how to recog. ES cpu?

[subzer0]

How can i recognize an ES processor with certainty?

If it has no "Intel Confidential" label, is it a standard processor for certain?

I saw counterfeit box packages on the net, and the differences from genuine ones, but it could be corrected until now, so is the non-"Intel confidential" label sure enough indicator that it is standard cpu?

Thanks

 

[Quiksilver]

http://www.techarp.com/showart....aspx?artno=407&pgno=3

 

[subzer0]

Thanks for the reply.

I have read this article before, but the question is, whether reviewing a cpu label (to not be Intel Confidential) is enough to be sure it's a standard model?

The author also recommends cpu-z validation, but why is that needed if the label is not "Intel Confidential" (and so on, and so on) ? Also i cannot validate the cpu before purchasing it.

So how do i know if it is ES before i buy it?

 

[Markfw]

Use CPU-Z after getting it. If its an ES, it will have "(ES)" at the end of the ID string. If thats not what you want, return it if he promised it wasn;t.

 

[Gillbot]

It says Intel Confidential on the IHS and the typical code lettering will be 4 characters. Also, CPU-z will ID it as the CPU with an (ES) string on the end.

 

[Duvie]

Agreed the IHS should say it immediately....The cpu_z is an effective tool if it is already installed in a motherboard with a HSF on it....


I have no problem buying an ES, but in my opinion you should not pay anywhere near retail price for them.....

1) They HAVE NO WARRANTY...if it dies you are SOL....
2) they may be first generation stepping and depending on current retail stepping may not be that great of an ocer. these are not cherry picked reviewer chips always....
3) The unlock multiplier is nice but often times the ES chips I have found are extreme chips anyways...so no advantage...

I bought my QX6700ES from a reviewer for 50% of it retail cost....2 years plus later still working great at 3.466ghz...

I wouldn't pay more then 50-70% retail value...

 

[Quiksilver]

It probably should be mentioned, that if you are asking how can you tell if it's an ES or not by looking at the box; well. I cannot see an ES chip being in a box nor see a way to tell.

 

[Duvie]

Originally posted by: Quiksilver
It probably should be mentioned, that if you are asking how can you tell if it's an ES or not by looking at the box; well. I cannot see an ES chip being in a box nor see a way to tell.

good point...unless it is a deliberate attempt to defraud someone.....Intel deosn't make this chips to ever be sold in the marketplace...so there would be no packaging....

 

[aigomorla]

retail is always stamped like so:

http://i125.photobucket.com/al...aigomorla/IMG_0884.jpg

ES's always have the words intel confidental like so:

http://i125.photobucket.com/al...morla/MyGainestown.jpg

ES's also have CPU-Z like so:

http://i125.photobucket.com/al.../aigomorla/Capture.jpg

ES's do not obey the same rules in overclocking. I cant stress that. Some of them will, others wont.

In most cases, ES's are more leaky with voltage then retail.

On average ES's do overclock a tad better, however, they come at a very high heat package.
The best chip is a cherry retail, and not a cherry ES.

Of course cherry retails are harder to come by.

 

[subzer0]

Thanks a lot for all the replies, especially to aigomorla for provided pictures.

 

[Duvie]

Originally posted by: subzer0
Thanks a lot for all the replies, especially to aigomorla for provided pictures.

Yeah he is a show-off!!!! :roll: