How to survive a plane crash

Aberforth

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I'm sure most people here would want to survive a plane crash if it happens...I hope you guys find it helpful.

Make a plan. When you board a plane, get in tune with your environment. Visibility will be reduced in a smoke-filled cabin, so count the number of rows between you and the two nearest exits.
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Always listen to the pre-flight safety briefing and study the seat-back safety card. Don't assume you know it all, as every type of airplane has different safety instructions.

If you're sitting in an exit row, study the door and make sure you know how to open it. Cabin crew will not order you to operate the exit, so make sure you have confidence to take control in an accident.

Dress properly. You will need to be able to stay warm if you survive a crash so wear long sleeves and trousers and avoid wearing high heels as these must be removed before evacuating via an emergency slide.

Keep your seatbelt securely fastened. But also remember how it unfastens.

"It has been found that people who have survived emergency landings frantically search for where they expect the seatbelt to fasten [on the hip as in a car]," says Andy Clubb, BA Safety Course Director. "You often find bruising and cuts in that area," he added.

The safest seat probably doesn't exist.

In 2007, Popular Mechanics magazine analyzed data for crashes since 1971 and found that more passengers near the tail of a plane survived crashes than those in the first few rows up front.

But in last week's Turkish Airlines crash, reports suggest that survivors were sat in the center of the plane. Many believe this section is safest because it is also the strongest part of the fuselage. That said, the fuel tank is also located in the center, warns Clubb.

A seat next to an exit does not always guarantee a speedy evacuation since some exits may not function after an accident.

And while an aisle seat may ensure an easier exit, you are also at risk from falling objects from overhead lockers. A errant bottle of duty free is also a more common occurrence than an air crash.

Check for a life jacket before taking off. It will be in a plastic casing usually under the seat.

Do not inflate your jacket in the plane. Many of the 123 who were killed in the crash of the Ethiopian Airlines Boeing 767 off the Comoro Islands near Africa in 1996 had inflated their jackets in the cabin. This meant that they were unable to dive and reach the exits when the cabin flooded.

Brace yourself for impact. The aim is to prevent being rapidly propelled forward. Return your seat to the upright position and lower your head to your knees or rest it on the seat in front of you.

Put your hands behind your head, but do not lace your fingers. Keep your elbows to the side of your head, but not over knees.

Many of the victims and survivors of the M1 Kegworth crash of 1989 (79 of the 126 people on board survived) had legs broken below the knee as their legs were forced against the seats in front of them. So keep your feet as far back as possible.

And ignore Internet rumors that the brace position guarantees to break your neck and back to make death as painless as possible, says Clubb. It has been proven to minimize injury.

Jump. When it's time to leave the aircraft, exit will be by slide. Jump feet-first, arms folded across chest and lean forward.
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And if you hesitate, Clubb warns, a member of cabin crew is likely to push you

Link: http://edition.cnn.com/2009/TR...ne.accident/index.html
 

amdhunter

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Originally posted by: Aberforth
Brace yourself for impact. Return your seat to the upright position and lower your head to your knees or rest it on the seat in front of you. This will ensure that your neck snaps and you'll have a quick painless death.

Put your hands behind your head, but do not lace your fingers. Keep your elbows to the side of your head, but not over knees.

Fixed.
 

Aberforth

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Oct 12, 2006
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Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: Aberforth
Originally posted by: waggy
i have a foolproof way to survive a plane crash...stay home!

not all are couch potatoes......

who said staying home is being a couch potatoe?

Oh, I thought you meant people who world travel via internet without moving their butts.
 

Slimline

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Jul 19, 2004
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Originally posted by: amdhunter
Originally posted by: Aberforth
Brace yourself for impact. Return your seat to the upright position and lower your head to your knees or rest it on the seat in front of you. This will ensure that your neck snaps and you'll have a quick painless death.

Put your hands behind your head, but do not lace your fingers. Keep your elbows to the side of your head, but not over knees.

Fixed.

Proof?
 

Jeff7

Lifer
Jan 4, 2001
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Originally posted by: lifeobry
The illusion of control...
Yes indeed.

If there was a good way of surviving plane crashes, mechanics would be out of a job.

"So what if it crashes, everyone will be fine. Just buckle up and brace for impact.";)

 

Kelvrick

Lifer
Feb 14, 2001
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Originally posted by: Slimline
Originally posted by: amdhunter
Originally posted by: Aberforth
Brace yourself for impact. Return your seat to the upright position and lower your head to your knees or rest it on the seat in front of you. This will ensure that your neck snaps and you'll have a quick painless death.

