How to get rid of Reid and Pelosi?

retrospooty

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We all, dems and reps, libs and cons, can likely agree that Pelosi and Reid are positioned to cause serious damage to our country and economic recovery efforts. As a die hard liberal, even I cant stand them. Neither of them seem to have a clue about anything other than burning republicans, with a "haha, its our turn" mentality. They are partisaned politics at its absolute worst -- outside of this forum that is ;) -- .

But seriously, how do the we go about getting them out of thier chair positions. Does the house (and senate for Reid) have to vote them out? Or is it just the committee's they chair? Surely they wont just steps down, so what would it take?
 

Genx87

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Originally posted by: retrospooty
We all, dems and reps, libs and cons, can likely agree that Pelosi and Reid are positioned to cause serious damage to our country and economic recovery efforts. As a die hard liberal, even I cant stand them. Neither of them seem to have a clue about anything other than burning republicans, with a "haha, its our turn" mentality. They are partisaned politics at its absolute worst -- outside of this forum that is ;) -- .

But seriously, how do the we go about getting rid of them. Does the house (and senate for Reid) have to vote them out? Or is it just the committee's they chair? Surely they wont just steps down, so what would it take?

Contact your congressmen\women and demand they dont vote for those dimwits. And if they do let them know you wont vote for them in the next election. I dont see Pelosi ever losing in her district. I dont know about Reid, but I suspect he is equally safe.

I suspect if enough democrat senators get enough calls they could get nervous. Especially in the house. 2010 isnt far away.
 

shiner

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Obama needs to put the smack down on them and tell them to shape up or be forced out. I'm sure a wildly popular President with a mandate could make his case to the rests of the Democrats in the House and Senate to remove them from their seats of power if need be.
 

retrospooty

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Originally posted by: shinerburke
Obama needs to put the smack down on them and tell them to shape up or be forced out. I'm sure a wildly popular President with a mandate could make his case to the rests of the Democrats in the House and Senate to remove them from their seats of power if need be.

That would be great... and "change" but sadly, I dont see it happening =(
 

Drakkon

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Originally posted by: winnar111
Reid's up for re-election in 2010.
Yeah and here in NV the GOP is running ads against him already HOWEVER they have yet to field 1 qualified candidate to run against him. There is not one decent GOP member in NV that will be able to beat Reid because they have their heads so far up their asses that they can't field a candidate that can win in Reno and do well in Vegas.
 

Lemon law

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Its the democratic caucuses that elect them as Speaker of the house and Senate majority leader positions. If the dems get pissed at either Reid or Pelosi, they can remove them and replace them with someone else.

But there in lies the rub, while no given factions in the democratic party are thrilled with either one, both Reid and Pelosi have been good at building consensus within a rather diverse democratic party, somewhat a cat herding hat trick not to be minimized. And since no given coalition in the democratic party is angry at either Reid or Pelosi, do not look for them to get the boot any time soon.
 

QuantumPion

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Democrats use their power to jerrymander districts in their favor and give taxpayer money to their constituents. They will be in power forever (or until the country collapses). Get used to it.
 

Budmantom

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Originally posted by: retrospooty
We all, dems and reps, libs and cons, can likely agree that Pelosi and Reid are positioned to cause serious damage to our country and economic recovery efforts. As a die hard liberal, even I cant stand them. Neither of them seem to have a clue about anything other than burning republicans, with a "haha, its our turn" mentality. They are partisaned politics at its absolute worst -- outside of this forum that is ;) -- .

But seriously, how do the we go about getting them out of thier chair positions. Does the house (and senate for Reid) have to vote them out? Or is it just the committee's they chair? Surely they wont just steps down, so what would it take?

Don't foget Frank & Dudd and we will gladly give up McCain.
 

BoomerD

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Originally posted by: QuantumPion
Democrats use their power to jerrymander districts in their favor and give taxpayer money to their constituents. They will be in power forever (or until the country collapses). Get used to it.

ROFLMFAO!!

The Republicans have raised gerrymandering to a whole new level...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2003_Texas_redistricting

I don't know how you can point the finger at the Dems when the Repubs are so much better at it...
 

MotF Bane

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Originally posted by: QuantumPion
Democrats use their power to jerrymander districts in their favor and give taxpayer money to their constituents. They will be in power forever (or until the country collapses). Get used to it.

Fail.
 

Xavier434

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I am not certain how to get them out either beyond the typical campaign stuff with a new promising candidate, but I will say that I would love to see both of them gone too. I believe that both Pelosi and Reid only represent a minority within their own party these days. Not good.
 

BoomerD

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As a not-so-liberal Democrat, I don't care much for either Reid or Pelosi...but politics in this country being what it is, I don't look for either of them to go away anytime soon...unless, by some stroke of luck, they're voted out of office by their constituents.
 

