How to WIPE your HD clean if RIAA comes around?

Toothpick

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two questons:

1) whats RIAA

2) why would you write this ? I really suggest you rewrite your title b4 this gets locked

 

Slogun

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1)Recording Industry Association of America
2)Translated topic: "Can you guys tell me how to hide stolen merchandise"

No value judgement intended, just explaining.

 

Slogun

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Yea, actually, what the RIAA does is monitor the internet traffic on file shares. So they know what you shared based on that traffic monitoring, not by looking at what's on yours or anyone else's hard drive per se.

In recent suits against individuals, I didn't hear about anyone's comp being impounded, not yet.
 

ScottMac

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As mentioned above, by the time the RIAA comes knocking (or mails you or your ISP a warning) they've already got you. You're screwed.

You may as well just keep listening to it (the most expensive music on the planet)....you're gonna end up paying for it - apparently thousands of dollars.

I wouldn't worry about it, ya'll are much smarter than the RIAA people. They hardly ever catch anybody at this stuff.

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Scott
 

Codewiz

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The RIAA can't impound your computer. They just use the logs of what you were sharing as already stated. The RIAA would have to get the government authorities to arrest you to get your computer.
 

EeyoreX

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And RIAA has nothing on you besides information from hacking into your PC (like breaking into your house with no warrant).
The RIAA is not hacking into your computer. If they were, all that information would be inadmissable and they couldn't even begin to file a lawsuit. They monitor traffic, which AFAIK is not illegal (as "hacking" is). But that's been mentioned already. Plus, if you are sharing 1000 on Kazzaa, they could just have any number of hired goons look at your file share. Which is exceptionally legal, as you opened yourself up to it. No hacking involved. I assume a script/bot can do this too, with no human needed other than the script writter. As was also mentioned, once they notify you or your ISP or "come around" it's already half past too late.
I wouldn't worry about it, ya'll are much smarter than the RIAA people. They hardly ever catch anybody at this stuff.
1600 lawsuits in one week may not sound like much, but it sounds to me like a lot more than "hardly". And they say that number is just the beginning.

\Dan
 

Glitchny

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since my ISP is through my college wouldnt they ahve to supeona the entire college or the entire SUNY system and their IP to even look at my files?
 

wetcat007

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Best way to make sure data is goine, is step one, get some giant big sub woofer magnets, and put them on the hd for a while then rip it apart with a ax.
 

Slogun

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They do not need to look at your files.
They will see that your IP address has shared such and such files.
They will then subpeona your isp for the name of the person who uses your IP address.
Why not subpeona your college? They have already successfully won court cases against Verizon and other large ISPs who balked at turning over their customer's identities.
 

Slogun

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"1600 lawsuits in one week may not sound like much"


" Last week, 261 lawsuits were filed" The New York Times, 9/13/03
 

EeyoreX

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"1600 lawsuits in one week may not sound like much"


" Last week, 261 lawsuits were filed" The New York Times, 9/13/03
I'm sorry. That was my bad. The 1600 number I came up with is number of people sent subpoenas by the RIAA. They aren't lawsuits. Yet.

Linky-do

\Dan
 

Slogun

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Originally posted by: Slogun
They do not need to look at your files.
They will see that your IP address has shared such and such files.
They will then subpeona your isp for the name of the person who uses your IP address.
Why not subpeona your college? They have already successfully won court cases against Verizon and other large ISPs who balked at turning over their customer's identities.

Found this in EeyoreX's link: "The industry is also pursuing subpoenas at universities around the country seeking to identify music file traders. "



 

BeauJangles

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Basically, data is very hard to destroy. Your best bet wouldn't be using software. Even after a zeroing of a drive, it can still be recovered.
 

Barnaby W. Füi

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Don't use kazaa / grokster / morpheus / limewire / <whatever other lame software they're targetting>. There are alternatives that get little to no attention, and are "underground" enough that the RIAA (at least so far) has not / will not come after them.
 

skyking

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Originally posted by: BlinderBomber
Basically, data is very hard to destroy. Your best bet wouldn't be using software. Even after a zeroing of a drive, it can still be recovered.

A $120.00 drive is pennies compared to the troubles you could have, If you can't toss it........................oh well.
 

apoppin

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Originally posted by: skyking
Originally posted by: BlinderBomber
Basically, data is very hard to destroy. Your best bet wouldn't be using software. Even after a zeroing of a drive, it can still be recovered.

A $120.00 drive is pennies compared to the troubles you could have, If you can't toss it........................oh well.
Beware buying a used HD from FS/T . . . ;)

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:D

And JOIN the RIAA BOYCOTT on Black Friday . . .

see the (long) OT topic.

 

ArmchairAthlete

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Plus, if you are sharing 1000 on Kazzaa, they could just have any number of hired goons look at your file share.

There is an option in K++ to disable listing of your shared files, not sure how far that goes.

I need to find me some good IRC channels methinks.
 

oog

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write random data to the drive 6-7 times, wiping it cleanly enough for most classified government work.