How to connect this 32mb HDD to my PIII? :)

[Killbat]

I tried casually to use the 32mb drive from the trusty 8088 in this PentiumIII machine. It has its own controller card, but it looks to be a Seagate-only proprietary thing. I'm not sure. Well, here:
http://www.seagate.com/support/disc/specs/rll/st238r.html
I tried simply disabling my MB's IDE controllers. Then I tried putting the drive's settings into the IDE1 master configuration. The machine pretended the drive/controller didn't exist until I put the settings in. Then it had a HUGE delay after POST before it reported the master HDD fail. Any ideas on how to get this thing to work with a newer machine? It's got an 8 bit ISA controller card with WDC (Western Digital?) chips on it, and I think the part number is WD1002A.

 

[konichiwa]

One word:

WHY???

 

[tontod]

Hi,

You probably dont want to put that hd in your piii. I had a 120 meg hard drive that I put in my computer, a celeron 300a@450, and my computer was extremely slow, especially when trying to access that drive. Also, I couldnt install windows with it, the install would keep crashing with that drive in the computer.

 

[Killbat]

I don't care what effect it has. I just want to see it available in Windows2000.

konichiwa, for the same reason I set up Winamp on a 486. JUST BECAUSE

 

[Zorba]

Make sure that the card works (somehow ). I understand what you mean 'Just because" I know if I had one of those I'd do it just for the hell of it .

 

[Sir Fredrick]

I don't think I quite understand...why are you trying to use the controller card? Can't you just hook the drive up to the controller on your MB?

 

[StanTheMan]

Try to connect the drive to your onboard controller, and then from the bios detect the hard disk. If that doesn't work, prob you could enter the hd size, cilynder, and head manuallly just like in the olden days.

 

[Killbat]

No, no, you don't understand. This is not an IDE drive. It's from way back. It's using a type of interface I'm not familiar with; it has separate data/control cables.

 

[StanFL]

Wow, that is some ancient stuff. Those old hd's that were the precursor to IDE's were commonly called MFM drives I think (got an old Seagate 20 meg laying around here somewhere). You had to low level format them and manually assign heads/sectors/cylinders etc.

Uhhh, a quick search at ZD Net scrounged up this;

http://www.zdnet.com/zdhelp/stories/main/0,5594,906173,00.html

Good luck!

 

[Mem]

Killbat,No offense do yourself & the P3 a favour ditch the 32mb HD it`s not worth the hassle & go & buy a decent size harddrive, when you have the cash.

 

[Killbat]

I just Scandisked the drive after putting it back in the old Tandy. Seems there are errors in the FAT. I'm going to have to low-level nuke the thing AFTER I save some important files.
Thanks for the help StanFL, but as per usual, ZDnet is not much help.

[edit]Jeez, nobody understands. I HAVE a decent HDD. The hassle of setting up the 32mb drive is fun!

 

[mjquilly]

Killbat, I understand. I occasionally hack around w/ an old Apple IIe

 

[Mday]

any person would know it's a proprietary connection.

i would definitely not install it since it can cause problems, but it's controller is most likely ISA (hopefully not MCA or vesa), which means you have to change settings in your BIOS for REALLY, REALLY old ISA compability.

and the drivers would have to be loaded in autoexec.bat and config.sys

but due to the nature of the OS, win2k will NOT BE ABLE TO USE it because there are no win2k drivers for it. well, i am doubting there are win2k drivers.

remember, win2k is NT5 which is a 32bit os built from the ground up. IT IS NOT DOS, like win9xme.

 

[Killbat]

Eh, nevermind, it's toast anyway. If it didn't have all the errors on it, I would still be trying. Thanks anyway.

 

[Pennstate]

Kilbat's got some vintage porn

 

[Hyper99]

dont feel bad a few week ago
my 850 MB seagate was toasted as well
kept screwing me up
too many bad cluster, no file were retrievable had to throw it
in the trashcan.
a great loss that is but oh well
200 bucks bought it 3 years ago.
It run too hot, damn seagate.
very little use too!
this is sad :*< :<