Granted, I imagine he will spend the next 7 months talking about how much better the future will be than the present.
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I think it would do pretty well actually.
Edwards & Braun would have been a more interesting ticket if she hadn't dropped out.
Edwards & Braun would have been a more interesting ticket if she hadn't dropped out.
Interesting? Sure. Successful? I very much doubt it would get much of anywhere.
Personally, I'd like to see a Kerry, Edwards ticket.(I've mentioned this a few times
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Interesting? Sure. Successful? I very much doubt it would get much of anywhere.
Personally, I'd like to see a Kerry, Edwards ticket.(I've mentioned this a few times
True, a Kerry/Edwards ticket would be interesting. Though, from what I've seen and heard about Edwards, I don't think he'll settle for vp (I know some here look at him as a potential dem. vp, but I just don't see this guy settling for anything less than the presidency).
Originally posted by: JackStorm
Originally posted by: Strk
Interesting? Sure. Successful? I very much doubt it would get much of anywhere.
Personally, I'd like to see a Kerry, Edwards ticket.(I've mentioned this a few times
True, a Kerry/Edwards ticket would be interesting. Though, from what I've seen and heard about Edwards, I don't think he'll settle for vp (I know some here look at him as a potential dem. vp, but I just don't see this guy settling for anything less than the presidency).
Yeah, he seems to be an all or nothing kind of person, which could prove to be troublesome; I'd really like to see him run with Kerry though.
It would be great. Two coward sellouts to the Iraq way who voted yes because of fear they'd be voted out in midterm elections running abainst a war monger. Real great. Why don't those two guttless wonders crawl in a hole and give the Americn people a real choice. Thank God that ass Gebleat is gone. And good by soon to Liverwort, Senator Zombie.
Looks more and more like Nader should run. Screw the democrats if they want to run republicans.
Looks more and more like Nader should run. Screw the democrats if they want to run republicans.
I say Clark/Edwards is the way to go.
No one beats Clark on military issues, or on foreign policy, or on actual leadership experience. And he has favorable positions on domestic issues as well. When Clark speaks he is full of energy and hope for the future. Edwards brings this to the table too, but he is just not experienced enough.
Plus, Clark was opposed to the war, and warned of the mess we are in now. A little intelligence and foresight is something we could use in the White House, something we have missed for the last 3 years.
No one beats Clark on military issues, or on foreign policy, or on actual leadership experience. And he has favorable positions on domestic issues as well. When Clark speaks he is full of energy and hope for the future. Edwards brings this to the table too, but he is just not experienced enough.
Plus, Clark was opposed to the war, and warned of the mess we are in now. A little intelligence and foresight is something we could use in the White House, something we have missed for the last 3 years.
Coward? How about we do a comparison of Kerry's war record and Bush's. Also, why is there an issue about being against Iraq right now? Right now we have thousands of Americans over there, over 500 dead American soldiers, several thousand dead Iraqis, regular attacks on soldiers, billions of dollars invested and, of course, there is Sistani. I guess reporters were right at making a fuss about Rumsfeld's use of slog when describing the current status, because a slog would be a turn towards the better at the moment.
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Moonie
Anyone who has been engaged in combat has different views than those of you that Monday morning quarterback.
Many people felt that the Iraq situation had to be resolved based on the information that was available.
The info may have been flawed, but the execution of the conflict to remove Saddam was proper.
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Anyone who has been engaged in combat has different views than those of you that Monday morning quarterback.
Many people felt that the Iraq situation had to be resolved based on the information that was available.
The info may have been flawed, but the execution of the conflict to remove Saddam was proper.
/cleaned up tone of original post
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