How to use 200GB HDD for new XP install...possible?

[The Sauce]

Scored one of those 200GB HDD's...like in the deal. However I understand that in a fresh install of XP it is not capable of recognizing >138GB or something like that....even if it is already formatted to 200. Is there a workaround that anyone knows of for this?

 

[DaTT]

Slap me if I'm wrong, but I think XP can recognize (in NTFS) upwards of the TB size. I have never heard of it not recognizing anything over 138GB....but I don't know everything

 

[bacillus]

you'll need xp with sp1!

 

[Burninator]

Originally posted by: DaTT
Slap me if I'm wrong, but I think XP can recognize (in NTFS) upwards of the TB size. I have never heard of it not recognizing anything over 138GB....but I don't know everything

I remember seeing the same thing It should be fine with the latest patch

 

[Budman]

Originally posted by: bacillus
you'll need xp with sp1!

Yes you will,just slipstream SP1 into your cd.

 

[MichaelD]

I can't believe nobody has asked this question yet.

Why are you installing the OS to a 200GB partition? A waste of time and space, IMHO. Patition that bad boy!

Give the OS 40GB (more than enough forever) and the rest to your proggy's. You'll "never" have to worry about wiping again.

 

[amorse2183]

Originally posted by: MichaelD
I can't believe nobody has asked this question yet. Why are you installing the OS to a 200GB partition? A waste of time and space, IMHO. Patition that bad boy! Give the OS 40GB (more than enough forever) and the rest to your proggy's. You'll "never" have to worry about wiping again.

why partition? there is no benefit to it. maybe it did when fat16 was still an issue but not anymore.

 

[DaTT]

Originally posted by: amorse2183

Originally posted by: MichaelD
I can't believe nobody has asked this question yet. Why are you installing the OS to a 200GB partition? A waste of time and space, IMHO. Patition that bad boy! Give the OS 40GB (more than enough forever) and the rest to your proggy's. You'll "never" have to worry about wiping again.

why partition? there is no benefit to it. maybe it did when fat16 was still an issue but not anymore.

NO benefit? Where did you come up with that?

PRO's:

- Multiple OS'es
- Different File Systems
- Cheaper than buying an extra HDD
- Faster seek times
- Quicker to defrag (and less fragmentation on smaller partitions)
- Format certain partitions without losing your OS

CON's:

- None that I can think of

 

[MichaelD]

Originally posted by: DaTT

Originally posted by: amorse2183

Originally posted by: MichaelD
I can't believe nobody has asked this question yet. Why are you installing the OS to a 200GB partition? A waste of time and space, IMHO. Patition that bad boy! Give the OS 40GB (more than enough forever) and the rest to your proggy's. You'll "never" have to worry about wiping again.

why partition? there is no benefit to it. maybe it did when fat16 was still an issue but not anymore.

NO benefit? Where did you come up with that?

PRO's:

- Multiple OS'es
- Different File Systems
- Cheaper than buying an extra HDD
- Faster seek times
- Quicker to defrag (and less fragmentation on smaller partitions)
- Format certain partitions without losing your OS

CON's:

- None that I can think of

Thanks. Additionally:

WHEN (not if) Windows goes belly-up, you don't lose anything vital. You can have all your emails delivered to a .pst stored on a different partition, etc. All proggys on a different partition than the OS. You may have to make new shortcuts and such, but its' a whole lot better than reinstalling everything!

 

[tweeve2002]

Yea i just had a friend have this problem. and he does have SP1 installed. looks like we are reinstalling windows off my XP disk with SP1 instead of his As for Partitioning a drive that is a good idea even if you have muliple drives. i know he has an 80GIG in it now and wanted the 200 as extra storage. I think im going to have him split the 80 in half for the OS. on the next reinstall.

 

[John]

Originally posted by: MichaelD

Originally posted by: DaTT

Originally posted by: amorse2183

Originally posted by: MichaelD
I can't believe nobody has asked this question yet. Why are you installing the OS to a 200GB partition? A waste of time and space, IMHO. Patition that bad boy! Give the OS 40GB (more than enough forever) and the rest to your proggy's. You'll "never" have to worry about wiping again.

why partition? there is no benefit to it. maybe it did when fat16 was still an issue but not anymore.