Put your hands behind your head, but do not lace your fingers. Keep your elbows to the side of your head, but not over knees.

Fixed.

Proof?

Mythbusters proved against it.

http://kwc.org/mythbusters/200...iller_brace_posit.html

Myth: The reason that airlines tell you to get into the brace position is because it increases your chance of dying -- it is cheaper to pay out for death than injury.

Brace position was safer than sitting upright. As for the seats, the flight attendant seat safest, followed by first class, then economy.

According to the FAA guy, using the brace position is 3 times safer than sitting upright.

Busted
 

Fritzo

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Jan 3, 2001
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They forgot "be sure to jump up in the air the second before the plane hits the ground".

This is also how you survive falling elevators.
 

Red Squirrel

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Originally posted by: Fritzo
They forgot "be sure to jump up in the air the second before the plane hits the ground".

This is also how you survive falling elevators.

I've always wondered if that's true. Like if you are on any object falling and you jump very last minute, would you actually survive? And would you even be able to jump? Maybe there's just too much force at that point.

I've never been on a plane, but I actually catch myself reading safety instructions on emergency exits on buses and other places, guess it's just natural for me. In the middle of an emergency situation you don't have time to read that stuff, better know how to open it. With panic, something as simple as "pull and slide to the left" becomes much more complicated.
 

Jeff7

Lifer
Jan 4, 2001
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Originally posted by: RedSquirrel
Originally posted by: Fritzo
They forgot "be sure to jump up in the air the second before the plane hits the ground".

This is also how you survive falling elevators.

I've always wondered if that's true. Like if you are on any object falling and you jump very last minute, would you actually survive? And would you even be able to jump? Maybe there's just too much force at that point.

....
No, it's not - unless you can jump upward with exceptional speed at just the right millisecond.

1) You'd need to jump upward at about he same speed that the elevator is falling, which is likely to be pretty goddamn fast, especially compared to how slow we move.

2) If you jumped too soon, you'd slam into the elevator's ceiling.

And of course, if your legs were capable of propelling you upward at that speed, within a time window small enough to avoid hitting the ceiling of the elevator, you'd probably still sustain severe injuries from the acceleration generated by your legs.

For what it's worth, Mythbusters did an episode on this. Things external to the elevator are what's more likely to save you. In one case they cited where someone survived an elevator fall, the elevator cable coiled up beneath the falling carriage, and acted as a spring. She was still quite injured, but the cable reduced the severity of the impact.

 

Number1

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Feb 24, 2006
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Women and children FIRST! It would be unmanly to selfishly save yourself knowing poor helpless members of the weaker sex are left behind.
Disregard the OP's advise and do the manly thing. Die in the crash.
 

MotionMan

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Jan 11, 2006
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Originally posted by: RedSquirrel
I've never been on a plane

Really?!?

How old are you?

Is there a particular reason you have never been on a plane?

MotionMan

 

2Xtreme21

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Jun 13, 2004
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Originally posted by: RedSquirrel
Originally posted by: Fritzo
They forgot "be sure to jump up in the air the second before the plane hits the ground".

This is also how you survive falling elevators.

I've always wondered if that's true. Like if you are on any object falling and you jump very last minute, would you actually survive? And would you even be able to jump? Maybe there's just too much force at that point.

No. Let's say the elevator was falling at 100mph. Therefore, everything INSIDE the elevator is also falling at 100mph. Your jump would do nothing to prevent the splat as is there really a difference from hitting the ground at 100mph vs. 98mph?
 

MotionMan

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Jan 11, 2006
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Originally posted by: Aberforth
I'm sure most people here would want to survive a plane crash if it happens...I hope you guys find it helpful.

Make a plan. When you board a plane, get in tune with your environment. Visibility will be reduced in a smoke-filled cabin, so count the number of rows between you and the two nearest exits.

I do this. However, I do it everywhere. When I go to sit down in a public place, I pick a spot that allows for easy exit in case a gunman attacks. This is especially true in fast food restaurants, I think San Ysidro McDonald's massacre scarred me for life.

Always listen to the pre-flight safety briefing and study the seat-back safety card.

I always read the card, but I rarely listen to the schpeal.

If you're sitting in an exit row, study the door and make sure you know how to open it. Cabin crew will not order you to operate the exit, so make sure you have confidence to take control in an accident.

Check.