MovingTarget

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I'm no fan of either candidate, however, I will point out that the scare tactics/hype surrounding them is pretty unwarranted. OMGPELOSIREIDSOCIALISM!!1ONE! seems to fly around a lot still. I do wish for the legislative branches and their dominating parties to switch to more centrist leaders than these two, but to be honest I'm not sure if it would make too much of a difference.
 

Xavier434

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I believe that replacing them with competent people that do a much better and modern job at representing the people would do this country greater good than any President could offer. The Pres has the the veto power and he also has influence during the legislation, but he does not hold every card in his hands either. We need a solid 3 branches of govt with solid people in all of them. A great Pres in absolutely necessary but it will never be enough if this country is to see its true potential.
 

BoomerD

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Originally posted by: Xavier434
I believe that replacing them with competent people that do a much better and modern job at representing the people would do this country greater good than any President could offer.

Unfortunately, IF such people exist...they aren't in Congress...nor could they ever be elected to positions of authority if they were...

Remember, it's not how you play the game that counts...it's whether you win or lose.
 

Xavier434

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Originally posted by: BoomerD
Unfortunately, IF such people exist...they aren't in Congress...nor could they ever be elected to positions of authority if they were...

Remember, it's not how you play the game that counts...it's whether you win or lose.

I know. :(

I don't think it is hopeless, but I understand it is really hard too.

I editted my post too btw.
 

CPA

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Frank needs to go to. That guys is a moron of unbelievable proportions.

He actually had the nerve to say on CNBC this morning "yes we are rewarding those who made mistakes." Hello you moron? What about those who didn't make a mistake? Why do you think it's okay to reward them? God, I hate that guy with every ounce of my being.
 

Xavier434

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Originally posted by: CPA
Frank needs to go to. That guys is a moron of unbelievable proportions.

He actually had the nerve to say on CNBC this morning "yes we are rewarding those who made mistakes." Hello you moron? What about those who didn't make a mistake? Why do you think it's okay to reward them? God, I hate that guy with every ounce of my being.

A lot of them are getting rewarded too. Just not all of them. Same with those who made mistakes. Not all of them will be getting rewarded either.

It is not 100% fair, but nothing ever is. I learned to accept that a long time ago.
 

fskimospy

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Originally posted by: QuantumPion
Democrats use their power to jerrymander districts in their favor and give taxpayer money to their constituents. They will be in power forever (or until the country collapses). Get used to it.

First of all, gerrymandering only works for House members, as Senate seats are statewide elections. Secondly, gerrymandering actually tends to lead to a net decrease in the safety of incumbents. So while you may have to get used to Nancy Pelosi being around for awhile, it's not because of gerrymandering. You might not even need to worry about Harry Reid much longer as his seat is quite vulnerable.

I don't really understand what everyone's problem with Pelosi is. Yes, she's unabashedly liberal. Who cares? I didn't see everyone freaking out when the House was running on the ultra right, is it because she is actually an influential speaker, unlike Hastert who let Tom DeLay run the House? The Speaker of the House is the second most powerful elected position in the US Government and Pelosi acts like it, Hastert didn't. I don't like Reid, but not because of his ideology... simply because he's not a very effective senate majority leader.
 

Harvey

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Originally posted by: retrospooty

But seriously, how do the we go about getting them out of thier chair positions.

You don't for at least two years or unless one or the other screws up on a legal or ethical issue that would force their own party to replace them.

Neither of them seem to have a clue about anything other than burning republicans, with a "haha, its our turn" mentality.

Considering what Republicans did to ruin the country for eight years, that's not a bad idea.
 

sactoking

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Originally posted by: Drakkon
Originally posted by: winnar111
Reid's up for re-election in 2010.
Yeah and here in NV the GOP is running ads against him already HOWEVER they have yet to field 1 qualified candidate to run against him. There is not one decent GOP member in NV that will be able to beat Reid because they have their heads so far up their asses that they can't field a candidate that can win in Reno and do well in Vegas.

Well, if you want, I will register as a republican and I can run against them.
 

retrospooty

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Originally posted by: Harvey
Originally posted by: retrospooty

But seriously, how do the we go about getting them out of thier chair positions.

You don't for at least two years or unless one or the other screws up on a legal or ethical issue that would force their own party to replace them.

Neither of them seem to have a clue about anything other than burning republicans, with a "haha, its our turn" mentality.

Considering what Republicans did to ruin the country for eight years, that's not a bad idea.

I understand the urge... believe me, but we are in a BIT of turmoil here, and we need leadership, not petty crap like they pull.
 

marincounty

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Republicans under Bush tried to reverse every law or policy passed by democrats in the last 60 years. And many of these laws were good laws.

It is time to reverse some of the damage done by Republicans.
 
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Originally posted by: marincounty
Republicans under Bush tried to reverse every law or policy passed by democrats in the last 60 years. And many of these laws were good laws.

It is time to reverse some of the damage done by Republicans.
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