How we can get Bill back as president

[Zebo]

As most of you know Bill Clinton can't run again because of the 22nd amendment. But there is no law stating he can't be a vice president right?

So heres how we do it. Senator Strom Thurmond (who is 99 and carried 4 states in 48') we nominate for President with Bill Clinton as his Vice. God orbid old Stromy dies but If he does we could have Bill back

 

[aphex]

you fergot the 'f' in forbid

 

[Amused]

Gawd why?

 

[iamwiz82]

why would you want him back?! :Q Do you enjoy selling secrets to the chinese for cash?

 

[Lucky]

forget waiting for him to die, that wont happen for at least another 100 years. What you'd do is have ol' Bill persuade congress using the 25th ammendment that Thurmond is mentally incapable of being president and just steal it.

 

[Beau]

Why in God's great name (or in any concious state if you're athiest [gotta do the whole PC thing]) would we want to do that?

 

[DaiShan]

While I wouldn't necessarily want Bill back in the White House (he had his 8 years, it is time to move on) you have to remember Carbonyl, that here most of these people think it is ok to have a policy of deficit spending (As per GW's ways). Now our president has repeatedly blamed his mishandling of the budget surplus that we enjoyed at the beginning of his term on the war on terror, but if you look at the facts the money was well on its way to being spent before 9/11 (through his insightful tax break...)Me, I would have paid down the national debt, but apparently the wealthy need a tax break, so get one they did. I am so sick and tired of elected officials only worrying about which legislation will get them elected for another term instead of worrying about policy, it is sickening. Any how thanks for listening to my semi-rant.

 

[Zebo]

Originally posted by: Lucky
forget waiting for him to die, that wont happen for at least another 100 years. What you'd do is have ol' Bill persuade congress using the 25th ammendment that Thurmond is mentally incapable of being president and just steal it.

I like it

 

[Fausto]

Originally posted by: AmusedOne
Gawd why?

It would amost be worth it just to see Barr and Newt's heads explode upon learning that Bill was going to be back in office.

 

[Chipster]

As most of you know Bill Clinton can't run again because of the 22nd amendment.

Thank God for the 22nd amendment. The guy was a whore.

 

[Spook]

I'm still trying to figure out how to get Reagan back... but I've pretty much given up hope.....

I guess Bush is the next best thing....



I agree with some of the above, why the hell would you want Clinton back.....


Actually the real way to get Clinton back, is to vote for her in 2004....

 

[Zebo]

WHY????

On his watch:

-107 consecutive months of economic expansion.
-Deficit of $290bn in 1992, to the largest surplus on record - $167bn in 2000.
-More jobs have been created than by any previous administration, an average of 248,000 a month, more than in the whole 10 years preceding.
- Unemployment, at 3.9%, is at its lowest in more than three decades.
-More people than ever own their own homes.
- Inflation at 1.9% in 1999 is at the lowest since 1965.
-Workers have seen real wages rise for five consecutive years.
-He has helped 7m Americans out of poverty, surpassing the record of Lyndon Johnson.

Oh yea it's the repulican congress I forget

 

[Orsorum]

Originally posted by: Carbonyl
WHY????

On his watch:

-107 consecutive months of economic expansion.
-Deficit of $290bn in 1992, to the largest surplus on record - $167bn in 2000.
-More jobs have been created than by any previous administration, an average of 248,000 a month, more than in the whole 10 years preceding.
- Unemployment, at 3.9%, is at its lowest in more than three decades.
-More people than ever own their own homes.
- Inflation at 1.9% in 1999 is at the lowest since 1965.
-Workers have seen real wages rise for five consecutive years.
-He has helped 7m Americans out of poverty, surpassing the record of Lyndon Johnson.

Oh yea it's the repulican congress I forget

I may be wrong... but I've heard that most economic effects of a president's actions aren't truly felt until four to eight years later. You can have immediate spending effects, but long-term effects (I think) can be more powerful and more pervasive.

