How to determine which CPU on Intel ARK is fanless?

[virtuality]

For examle Celeron N3050 in the newly refreshed HP Stream 11 is fanless.

The same CPU in the Dell Inspiron 11 3000 2-in-1 is not fanless. I'm confused.

Anyways, I'm looking for a more affordable, smallish, fanless notebook. Well, more affordable than the notebooks they but Core M processors in. I am also perfectly fine with the power of a Celeron or modern Atom. USB 3 is nice to have. At least the revious version of Stream 11 (Celeron N2840) has been reviewed as pretty bad.

Is AMD not competitive in this sphere anymore? USB 3 is nice to have. I can even wait a few months.

 

[jpiniero]

Fan vs no fan is dependent on the manufacturer and not Intel.

 

[ShintaiDK]

Fan vs no fan is dependent on the manufacturer and not Intel.

Exactly. You can make a 95W CPU fanless for that matter.

 

[virtuality]

OK. It may be not an exact science, but there might be still a rule of thumb that you can see Atom, Celeron, Pentium and Core M as fanless, but never Core i3, i5, i7 in a notebook.

For examle Celeron N3050 in the newly refreshed HP Stream 11 is fanless.

The same CPU in the Dell Inspiron 11 3000 2-in-1 is not fanless.

In the above example or in general: is it worth going for the fanless or turboprop designs for the same CPU, most of the time?

Is AMD not competitive in this sphere anymore?

And this? Thanks.

 

[VirtualLarry]

Speaking from my experience with a fanless Compute Stick with a Z3735F Bay Trail-T Atom 22nm CPU, I would much rather have had a fan. It heats up and throttles badly, with extended CPU use. Only good for "Bursty" CPU loads, like web browsing.

 

[ShintaiDK]

Your MeeGo?

It all depends on the build. One can be plastic, the other aluminium casing etc.

 

[VirtualLarry]

Just saying, you may not want a fanless device, because it may throttle. OTOH, my HP Stream 7 tablet, also has a Z3735F, fanless, and it doesn't seem to throttle, at least, not with 10 minutes of Skype. So, indeed, it does depend on the implementation by the OEMs.

 

[virtuality]

I might still prefer a fanless desing (for light use), the only question is, how to determine which is the good OEM implementation?

I guess still fanless is the way to go in the future, as you can save on properly disassembling and cleaning the inside of the machine every year, as you are supposed to do with the turboprop designs.

 

[cbn]

I might still prefer a fanless desing (for light use), the only question is, how to determine which is the good OEM implementation?

The following website is an awesome resource:

http://www.fanlesstech.com/

 

[virtuality]

The following website is an awesome resource:

http://www.fanlesstech.com/

Yep. I'm familiar with it. It is mainly focused on desktop architectre (mini PCs) and my interest is in laptops. I also like its "sister site" http://liliputing.com/

 

[iSkylaker]

Yep. I'm familiar with it. It is mainly focused on desktop architectre (mini PCs) and my interest is in laptops. I also like its "sister site" http://liliputing.com/

Well if you have visited both, you must know pretty much all the fanless CPUs already out there.

I was looking for a fanless laptop as well. Because of a defective CPU fan, it was one of the cause I broke my laptop, never will buy a laptop with fans again. I ended up getting an Acer Aspire E 11 which is fanless, the Braswell ASUS EeeBook 202 I was waiting for is taking forever to be available.

 

[FanlessTech]

So nice, thanks for the support guys!

 

[Sweepr]

So nice, thanks for the support guys!

Thanks for the awesome Skylake leaks.

 

[FanlessTech]

Just saying, you may not want a fanless device, because it may throttle.

When fanlesss is done the right way there's no throttling though. Passive cooling shouldn't equal high temperatures.

 

[Magic Carpet]

I was looking for a fanless laptop as well. Because of a defective CPU fan, it was one of the cause I broke my laptop, never will buy a laptop with fans again. I ended up getting an Acer Aspire E 11 which is fanless, the Braswell ASUS EeeBook 202 I was waiting for is taking forever to be available.

Oh damn, this is even slower than my 2007 era T7600 based laptop. You know what, I'd rather have a fan if that's the price. I don't mind fans as long as they are quiet and replaceable, some designs are better than the others. On my particular laptop fan is off completely until CPU reaches 60c or so. Better to have some noise than throttling in low performance appliances, imo. Passive only makes sense when it's designed properly, but that would require more weight and surface area... so vendors just put a fan instead. My Surface RT was fully passive, that was nice, however it was unusable compared with the Pro model, that one had a nasty fan though. You can get it done right, but performance will always be compromised. The new VAIO tablet with an i7, has three fans for example but boy, it is faaaaast.

 

[FanlessTech]

Thanks for the awesome Skylake leaks.

You're welcome ^^

To stay on topic, fanless PCs are not about silence only. It's about reliability too. A no moving parts PC is also less prone to failure

 

[dark zero]

I might still prefer a fanless desing (for light use), the only question is, how to determine which is the good OEM implementation?

I guess still fanless is the way to go in the future, as you can save on properly disassembling and cleaning the inside of the machine every year, as you are supposed to do with the turboprop designs.

Nope... the true route is HEATSINKLess, like the first smartphones. even lighter than only Fanless

 

[iSkylaker]

Oh damn, this is even slower than my 2007 era T7600 based laptop. You know what, I'd rather have a fan if that's the price. I don't mind fans as long as they are quiet and replaceable, some designs are better than the others. On my particular laptop fan is off completely until CPU reaches 60c or so. Better to have some noise than throttling in low performance appliances, imo. Passive only makes sense when it's designed properly, but that would require more weight and surface area... so vendors just put a fan instead. My Surface RT was fully passive, that was nice, however it was unusable compared with the Pro model, that one had a nasty fan though. You can get it done right, but performance will always be compromised. The new VAIO tablet with an i7, has three fans for example but boy, it is faaaaast.

It might be but for web browsing, document writing and watching youtube I think is plenty, you might not be able to tell which one is faster . But compared to the old netbook I had this a lot faster. As far as thermal throttling goes I don't think I have experienced problems at all with this fanless one, my old netbook when the fans used to fail it used to horribly throttle to the point it was unresponsive until the fans start spinning normally, none of that happens with this one, it just works with no issues at all. It gets hot at the bottom though but not that much I use it on a table anyway.