NO benefit? Where did you come up with that?

PRO's:

- Multiple OS'es
- Different File Systems
- Cheaper than buying an extra HDD
- Faster seek times
- Quicker to defrag (and less fragmentation on smaller partitions)
- Format certain partitions without losing your OS

CON's:

- None that I can think of

Thanks. Additionally:

WHEN (not if) Windows goes belly-up, you don't lose anything vital. You can have all your emails delivered to a .pst stored on a different partition, etc. All proggys on a different partition than the OS. You may have to make new shortcuts and such, but its' a whole lot better than reinstalling everything!

I couldn't have said it better. Personally I use a 10GB c: partition for XP and the d: is everything else.

 

[The Sauce]

I see no advantage to having multiple partitions except for the potential confusion of having extra drive letters around to accidentally install things onto without meaning to. If I am going to reinstall windows I am going to have to reinstall all of the apps anyway, right? So what's the big deal about formatting one partition vs. two? Seems easier to me with just one. Plus with a 200GB HDD then the "Windows" partition would have to be at least 70GB and that's a lot of room to waste just on an OS. I am more interested int he slipstreamed SP1 thing if you are sure that would work.

 

[WinkOsmosis]

It will install fine, but the WinXP installer won't recognize the whole drive. You will have to make a partition, then when you have SP1 and drivers installed, format the rest. You should be using a smaller partition for windows install/programs anyway.

 

[WinkOsmosis]

Originally posted by: Snatchface
I see no advantage to having multiple partitions except for the potential confusion of having extra drive letters around to accidentally install things onto without meaning to. If I am going to reinstall windows I am going to have to reinstall all of the apps anyway, right? So what's the big deal about formatting one partition vs. two? Seems easier to me with just one. Plus with a 200GB HDD then the "Windows" partition would have to be at least 70GB and that's a lot of room to waste just on an OS. I am more interested int he slipstreamed SP1 thing if you are sure that would work.

Dude.. Are you stupid? Do you think your Windows and programs use 200gb? What do you plan to use the rest of the drive for? Do you want to format a whole 200gb drive and lose all your music, movies, downlads, etc every time you want to reinstall windows? How are you going to reinstall those when you format? I don't know what the hell you are talking about with a 70gb partition. My Windows partition is 20gb.

 

[The Sauce]

Originally posted by: WinkOsmosis

Originally posted by: Snatchface
I see no advantage to having multiple partitions except for the potential confusion of having extra drive letters around to accidentally install things onto without meaning to. If I am going to reinstall windows I am going to have to reinstall all of the apps anyway, right? So what's the big deal about formatting one partition vs. two? Seems easier to me with just one. Plus with a 200GB HDD then the "Windows" partition would have to be at least 70GB and that's a lot of room to waste just on an OS. I am more interested int he slipstreamed SP1 thing if you are sure that would work.

Dude.. Are you stupid? Do you think your Windows and programs use 200gb? What do you plan to use the rest of the drive for? Do you want to format a whole 200gb drive and lose all your music, movies, downlads, etc every time you want to reinstall windows? How are you going to reinstall those when you format? I don't know what the hell you are talking about with a 70gb partition. My Windows partition is 20gb.

I don't lose anything. I have it all backed up onto another HDD before I reinstall. Then it takes 5 minutes to copy it all back over. And as for the 70GB thing, if I have a 200GB HDD and need to get the biggest partition under 130GB (for windows to recognize it), then the remaining partition would be 70GB...unless I make three partitions and that would just get confusing.

 

[The Sauce]

So what you guys are suggesting is that I make a single small partition...say 20GB, install windows onto that, then after it is all installed with SP1 then repartition the drive? Can you even do that?

 

[Sid59]

formatting a 200 gig is A LOT SLOWER than formatting a 10 gig paritition.

 

[bjc112]

Originally posted by: Snatchface
So what you guys are suggesting is that I make a single small partition...say 20GB, install windows onto that, then after it is all installed with SP1 then repartition the drive? Can you even do that?

