How to win Arguments

bapace

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Sorry if this is a repost, I searched first.

How to Win Arguments (copy and pasted from http://www.hellskitchen.com/argue.htm)



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I argue very well. Ask any of my remaining friends. I can win an argument on any topic, against any opponent. People know this, and steer clear of me at parties. Often, as a sign of their great respect, they don't even invite me. You too can win arguments. Simply follow these rules:

Drink Liquor.
Suppose you're at a party and some hotshot intellectual is expounding on the economy of Peru, a subject you know nothing about. If you're drinking some health-fanatic drink like grapefruit juice, you'll hang back, afraid to display your ignorance, while the hotshot enthralls your date. But if you drink several large martinis, you'll discover you have STRONG VIEWS about the Peruvian economy. You'll be a WEALTH of information. You'll argue forcefully, offering searing insights and possibly upsetting furniture. People will be impressed. Some may leave the room.


Make things up.
Suppose, in the Peruvian economy argument, you are trying to prove Peruvians are underpaid, a position you base solely on the fact that YOU are underpaid, and you're damned if you're going to let a bunch of Peruvians be better off. DON'T say: "I think Peruvians are underpaid." Say: "The average Peruvian's salary in 1981 dollars adjusted for the revised tax base is $1,452.81 per annum, which is $836.07 before the mean gross poverty level."


NOTE: Always make up exact figures.
If an opponent asks you where you got your information, make THAT up, too. Say: "This information comes from Dr. Hovel T. Moon's study for the Buford Commission published May 9, 1982. Didn't you read it?" Say this in the same tone of voice you would use to say "You left your soiled underwear in my bath house."


Use meaningless but weightly-sounding words and phrases.

Memorize this list:
Let me put it this way
In terms of
Vis-a-vis
Per se
As it were
Qua
So to speak
You should also memorize some Latin abbreviations such as "Q.E.D.," "e.g.," and "i.e." These are all short for "I speak Latin, and you do not."

Here's how to use these words and phrases. Suppose you want to say: "Peruvians would like to order appetizers more often, but they don't have enough money."

You never win arguments talking like that. But you WILL win if you say: "Let me put it this way. In terms of appetizers vis-a-vis Peruvians qua Peruvians, they would like to order them more often, so to speak, but they do not have enough money per se, as it were. Q.E.D."

Only a fool would challenge that statement.


Use snappy and irrelevant comebacks.
You need an arsenal of all-purpose irrelevent phrases to fire back at your opponents when they make valid points. The best are:


You're begging the question.
You're being defensive.
Don't compare apples and oranges.
What are your parameters?
This last one is especially valuable. Nobody, other than mathematicians, has the vaguest idea what "parameters" means.

Here's how to use your comebacks:


You say: "As Abraham Lincoln said in 1873..."
Your opponent says: "Lincoln died in 1865."
You say: "You're begging the question."

OR

You say: "Liberians, like most Asians..."
Your opponents says: "Liberia is in Africa."
You say: "You're being defensive."
Compare your opponent to Adolf Hitler.
This is your heavy artillery, for when your opponent is obviously right and you are spectacularly wrong. Bring Hitler up subtly. Say: "That sounds suspiciously like something Adolf Hitler might say" or "You certainly do remind me of Adolf Hitler."
So that's it: you now know how to out-argue anybody. Do not try to pull any of this on people who generally carry weapons.


NOTE: Do not try to pull any of this on people who generally carry weapons.

[Author unknown]
 

venk

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cliffs

1)You will never reproduce since you are too stupid to find the right hole.


P&N Guide to Winning Arguments

The Political Rebuttal

Person A: I think Peruvian Economy is based on solid financial principles

P&N Rebuttal: OMG YOUR AN ASSHOLE!!!!FVCK BUSH, HE DESTROY IRACK ND HELL DESTROY PERUVIA TOO!!!!!!!

The Social Rebuttal

Person A: I think Peruvian Economy is based on solid financial principles

P&N Rebuttal: YOU HATE MEXICANS DONT YOU!!!! U FVCKIN RACIST!!!!!


The Whiny Approach

Person A: I think Peruvian Economy is based on solid financial principles

P&N Rebuttal: MODS!!! BAN HIM HE's THINKING AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!11111


The OT approach

Person A: I think Peruvian Economy is based on solid financial principles

OT Rebuttal: pics or ban!!!!!
 

Ketteringo

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Originally posted by: bapace
Drink Liquor.
Suppose you're at a party and some hotshot intellectual is expounding on the economy of Peru, a subject you know nothing about. If you're drinking some health-fanatic drink like grapefruit juice, you'll hang back, afraid to display your ignorance, while the hotshot enthralls your date. But if you drink several large martinis, you'll discover you have STRONG VIEWS about the Peruvian economy. You'll be a WEALTH of information. You'll argue forcefully, offering searing insights and possibly upsetting furniture. People will be impressed. Some may leave the room.

N/A to this forum, sorry.
 

GoingUp

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Originally posted by: venk
cliffs

1)You will never reproduce since you are too stupid to find the right hole.


P&N Guide to Winning Arguments

The Political Rebuttal

Person A: I think Peruvian Economy is based on solid financial principles

P&N Rebuttal: OMG YOUR AN ASSHOLE!!!!FVCK BUSH, HE DESTROY IRACK ND HELL DESTROY PERUVIA TOO!!!!!!!

