Question How to make an optical drive last as long as possible?

mikeymikec

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Partly because of the feedback from this thread I created and partly because of my suppliers' stock of optical drives drying up completely for a good long while (at least 3 weeks), I considered the possibility that maybe the manufacture / supply of optical drives is coming to an end much sooner than I thought. Given that I still want to be able to read my BR collection on my computer and also that my DVD drive (my PC has 1x BR-RW and 1x DVDRW internal drives) has been showing signs of giving out (it's getting fussier with discs, I guess it's probably 10 years old), I decided to order a BR-RW drive to forestall the day of potentially never being able to read such discs again in my computer.

I'm not entirely sure what to do with this drive when it arrives because on one hand I need to make sure it works so some testing will be required (probably more testing than just plugging it in and reading a disc), and on the other hand I want the drive to last as long as possible. Any suggestions?
 

dlerious

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Rip the discs and store the files on an external drive or NAS for watching, to cut down on wear of optical drives.
 
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mikeymikec

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Rip the discs and store the files on an external drive or NAS for watching, to cut down on wear of optical drives.
My current collection is already done, it's just a case of which DVDs I supersede with BR/4K versions in future, and any additional films I get.
 

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My current collection is already done, it's just a case of which DVDs I supersede with BR/4K versions in future, and any additional films I get.
Honestly? Either they've already stopped making them, or they'll be killing them off very soon. I'd get a couple of spare units and stash them somewhere. I have a NIB LG and a NIB relabeled ASUS just in case my primary unit dies. Oh, and flash them with Libredrive firmware when you get them, then stash 'em.
 

mikeymikec

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Honestly? Either they've already stopped making them, or they'll be killing them off very soon. I'd get a couple of spare units and stash them somewhere. I have a NIB LG and a NIB relabeled ASUS just in case my primary unit dies. Oh, and flash them with Libredrive firmware when you get them, then stash 'em.

My current drive already has Libredrive firmware, oddly enough the new drive is the same model as my current drive but already has BDXL support (my reason for updating the first drive).

NIB?
 

mikeymikec

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NIB=New In Box.
This is part of my quandary. Does a piece of electronics last longer not being used (and presumably well-packaged from the elements, or would I be better off having both drives in my computer and attempt to split the duty of disc handling 50/50 between them?

I'm leaning towards the latter as I'm going to have to test this drive sooner rather than later. I don't often open my computer and once I've put that drive in there, it's probably spending a while in there :)
 
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This is part of my quandary. Does a piece of electronics last longer not being used (and presumably well-packaged from the elements, or would I be better off having both drives in my computer and attempt to split the duty of disc handling 50/50 between them?

I'm leaning towards the latter as I'm going to have to test this drive sooner rather than later. I don't often open my computer and once I've put that drive in there, it's probably spending a while in there :)
It all depends on the component, and you're overthinking this. If a component is solid-state, then usage generally doesn't wear it out. In practice, I've found optical disc drives about as reliable as spinning rust (which is to say, not highly reliable long-term).

There probably isn't enough data to say whether an optical drive put away in cold storage can reliably last decades. My guess is that power cycles (i.e. a cold boot) doesn't affect durability much. If you're installing a (2nd) optical drive inside a desktop PC, just leave it connected. Probably do not leave a disc in the tray 24/7.

I'm a bit of a hoarder, so I've ended up with 3 DVD burners: 2 externals and one unopened SATA (I believe it's new enough not to be ATAPI, but never bothered to check). I use the slimline external drive once or twice a year, on average. If you stumble upon a "closeout" deal on another drive, just get a spare to cover you for the next two decades. I wouldn't "invest" a lot in that, but the reason I ended up with 3 DVD burners I don't even need is that they were about $10 each.
 
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I have an ASUS external BL-RW Optical which has lasted me many many years.
It uses the big 5 1/4 size optical drive, which i feel are much more reliable, and durable then the thin usb ones.

But seeing how your probably using those as well, i guess there is no solution.
Motors wear out, its a gamble on when.
We have no good testing on opticals anymore because no one uses them.
Like i remember Plextor was the brand all the L33t H4X0rZ used because they were that durable, while LiteOn (ASUS rebranded these guys) was the Brand most people would go to, then it was LG.
 

manly

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IIRC NEC was the hotness around 2002.

Earlier today, there was a $5 slimline DVD writer on Amazon and I briefly considered adding it to my collection lol.
 

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I have found the slimline DVD drives are not that reliable. I have had 2 fail in my HP z840 workstation and another one is acting up. They are old drives so not surprised. I have 2 spares but might pickup a few for since they are cheap. I have a pile of DVD drives from various retired builds. I have some old IDE drives but I tried a few IDE controllers but couldn't get them to work.
 

mikeymikec

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In stark contrast, I have a slimline external Lite-ON DVD-RW drive that I think I bought in around 2005 for a good £80 (IIRC) which last I checked was still going strong :) TBF I haven't used it a great deal, I also set it to be a Region 1 drive so I could read the occasional American DVD I've bought.
 
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Samsung external dual layer burner that used two USB 2.0 connectors... thing was great. Many many miles on it.
 

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I'm not entirely sure what to do with this drive when it arrives because on one hand I need to make sure it works so some testing will be required (probably more testing than just plugging it in and reading a disc), and on the other hand I want the drive to last as long as possible. Any suggestions?

Last as long as possible could mean that it reads as many discs as possible, or that you store it in optimal conditions so that it reads as few discs as possible, but remains viable for reading discs as many years into the future as possible.

For the former, don't put in discs that seem imbalanced, whether from the factory or some sticker on them or whatever, that make it vibrate or a lot of noise/wear on the mechanism. Don't situate it near hot running (passively cooled w/o air intake in front of them) HDD(s) as this slight heat difference isn't much but it's not going to help.

Manage dust levels in the room and in the PC itself, don't have a negatively pressurized PC case so it is drawing dusty air into the drive, nor positively pressurized without dust filter in place so it isn't blowing dusty air out of the optical drive.

For the later to increase # years viability, pack it away in a low humidity, cool temperature environment, sealed in opaque packaging so it does not get exposed to an infinite amount of oxygen, UV, or dust. It might be nearly in this state in the retail packaging but it might only have a sticker seal holding the bag flap down instead of completely air-tight seal. Some silica gel packets in the bag to soak up moisture could help if not in a very dry environment when sealed shut.

The mechanical portions of the drive are not such that they need "exercised" over time. Wear from use is still wear, but if you never use it then there was no point having it. Worse would be keeping it in a PC that is running a lot of hours but then not using that drive, so it suffers the environmental aging without serving any purpose. Use it or pack it for long term storage.

EEPROM firmware is another long term factor but i don't have sufficient data to tell you whether it's going to be closer to 15 years retention or 100 years. Someone with a mission critical need for a device's firmware might reflash that firmware every decade or so. Once a device loses the firmware it is a much more laborious process with a learning curve and equipment needed to reflash it, rather than just running a firmware update app on the host PC/system. You'd also want to make sure a firmware flasher app download contains the actual firmware as most do, not pulling it from a cloud server when you run that app, since clouds don't exist *forever*.

Some people might pursue a different strategy for a BR video collection backup and use, get what they can online, already ripped and re-encoded to a reasonable bit rate for manageable file size storage. Depending on the specifics of doing so, that may or may not be legal in any particular country.
 
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FelixDeCat

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I replaced my optical drive late last year after 10 years of service. But thats not what concerns me, its the problem with disc fading. I bought DVD from the early 1990s and it is almost translucent. Was only able to make it work once. Now it skips too much.