Dress properly. You will need to be able to stay warm if you survive a crash so wear long sleeves and trousers and avoid wearing high heels as these must be removed before evacuating via an emergency slide.

I am usually in either a suit because I am traveling just for the day for work, or I am wearing a t-shirt and jeans/shorts. I find it amazing how many women wear stuff that look great, but will get them killed trying to exit the plane.

Keep your seatbelt securely fastened. But also remember how it unfastens.

"It has been found that people who have survived emergency landings frantically search for where they expect the seatbelt to fasten [on the hip as in a car]," says Andy Clubb, BA Safety Course Director. "You often find bruising and cuts in that area," he added.

I keep mine fastened. I never thought of the seatbelt release issue. Another thing for me to worry about.

Jump. When it's time to leave the aircraft, exit will be by slide. Jump feet-first, arms folded across chest and lean forward.
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And if you hesitate, Clubb warns, a member of cabin crew is likely to push you

If I am behind you, it won't be the crew that pushes you and I will not be waiting for you to hesitate. ;)

MotionMan
 

MotionMan

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Jan 11, 2006
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Originally posted by: 2Xtreme21
Originally posted by: RedSquirrel
Originally posted by: Fritzo
They forgot "be sure to jump up in the air the second before the plane hits the ground".

This is also how you survive falling elevators.

I've always wondered if that's true. Like if you are on any object falling and you jump very last minute, would you actually survive? And would you even be able to jump? Maybe there's just too much force at that point.

No. Let's say the elevator was falling at 100mph. Therefore, everything INSIDE the elevator is also falling at 100mph. Your jump would do nothing to prevent the splat as is there really a difference from hitting the ground at 100mph vs. 98mph?

But will the fly hit the windshield?

MotionMan
 

Red Squirrel

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May 24, 2003
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Originally posted by: MotionMan
Originally posted by: RedSquirrel
I've never been on a plane

Really?!?

How old are you?

Is there a particular reason you have never been on a plane?

MotionMan

Very expensive. We've always driven to our destinations. I'm 22. I've always wanted to go on one though. I enjoy being high, in a non druggie way. Been in the CN tower a few times and other such towers and really liked it. Some people get super scared of heights but not me. So I'm sure I'd enjoy going in a plane. I came VERY close to going on a helicopter ride when I was a kid, but it was like 200 bucks to go. Today if I had that chance I'd actually pay up just for the experience.

The furthest I've been was to maybe Toronto/Montreal. Been in the states once on a bus tour to go see Nascar in Michigan. That's the furthest I've been in my life. It's great to go to places where it's actually hot. :D
 

Red Squirrel

No Lifer
May 24, 2003
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Originally posted by: 2Xtreme21
Originally posted by: RedSquirrel
Originally posted by: Fritzo
They forgot "be sure to jump up in the air the second before the plane hits the ground".

This is also how you survive falling elevators.

I've always wondered if that's true. Like if you are on any object falling and you jump very last minute, would you actually survive? And would you even be able to jump? Maybe there's just too much force at that point.

No. Let's say the elevator was falling at 100mph. Therefore, everything INSIDE the elevator is also falling at 100mph. Your jump would do nothing to prevent the splat as is there really a difference from hitting the ground at 100mph vs. 98mph?

That's a good point. So only way you'll actually survive is if you can somehow jump at the same speed the elevator is going, that way you will be "floating" when it hits the ground.

This is also not taking into account the fact that you'd get smacked around by the debris as it lands. An elevator being the worse because of the roof.

I can somehow picture mythbusters right now. "Don't try this at home" while cutting the cable.
 

BeauJangles

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Aug 26, 2001
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Originally posted by: RedSquirrel
Originally posted by: Fritzo
They forgot "be sure to jump up in the air the second before the plane hits the ground".

This is also how you survive falling elevators.

I've always wondered if that's true. Like if you are on any object falling and you jump very last minute, would you actually survive? And would you even be able to jump? Maybe there's just too much force at that point.

I've never been on a plane, but I actually catch myself reading safety instructions on emergency exits on buses and other places, guess it's just natural for me. In the middle of an emergency situation you don't have time to read that stuff, better know how to open it. With panic, something as simple as "pull and slide to the left" becomes much more complicated.

No. You wouldn't survive by jumping.

The article is also retarded, like 99% of the stuff published by CNN these days. Your chances of surviving a plane crash are much more dependent on things like: what you are hitting, the skill of the pilot, and dumb luck.