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[Burninator]

I just read an article in Pop Sci talking about RIAA and private networks that they cannot get into. They mentioned a new program called WASTE (list of mirror sites). The program lets you set up a personal, private p2p network over the internet for space up to 50 users. This would be perfect for a group of friends or colleagues that share files. The network supports instant messaging, group chat and file sharing.

On the same matter, Microsoft is developing a Windows XP-based program called ThreeDegrees that has alot of the same similarites to WASTE. In ThreeDegrees you can set up small private networks for up to 10 people to exchange instant messages, animations, pictures and music. In its BETA release, it allowed members to communicate by dragging and dropping images onto the group's icon. The images would immediatly pop-up on the screens of all the group members, and dropped music files are added directly to their playlists.

So in the end, WASTE is like the old internet, wild and free, but not to user friendly. ThreeDegrees is clean, shiny and easy to use.

If you are a eager file sharer or just like to chat with your own personal friends on a private network, this would be perfect for you. Outside sources have no way of knowing what is happening on your network or what kinds of things are being said. So if you were scared by the recent RIAA subpeonas then you might want to look into the following programs. ThreeDegrees is only available for Windows XP OS.

 

[Burninator]

all this was taken from a Pop Sci mag and they arent my exact views on the topic. So dont flame me or get pissed. I just thought people would like to know.

 

[bob4432]

thanks for the info. my view is that if you know where to look, you can find anything

 

[bob4432]

the riaa, or any agency for that matter, will never be able to win. they have an entire world of very good programmers that they are up against. they will always lose.

would you ever buy a product from a organization that has threatened and is in the process of suing people? are they going to come after me because i have a dual tape deck, or 2 vcrs?

i would rather listen to music off the radio than to help them with money to pay overpriced lawyers to try to sue us...

flame away if you desire...

 

[Burninator]

remember copying CD's and VCR tapes is legal. as long as you dont make people pay to view or see the content. (i believe thats how it works.) and that you use it for your own backups and your own viewing.

i think its just no making a profit off of your copy

 

[Tab]

Originally posted by: bob4432
the riaa, or any agency for that matter, will never be able to win. they have an entire world of very good programmers that they are up against. they will always lose.

would you ever buy a product from a organization that has threatened and is in the process of suing people? are they going to come after me because i have a dual tape deck, or 2 vcrs?

i would rather listen to music off the radio than to help them with money to pay overpriced lawyers to try to sue us...

flame away if you desire...

They are sueing theives, thats a bad thing?

 

[magomago]

WindowsXP? Do you also include 2kpro?

 

[MercenaryForHire]

Welcome to six months ago.

- M4H

 

[bob4432]

Originally posted by: Tabb

Originally posted by: bob4432
the riaa, or any agency for that matter, will never be able to win. they have an entire world of very good programmers that they are up against. they will always lose.

would you ever buy a product from a organization that has threatened and is in the process of suing people? are they going to come after me because i have a dual tape deck, or 2 vcrs?

i would rather listen to music off the radio than to help them with money to pay overpriced lawyers to try to sue us...

flame away if you desire...

They are sueing theives, thats a bad thing?

thieves, yes some are, but some are just testing out music. have you ever d/l music before?

 

[SilentZero]

The radio is my new best friend. No more buying CD's for me!

 

[OverVolt]

Originally posted by: Tabb

Originally posted by: bob4432
the riaa, or any agency for that matter, will never be able to win. they have an entire world of very good programmers that they are up against. they will always lose.

would you ever buy a product from a organization that has threatened and is in the process of suing people? are they going to come after me because i have a dual tape deck, or 2 vcrs?

i would rather listen to music off the radio than to help them with money to pay overpriced lawyers to try to sue us...

flame away if you desire...

They are sueing theives, thats a bad thing?

Why do you call file sharers theives? What are they stealing? The RIAA's gone overboard with sueing the public. It's like Intel or AMD sueing it's customers for OC'ing so it scares people into paying for a 3.2GhzP4 or a 3200+ to make more money.

