How to connect soundcard+cdrom to the one IDE socket?

[theplanb]

I got this IDE cable.. it's got one connector on each end, and one on the middle. (as you all prolly know)
I want to connect both soundcard and cdrom on secondary ide channel socket.

Due to the problem of length of the cable, I can't connect both devices with one end to the cdrom, the middle one to the soundcard while keeping one end to the ide socket on the board. This is just simply impossible.. even with slightly longer cable, I wouldn't be able to do this.

So I thought.. 'why not put the middle connector into the board's ide socket while two ends connectors connected to each device.. that would work.."
But before I do something I don't know, I thought why not ask in the forum first before I fry my mobo..
So ... can I do this??

 

[MrWhiteUK]

You want to connect your soundcard to an IDE port?!

 

[theplanb]

uh.. there is this IDE connector pins on the soundcard.. (ISA)
So I thought.. oh boy, I didn't know I can connect it to the ide socket!
Is it a bad idea?

 

[compuwiz1]

That's old stuff. Probably best to get modern here. Those, if I remember correctly, the CDROM connected to the sound card, via an IDE cable, not to the motherboard. They took special drivers too, which may be hard to find today.

 

[theplanb]

I know it's old stuff.. so.. I just connect cdrom and soundcard?
There is no need to connect to the IDE socket?

 

[Hawkeye_(BEL)]

Erm, I still have such an old ISA SB16 card. It came with an IDE channel to put a cdrom on it. That was the time when mobo's didn't have them in abundance yet.

So, if you can, put the IDE cable on your motherboard, and leave the soundcard out. If you do put it on the soundcard, you shouldn't put it on the IDE channel of your motherboard anyway. Just remember that if you use the connector on your soundcard, everything will have to go through your ISA slot using PIO1 mode, which is terribly slow.

 

[Midnight Rambler]

Actually, is that even an IDE controller. I thought that Creative interface of theirs was proprietary ? That's one old card there. IIRC, they had a model with a SCSI C-ROM interface built in to the SB16 card too.

 

[Zach]

<< Actually, is that even an IDE controller. I thought that Creative interface of theirs was proprietary ? That's one old card there. IIRC, they had a model with a SCSI C-ROM interface built in to the SB16 card too. >>



I have an SB16 with like 3 connectors, all different.. they changed it around. The orignals were proprietary, and before IDE became defacto there was some interesting stuff.

 

[crypticlogin]

<< Actually, is that even an IDE controller. I thought that Creative interface of theirs was proprietary ? That's one old card there. IIRC, they had a model with a SCSI C-ROM interface built in to the SB16 card too. >>

I have an SB16 with like 3 connectors, all different.. they changed it around. The orignals were proprietary, and before IDE became defacto there was some interesting stuff.

I've forgotten about those. After digging around for my old SB AWE32, the three connectors were Mitsumi, Sony, and Creative/Panasonic. If I recall correctly, Creative released a separate SB for each of the above interfaces (plus the IDE). Ah, the days of a 2x running from the Panasonic...

 

[Hawkeye_(BEL)]

Heh, you guys got me curious. I waded through tons of manuals to find the one detailing the SB16. I must have one of the latest models, since the manual states that it's a standard IDE connector. However, I do remember hearing from a friend that there were indeed other models with proprietary IDE connectors.

 

[Zach]

I still use an old non-PNP SB16 with the three or four CDROM connectors. It's nearly a full size ISA card. I like it because it has Line Out and Speaker out.