How to obtain salvation through Jesus

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Ruptga

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Why would you, as a little (?) child, as you say, be at some point so scared and frightened that you are convinced you need "salvation" and must confess all your sins to god/jesus? It sounds to me like you were scared and feared for your life/soul....AS A LITTLE CHILD.... and the only explanation I have is that someone traumatized you and made you believe this being the case. This is not "normal" by a long-shot, not for a little kid.
Do you THINK that god intended this to be...that even immature children need to recognize and confess their sins (whatever they are)? In how far would this make sense?

Thinking about what drove you wanting "to obtain salvation" as a little child, to me, is the actual interesting part here...

I realize that's at least a little rhetorical, but it's actually pretty straightforward. Little kids believe whatever they're taught, unless they're constantly and obviously lied to, and sometimes still even then.

When a kid constantly hears about powerful lifechanging conversions and how their parents' religion is the most important thing ever, it's only a matter of time. Even kids raised in the church that have never known anything else will at one point or another have a "conversion" event like they've always heard about, they'll get serious and optionally talk with a parent or religious leader before praying something probably adlibbed but still cliche, something about consciously accepting Jesus into their heart, again even though they have no idea what life outside the bubble they're pledging themself to is like. That's what it's like to grow up evangelical; you've no life experience of your own because you're seven, so you just do the best with what you're told and what you're told is to be a protaganist in a Chick tract.
 

PowerEngineer

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I realized this as a child without anyone to help me so I knelt beside a tree by myself and asked God to forgive me of my sins and save me. When you do this with a genuine intention God will hear you and respond to you personally. You will know it beyond a shadow of a doubt as you and he begin to interact on a personal level.

As scary as organized religions are, I find this kind of "personal" religion in which a single person claims to have established a privileged connection to god even scarier. The range of your possible actions knows no societal bounds once you are "beyond a shadow of a doubt" that your thoughts are interweaved with responses (commands) from your god. And there are likely millions of individuals in this world today that believe that the voice in their heads is that of their personal god. We don't have an emoticon to show how scary this is!
 

sdifox

No Lifer
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the only way to obtain salvation through Jesus is to send me 10 dollars a month til The Rupture.
 

Puffnstuff

Lifer
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the only way to obtain salvation through Jesus is to send me 10 dollars a month til The Rupture.
Aiming low aren't we? Obviously you didn't attend the word of faith lets fleece them for the big bucks seminar. Even Oral Roberts only wanted 10 million dollars. Jesse Duplantis is rolling around in a multimillion dollar private jet to spread the gospel of prosperity along with Kenneth Copeland and the other tv preachers. Hey with a name like Creflo Dollar you kind of know what to expect.
Well, shit. Then why did I buy that smoker?
Cook a nice meal with it and post pics.
 

John Connor

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LOL! Rapping, rapping at my chamber door. What did appear, but a Jahovaswitniss selling whore.
 

sdifox

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Aiming low aren't we? Obviously you didn't attend the word of faith lets fleece them for the big bucks seminar. Even Oral Roberts only wanted 10 million dollars. Jesse Duplantis is rolling around in a multimillion dollar private jet to spread the gospel of prosperity along with Kenneth Copeland and the other tv preachers. Hey with a name like Creflo Dollar you kind of know what to expect.

Cook a nice meal with it and post pics.
Aiming low aren't we? Obviously you didn't attend the word of faith lets fleece them for the big bucks seminar. Even Oral Roberts only wanted 10 million dollars. Jesse Duplantis is rolling around in a multimillion dollar private jet to spread the gospel of prosperity along with Kenneth Copeland and the other tv preachers. Hey with a name like Creflo Dollar you kind of know what to expect.

Cook a nice meal with it and post pics.

Understand crowd sourcing and you'll see subscription model is the way to go.
 

BurnItDwn

Lifer
Oct 10, 1999
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I want much salvation.
It's too expensive to pay mortgage and bills. I want salvation on my mortgage and bills. How do this?
 

ImpulsE69

Lifer
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Did we all find Jesus yet? Seems like a simple 3 step program.

1. Look for Jesus
2. Find Jesus
3. ???
4. Profit!
 

Ruptga

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Aug 3, 2006
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Did we all find Jesus yet? Seems like a simple 3 step program.

1. Look for Jesus
2. Find Jesus
3. ???
4. Profit!

Last time I saw that guy was high school. I'm sure he's still there since his family was too poor for him to have escaped that shitty little town, and that really sucks because the whole town is on its way to a "restructuring".
 

Puffnstuff

Lifer
Mar 9, 2005
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The mantra of the word of faith preachers is already covered.

Matthew 6:24
No one can serve two masters; for either he will hate the one and love the other, or else he will be loyal to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve God and mammon.

1. Timothy 6:10
For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evil, for which some have strayed from the faith in their greediness, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows.
 
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Cerpin Taxt

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Oh I don't love money. I just need it to spread the good word of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. So send me lots of that evil money. You don't want it anyway.
 

child of wonder

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Since money is evil, the best thing you can do is send it to me and rid yourself of the green scourge!
 

rumpleforeskin

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The mantra of the word of faith preachers is already covered.

Matthew 6:24
No one can serve two masters; for either he will hate the one and love the other, or else he will be loyal to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve God and mammon.

Well money feeds people, you can't eat prayers.

1. Timothy 6:10
For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evil, for which some have strayed from the faith in their greediness, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows.

and yet Ecclesiastes+10:19 states "money is the answer for everything."
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Ecclesiastes+10:19
 

BurnItDwn

Lifer
Oct 10, 1999
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Im not paying to Jesus, screw that. My grandma pays enough to Jesus with the damn putting money in the bowl so that the preacher guy can have his beer money. Also, the preacher guy seriously must drink a lot of beer because he gets a shitton of beer money from all the people.

If I take Faith, then Stephanie will be VERY VERY mad at me, she told me no other women. Im not aware of any ways to take a second wive without upsetting the first one? And how will that work exactly?

Im clearly confused.

Stop paying bills. Pray to Jesus. Have faith.
It'll totally work.
 

Ruptga

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If I take Faith, then Stephanie will be VERY VERY mad at me, she told me no other women. Im not aware of any ways to take a second wive without upsetting the first one? And how will that work exactly?

Im clearly confused.

The trick is to get a first wife that wants a girlfriend too. It looks like you already made a mistake there.
 

sandorski

No Lifer
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