 

[Spook]

nm

 

[hoihtah]

Originally posted by: AmusedOne
Gawd why?

 

[Zebo]

Originally posted by: Zakath15

Originally posted by: Carbonyl
WHY????

On his watch:

-107 consecutive months of economic expansion.
-Deficit of $290bn in 1992, to the largest surplus on record - $167bn in 2000.
-More jobs have been created than by any previous administration, an average of 248,000 a month, more than in the whole 10 years preceding.
- Unemployment, at 3.9%, is at its lowest in more than three decades.
-More people than ever own their own homes.
- Inflation at 1.9% in 1999 is at the lowest since 1965.
-Workers have seen real wages rise for five consecutive years.
-He has helped 7m Americans out of poverty, surpassing the record of Lyndon Johnson.

Oh yea it's the repulican congress I forget

I may be wrong... but I've heard that most economic effects of a president's actions aren't truly felt until four to eight years later. You can have immediate spending effects, but long-term effects (I think) can be more powerful and more pervasive.

Ah .........so the lead time is 4 years. So obviously Carter was responsible for Reagans success Carter the best pres ever!!!

 

[Orsorum]

Originally posted by: Carbonyl

Ah .........so the lead time is 4 years. So obviously Carter was responsible for Reagans success Carter the best pres ever!!!

Great!

Just means that GB and Reagan were responsible for Clinton's success. Dunno, I don't know if it's a reliable observation, though.

 

[SaltBoy]

All I can say is:

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I believe I have messed up this thread. You're welcome.

 

[DevilsAdvocate]

On his watch:

-107 consecutive months of economic expansion.

What did he do to cause this?

-Deficit of $290bn in 1992, to the largest surplus on record - $167bn in 2000.

You should thank the Republican Congress... which is Constitutionally vested with the spending power... not the President.

-More jobs have been created than by any previous administration, an average of 248,000 a month, more than in the whole 10 years preceding.

What did he do to cause this?

What does the President - in his Constitutional capacity - have to do with this?

- Unemployment, at 3.9%, is at its lowest in more than three decades.

What did he do to cause this?

-More people than ever own their own homes.

What did he do to cause this?

- Inflation at 1.9% in 1999 is at the lowest since 1965.

What did he do to cause this?

-Workers have seen real wages rise for five consecutive years.

What did he do to cause this?

This is the natural product of an economic expansion that he had nothing to do with.

-He has helped 7m Americans out of poverty, surpassing the record of Lyndon Johnson.

Where in the hell do you get this? Lyndon Johnson? Bwahahahahaha! Lyndon Johnson has created a system that has perpetuated the poverty of generations of Americans ...

All I have to say is that you have no understanding of the Constitution of the United States and the Constitutional role of any of the players... Just because somebody is "there" when something happens does not mean that they had anything to do with what actually happened.

How can you give the President credit for everything and assign no credit (where it really is due) to the Republican Congress? The answer, quite simply, is that you can't.

Answer this one question - What did Bill Clinton DO?

 

[Linflas]

Originally posted by: Carbonyl

Originally posted by: Zakath15

Originally posted by: Carbonyl
WHY????

On his watch:

-107 consecutive months of economic expansion.
-Deficit of $290bn in 1992, to the largest surplus on record - $167bn in 2000.
-More jobs have been created than by any previous administration, an average of 248,000 a month, more than in the whole 10 years preceding.
- Unemployment, at 3.9%, is at its lowest in more than three decades.
-More people than ever own their own homes.
- Inflation at 1.9% in 1999 is at the lowest since 1965.
-Workers have seen real wages rise for five consecutive years.
-He has helped 7m Americans out of poverty, surpassing the record of Lyndon Johnson.

Oh yea it's the repulican congress I forget

I may be wrong... but I've heard that most economic effects of a president's actions aren't truly felt until four to eight years later. You can have immediate spending effects, but long-term effects (I think) can be more powerful and more pervasive.

Ah .........so the lead time is 4 years. So obviously Carter was responsible for Reagans success Carter the best pres ever!!!

If I recall correctly the during first few years of the Reagan presidency we went into a pretty deep recession which did not end until early 1983. From then on we experienced one of the most prolonged expansions in the history of the US. Some might argue that the shallow recession that was experienced in the early 90's was a result of George Bush senior breaking his no new taxes pledge and screwing with the simplified tax provisions enacted in the Tax Reform Act of 1986. The current recession actually began in the 4th quarter of 2000 while Mr Clinton was still President.

 

[iamwiz82]

people, you really need to take macro-economics before spouting off about economic facts.

 

[DevilsAdvocate]

Actually - there is a significant "latency" involved with the economy... 4 years is about right from everything I have read...

The problem is that it is hard to determine what a president actually has to do with the "economy" per se.

You can say that President Clinton's manipulation of the prime rate in the closing days of the presidency may have triggered a recession... all of this is conjecture, becuase the economy is a very complex thing that often defies explanation.

 

[Dedpuhl]

Originally posted by: DevilsAdvocate
On his watch:

-107 consecutive months of economic expansion.

What did he do to cause this?

-Deficit of $290bn in 1992, to the largest surplus on record - $167bn in 2000.

You should thank the Republican Congress... which is Constitutionally vested with the spending power... not the President.

-More jobs have been created than by any previous administration, an average of 248,000 a month, more than in the whole 10 years preceding.

What did he do to cause this?

What does the President - in his Constitutional capacity - have to do with this?

- Unemployment, at 3.9%, is at its lowest in more than three decades.

What did he do to cause this?

-More people than ever own their own homes.

What did he do to cause this?

- Inflation at 1.9% in 1999 is at the lowest since 1965.

What did he do to cause this?

-Workers have seen real wages rise for five consecutive years.

What did he do to cause this?

This is the natural product of an economic expansion that he had nothing to do with.

-He has helped 7m Americans out of poverty, surpassing the record of Lyndon Johnson.

Where in the hell do you get this? Lyndon Johnson? Bwahahahahaha! Lyndon Johnson has created a system that has perpetuated the poverty of generations of Americans ...

All I have to say is that you have no understanding of the Constitution of the United States and the Constitutional role of any of the players... Just because somebody is "there" when something happens does not mean that they had anything to do with what actually happened.

How can you give the President credit for everything and assign no credit (where it really is due) to the Republican Congress? The answer, quite simply, is that you can't.

Answer this one question - What did Bill Clinton DO?

WHAT DID HE DO?

He screwed unattractive interns

He was impeached

He.......well, that's about it

 

[Rob9874]

Originally posted by: Carbonyl
WHY????

On his watch:

-107 consecutive months of economic expansion.
-Deficit of $290bn in 1992, to the largest surplus on record - $167bn in 2000.
-More jobs have been created than by any previous administration, an average of 248,000 a month, more than in the whole 10 years preceding.
- Unemployment, at 3.9%, is at its lowest in more than three decades.
-More people than ever own their own homes.
- Inflation at 1.9% in 1999 is at the lowest since 1965.
-Workers have seen real wages rise for five consecutive years.
-He has helped 7m Americans out of poverty, surpassing the record of Lyndon Johnson.

Oh yea it's the repulican congress I forget

I would like to know which specific actions of Bill's are responsible for these results? Arbitrarily being president at the time of economic success does not automatically give you credit. I agree with the above statement, that these results were partly the result of Reagan's "trickle down" economics, where corporations were given tax breaks, so they could afford to provide more jobs. Democrats' solution is always "tax the rich," but where do you think jobs come from?

 

[rickn]

as my first act of president, I decree that Monica Lewisinsky's blue dress be immortalized into the Smithsonian, fossil division

Who in their right mind would want that letch back in the white house?