Yep.

Partition Magic 8 will allow you to resize and redistribute free space.

 

[SpeedFreak03]

Originally posted by: Snatchface
So what you guys are suggesting is that I make a single small partition...say 20GB, install windows onto that, then after it is all installed with SP1 then repartition the drive? Can you even do that?

I would suggest that you make a partition whatever size you want for your OS (maybe 20GB), install XP, then SP1, then use Drive Management (under computer management in Administrative tools) to make the rest of your partitions.

 

[JackBurton]

Originally posted by: WinkOsmosis

Originally posted by: Snatchface
I see no advantage to having multiple partitions except for the potential confusion of having extra drive letters around to accidentally install things onto without meaning to. If I am going to reinstall windows I am going to have to reinstall all of the apps anyway, right? So what's the big deal about formatting one partition vs. two? Seems easier to me with just one. Plus with a 200GB HDD then the "Windows" partition would have to be at least 70GB and that's a lot of room to waste just on an OS. I am more interested int he slipstreamed SP1 thing if you are sure that would work.

Dude.. Are you stupid? Do you think your Windows and programs use 200gb? What do you plan to use the rest of the drive for? Do you want to format a whole 200gb drive and lose all your music, movies, downlads, etc every time you want to reinstall windows? How are you going to reinstall those when you format? I don't know what the hell you are talking about with a 70gb partition. My Windows partition is 20gb.

No, are you stupid for wasting time partitioning? I use up 70GB in INSTALLED apps, and I like to have the abililty to use up my entire drive. I don't like running out of space on one partition. Partitioning is a waste of time and the OLD habit is kept alive by people that don't want to let go and realize it is not needed any more. I'd do ONE 200GB partition.

 

[ElFenix]

i don't like having all my mp3s and other media files, plus all the programs i've downloaded (drivers, utilities, etc) on the same partition as windows. so, no, you're stupid for saying that its not needed anymore

 

[draggoon01]

so a winxp sp1 cd will recognize the full capacity of a fresh 200gb drive, and let you partition/format the drive after booting of cd?

 

[JackBurton]

Originally posted by: ElFenix
i don't like having all my mp3s and other media files, plus all the programs i've downloaded (drivers, utilities, etc) on the same partition as windows. so, no, you're stupid for saying that its not needed anymore

Riiiight, ok, you keep partitioning until you are blue in the face. You're really cool. I wish I could have all those drive letter.

And read what I posted above. I have 70GB of INSTALLED apps on my 160GB main drive. My other three drives (160GB, and 2X 120GB) store my apps, videos, music and whatever else I have. So tell me again why I need to partition my main hard drive?

 

[EeyoreX]

IMO, people who are calling other stupid for their prefered use of partitions, are stupid. Whatever works best for each user. Gee-suz. For the record, I partition. I don't get confused by an extra drive letter or two. I am smart enough to be able to distinguish a "C:" form "D:". I partition soley for my own organization. Is there a benefit? Probably not. Is there some kind of loss. Probably not. To each there own. I also partition because it is easier for me to back up a small-ish 20GB partition with my OS and apps than to back up a 120GB partition. People who don't partition are never going to change my mind. Don't try. Just like I am not going to try and change yours. To paraphrase: <singing>"It's your computer, you can [artition if you want to. Partition if you want to."</singing>

Now, I shall never sing again.

<edit>Even with Service Pack 1 Slipstreamed, Windows may not recognize your entire 200GB partition. There is a registry entry that also needs to be changed with the "original release" of XP Pro and Home. I am not saying the slipstream version won't work, but if not, take a look here. You can even look at that MS Knowledge Base article anyhow, to make sure you are set up right.</edit>

\Dan

 

[ssanches]

Partitioning is a waste of time and the OLD habit is kept alive by people that don't want to let go and realize it is not needed any more. I'd do ONE 200GB partition.

To each one his own... I prefer having multiple partitions, even on a 40GB HDD. Partitioning IMHO helps organizing files properly...I keep 1 for the OS and Apps, another for databases and documents, another for videos and another for MP3s