You think OC'ers are theives too?

Your too naive, anything the RIAA or any other company does for that matter is to make more money, so who's the worst theif, the RIAA taking 2k from a 12yr old, or a file sharer?

 

[Crypticburn]

Originally posted by: OverVolt

Why do you call file sharers theives? What are they stealing? The RIAA's gone overboard with sueing the public. It's like Intel or AMD sueing it's customers for OC'ing so it scares people into paying for a 3.2GhzP4 or a 3200+ to make more money.

You think OC'ers are theives too?

Your too naive, anything the RIAA or any other company does for that matter is to make more money, so who's the worst theif, the RIAA taking 2k from a 12yr old, or a file sharer?

1) Downloading music (that you have not paid for) is nothing like altering a piece of hardware YOU PURCHASED. Intel and AMD will not sue you for overclocking, but they will void your warranty if they find out.

2) You're too naive. The RIAA is suing someone who was offering copyrighted material. She happened to be 12 years old. Her parents are responsible for her actions.

On another note:

I hate the RIAA. Many/most of their practices (e.g. price setting) are illegal and need to be fixed. Their mindset on some issues (hacking public computers) is as ignorant as the above poster.

Crypticburn

 

[BFG10K]

Even plain old NTFS encryption should do the trick since they'd never be able to get into the files.

What are they stealing?

Are they paying for their music? Did the owners of the music give to it to them for free?

Neither? In that case they have absolutely no right to listen to the music and it's no different to the likes of pirating software.

 

[EeyoreX]

I hate the RIAA. Many/most of their practices (e.g. price setting) are illegal and need to be fixed. Their mindset on some issues (hacking public computers) is as ignorant ....

As much as I also hate the RIAA, AFAIK, it was not them that wanted to hack people's computers. It's far worse than the RIAA wanting to do this. This was suggested by a US Senator. Fritz Hollings, IIRC.

If you are a eager file sharer or just like to chat with your own personal friends on a private network, this would be perfect for you. Outside sources have no way of knowing what is happening on your network or what kinds of things are being said.

"Outside sources" will always, with enough effort and work, be able to get into this type of scheme. If it operates over the internet, anyone can find a way to get access. At least to spy. I think it is basic human nature that thwarts any attempt to hide things. Whatever one person/group feels the need or desire to hide, there is at least one other person/group that wants to uncover it. If it is worth hiding, it must be something good/worthwile, right?

 

[CQuinn]

As much as I also hate the RIAA, AFAIK, it was not them that wanted to hack people's computers. It's far worse than the RIAA wanting to do this. This was suggested by a US Senator. Fritz Hollings, IIRC.

And what lobbying group(s) do you think were behind getting that suggestion? This is the same Fritz Hollings
who is sometimes known as the "Senator from Disney" because of his eagerness to support the interests of the motion picture and record industries and
their lobbying arms, the Motion Picture Association of America and the Record Industry Association of America.

They are sueing theives, thats a bad thing?

The way they are going about it; the animosity it is creating amongst truely innocent bystanders to the
whole debate; their lack of interest (for years) in actually taking advantage of the technology to make
their own profits before someone else (napster) came up with a way to bite them in the butt; and their
industries own history of price fixing, monopolization, shoddy products, abuse of artists, market manipulation,
an outdated business model, and outright lies... frankly doesn't grant the RIAA the moral, ethical, or legal
authority to become a law unto themselves in regard to file swappers.

I cannot say that they should not take a stand against indiscriminate file-swapping, but sueing
People who are alleged with copyright violation, and branding them as thieves without
due process or the involvment of any legitamate law enforcement agencies, does not IMO make it a good thing.

 

[Burninator]

WindowsXP? Do you also include 2kpro?

No sorry

 

[jfall]

Isn't this pretty much FTP, FTP can be a private server, give access to your friends or whoever you want, it can be private if need be. What's the difference really, some GUI, drag and drop and IM'ing