How to get marijuana for the state of Nebraska?

[Vic]

LunarRay: there was a recent study that showed MJ + Opiates combined is a super-effective pain management tool, much better than either independently (or high dosages of opiates). Forgive me for not searching for a link at work

Cannabis has this medicinal use because THC mimics the neurotransmitter anandamide, which plays a function in the control of the brain's sensory filters, especially related to short-term memory. IOW, combined with opiates, THC can enable the brain to 'forget' pain before the conscious mind is even aware of it.

 

[cubeless]

Cannabis has this medicinal use because THC mimics the neurotransmitter anandamide, which plays a function in the control of the brain's sensory filters, especially related to short-term memory. IOW, combined with opiates, THC can enable the brain to 'forget' pain before the conscious mind is even aware of it.

but would the effect be realized by the concentration of thc in smoked pot? aren't they talking about dosages that make you forget about consciousness? lucid thought at the least?

 

[Vic]

but would the effect be realized by the concentration of thc in smoked pot? aren't they talking about dosages that make you forget about consciousness? lucid thought at the least?

I think the ideal for the medical/pharmaceutical industries is to isolate the desired effect in a patentable drug. The greater issue (for them) is that even the basic research required to discover this drug is more or less impossible as long as a cannabis remains Schedule I.

And the ideal would allow for complete consciousness. Anandamide plays a vital function in consciousness and lucid thought because counter-intuitive as it might sound, being able to filter or 'forget' unnecessary information is crucial to both (one reason why some pot smokers claim an increased ability to focus). So the goal is to create a drug where the ability to forget can be isolated to pain.

 

[Zorkorist]

Medical Maijuana has been passed in Colorado, and we are just a state over.

You should see the shitstorm it has raised now that dispensaries are opening up on every corner.

 

[Zorkorist]

Our City Council decided to tax the sales (don't yell about how it is a regressive tax!) is all their response has been so far.

 

[Double Trouble]

In California, a physician must certify that the patient meets the criteria as defined by law in order to get the yearly 'license' to use, grow and hold marijuana.
I presume those who wish to get high only (Stoners) are not inclined to go through that process since they already have the means to achieve that condition and probably won't meet the medical conditions.
I presume a Medical Doctor will not risk their license to practice medicine to enable a person to legally consume marijuana if their condition does not warrant it.

EDIT: For what its worth... I have witnessed a variety of positive affects on people with a variety of disease. I'm not too sure about the pain mitigation or masking.. cuz the folks I know (VA Hosp) also use a variety of meds for that but they've not sought to increase dose as the efficacy diminished or the pair ought to have increased over time consistent with the objective testing related to that.

I have no doubt that it has some medicinal functions, but I'm certain that if the product was made available in a form that did not make people high, there wouldn't be a bunch of people pushing it for medicinal use.

Also, yeah, it requires a medical doctor prescription, but my friends in CA told me you can go to just about any doctor for any reason and they have no problem prescribing it. A quick search on the web confirms that.

 

[Vic]

I have no doubt that it has some medicinal functions, but I'm certain that if the product was made available in a form that did not make people high, there wouldn't be a bunch of people pushing it for medicinal use.

Also, yeah, it requires a medical doctor prescription, but my friends in CA told me you can go to just about any doctor for any reason and they have no problem prescribing it. A quick search on the web confirms that.

Why do you care if some people want it to get high? What actual relevance does that even have to this argument? Marijuana has legitimate medicinal uses that can relieve pain and even save lives, but OH NO we can't allow that because *slurps beer* some people might abuse it to get high!

 

[LunarRay]

I have no doubt that it has some medicinal functions, but I'm certain that if the product was made available in a form that did not make people high, there wouldn't be a bunch of people pushing it for medicinal use.

Also, yeah, it requires a medical doctor prescription, but my friends in CA told me you can go to just about any doctor for any reason and they have no problem prescribing it. A quick search on the web confirms that.

Let me ask you this: IF you are certain of the 'medicinal functions' what does it matter about the side effects? Do you think medicine... chemicals... ingested are without effects not directly related to the beneficial aspects of the chemical/medicine?
I think the question ought to be whether or not a patient can benefit from this particular chemical. I think that is the question all physicians ask them selves when Rx'ing.
Booze is a chemical as is most everything. Sometimes the logic folks employ escapes me... which brings to mind the following..

A mother called into to the emergency room worried that her daughter had a problem... speaking to the physician she explained that her daughter had been eating ants... hearing this the physican said "not to worry, ants won't poison her" .. relieved the mom said.. "great but I was worried so I gave her Ant poison to kill the ants... ""Bring her in right away" said the physician...


A physician who issues a certification in violation of the law or the law's intent is the bad guy... as is the person seeking certification without legal standing to do so. Just like the kid trying to buy booze underage..

 

[cubeless]

Let me ask you this: IF you are certain of the 'medicinal functions' what does it matter about the side effects? Do you think medicine... chemicals... ingested are without effects not directly related to the beneficial aspects of the chemical/medicine?
I think the question ought to be whether or not a patient can benefit from this particular chemical. I think that is the question all physicians ask them selves when Rx'ing.
Booze is a chemical as is most everything. Sometimes the logic folks employ escapes me... which brings to mind the following..

A mother called into to the emergency room worried that her daughter had a problem... speaking to the physician she explained that her daughter had been eating ants... hearing this the physican said "not to worry, ants won't poison her" .. relieved the mom said.. "great but I was worried so I gave her Ant poison to kill the ants... ""Bring her in right away" said the physician...


A physician who issues a certification in violation of the law or the law's intent is the bad guy... as is the person seeking certification without legal standing to do so. Just like the kid trying to buy booze underage..

but back in the real world they ban drugs that help some people because they might hurt some people... so they won't let a terminal patient have something because it might give him heart disease in 10 years......

and look at the lawsuits (and the labels) on things... we live in a world where we need protected from the stupid...

the intoxication factor weighs heavily on drugmakers and regulators because anything that can be abused (either recreationally or 'unintentionally') will be...

 

[LunarRay]

but back in the real world they ban drugs that help some people because they might hurt some people... so they won't let a terminal patient have something because it might give him heart disease in 10 years......

and look at the lawsuits (and the labels) on things... we live in a world where we need protected from the stupid...

the intoxication factor weighs heavily on drugmakers and regulators because anything that can be abused (either recreationally or 'unintentionally') will be...

There is but one world! It is what we make of it and how we live with that decision.
I see this world as being limited to my ability to enjoy it. The world is as big or as little as I am allowed to expand it or however little others are able to constrict it. That is what you are saying, I think... Governments are trying to protect me and Businesses are trying to protect themselves... Each action that affects my world limits or expands it.

We need protection from those who'd seek to harm us, true. But, I don't think we need protection from ourselves. There in lies the balance. You can drink booze or what not until you explode and I'm fine with that but don't drive your car while under the influence and the same goes for the guy taking Oxycodone or Oxymorphone or Marijuana...
If a person is benefited by a particular chemical that may have severe side effects ten years down the road It most likely will be pulled except in the case of terminal patients... we will all die... the how is the issue.

I'm not sure I understand what difference 'intoxication' makes to the issue in any case. One person I know, a veteran, has an insidious disease and no matter what he did he couldn't keep food down... Marijuana enabled him to eat and keep it down... He put on probably 25 pounds so far... in six months...

In other words... Freedom.... Lock your door not mine...