The Social Rebuttal

Person A: I think Peruvian Economy is based on solid financial principles

P&N Rebuttal: YOU HATE MEXICANS DONT YOU!!!! U FVCKIN RACIST!!!!!


The Whiny Approach

Person A: I think Peruvian Economy is based on solid financial principles

P&N Rebuttal: MODS!!! BAN HIM HE's THINKING AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!11111


The OT approach

Person A: I think Peruvian Economy is based on solid financial principles

OT Rebuttal: pics or ban!!!!!

:D
 

DaiShan

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Originally posted by: bapace
Sorry if this is a repost, I searched first.

How to Win Arguments (copy and pasted from http://www.hellskitchen.com/argue.htm)



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I argue very well. Ask any of my remaining friends. I can win an argument on any topic, against any opponent. People know this, and steer clear of me at parties. Often, as a sign of their great respect, they don't even invite me. You too can win arguments. Simply follow these rules:

Drink Liquor.
Suppose you're at a party and some hotshot intellectual is expounding on the economy of Peru, a subject you know nothing about. If you're drinking some health-fanatic drink like grapefruit juice, you'll hang back, afraid to display your ignorance, while the hotshot enthralls your date. But if you drink several large martinis, you'll discover you have STRONG VIEWS about the Peruvian economy. You'll be a WEALTH of information. You'll argue forcefully, offering searing insights and possibly upsetting furniture. People will be impressed. Some may leave the room.


Make things up.
Suppose, in the Peruvian economy argument, you are trying to prove Peruvians are underpaid, a position you base solely on the fact that YOU are underpaid, and you're damned if you're going to let a bunch of Peruvians be better off. DON'T say: "I think Peruvians are underpaid." Say: "The average Peruvian's salary in 1981 dollars adjusted for the revised tax base is $1,452.81 per annum, which is $836.07 before the mean gross poverty level."


NOTE: Always make up exact figures.
If an opponent asks you where you got your information, make THAT up, too. Say: "This information comes from Dr. Hovel T. Moon's study for the Buford Commission published May 9, 1982. Didn't you read it?" Say this in the same tone of voice you would use to say "You left your soiled underwear in my bath house."


Use meaningless but weightly-sounding words and phrases.

Memorize this list:
Let me put it this way
In terms of
Vis-a-vis
Per se
As it were
Qua
So to speak
You should also memorize some Latin abbreviations such as "Q.E.D.," "e.g.," and "i.e." These are all short for "I speak Latin, and you do not."

Here's how to use these words and phrases. Suppose you want to say: "Peruvians would like to order appetizers more often, but they don't have enough money."

You never win arguments talking like that. But you WILL win if you say: "Let me put it this way. In terms of appetizers vis-a-vis Peruvians qua Peruvians, they would like to order them more often, so to speak, but they do not have enough money per se, as it were. Q.E.D."

Only a fool would challenge that statement.


Use snappy and irrelevant comebacks.
You need an arsenal of all-purpose irrelevent phrases to fire back at your opponents when they make valid points. The best are:


You're begging the question.
You're being defensive.
Don't compare apples and oranges.
What are your parameters?
This last one is especially valuable. Nobody, other than mathematicians, has the vaguest idea what "parameters" means.

Here's how to use your comebacks:


You say: "As Abraham Lincoln said in 1873..."
Your opponent says: "Lincoln died in 1865."
You say: "You're begging the question."

OR

You say: "Liberians, like most Asians..."
Your opponents says: "Liberia is in Africa."
You say: "You're being defensive."
Compare your opponent to Adolf Hitler.
This is your heavy artillery, for when your opponent is obviously right and you are spectacularly wrong. Bring Hitler up subtly. Say: "That sounds suspiciously like something Adolf Hitler might say" or "You certainly do remind me of Adolf Hitler."
So that's it: you now know how to out-argue anybody. Do not try to pull any of this on people who generally carry weapons.


NOTE: Do not try to pull any of this on people who generally carry weapons.

[Author unknown]



Was that written by Bill O'reilly? :p
 

PHiuR

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i hate people who argue like that...if i had weapons i would just take it out and attack them. people need to argue with facts not just straight up bs from their huge assholes.
 

preslove

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Originally posted by: bapace
You have to read it, sorry, no cliffs.

I win most of my arguments with caps lock, exclamation points, and slightly altered expletives:

GIVE US THE FVCKING CLIFFS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1111!!!!!1111!!!
 

OulOat

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Originally posted by: preslove
Originally posted by: bapace
You have to read it, sorry, no cliffs.

I win most of my arguments with caps lock, exclamation points, and slightly altered expletives:

GIVE US THE FVCKING CLIFFS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1111!!!!!1111!!!

That sounds suspiciously like something Adolf Hitler might say...
 

HaxorNubcake

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But you WILL win if you say: "Let me put it this way. In terms of appetizers vis-a-vis Peruvians qua Peruvians, they would like to order them more often, so to speak, but they do not have enough money per se, as it were. Q.E.D."

correction: you'll sound like a fvcking idiot who throws random bullsh!it into sentences. The only reason to "walk away" is to avoid an idiot spewing nonsense
 

ktehmok

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Not a repost, but a whogivesafvck post?

Anyone who pulls that bullsh|t with me would be called on it immediately. Only an imbecile would accept any of that gibberish as an intelligent conversation.

Rename this thread to "How to look, act & prove you're a moron in ten easy words"?