How To Catch Online SEX PRedators the Easy WAY. Why aren't we doing it?

nanyangview

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From another post, someone tried to date a person over a online game who pretends that she is a 16year old girl. So if we want to get rid of these predators, why don't the FBI set up random locations, hire some volunteers or paid people to go to these online games with Girlish name and impersonate a girl and LUuuuuure all the predators to the trap?

That will do the online community some good rite?
 

fs5

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wow, you're a freakin' genius, I'm sure the FBI doesn't do that with chatrooms.
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FoBoT

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the local TV station did this and showed the pervs showing up to the fake house

a bunch of people are pissed off they were show on the local news trying to get 14 year old girls
linked

Over the past several nights, KCTV5 has shown you how shockingly easy it is for men to prey on children through the Internet. Now that we've exposed the problem, it's time for solutions, ways parents can make sure their children don't become victims. KCTV5 Chief Investigative Reporter Steve Chamraz has the final part of his investigation.
 

illusion88

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Originally posted by: nanyangview
From another post, someone tried to date a person over a online game who pretends that she is a 16year old girl. So if we want to get rid of these predators, why don't the FBI set up random locations, hire some volunteers or paid people to go to these online games with Girlish name and impersonate a girl and LUuuuuure all the predators to the trap?

That will do the online community some good rite?

Ive actually heard of this before. They cought some people using this. So, you are one step behind the FBI!!!!one
 

Kenny

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Originally posted by: FoBoT
the local TV station did this and showed the pervs showing up to the fake house

a bunch of people are pissed off they were show on the local news trying to get 14 year old girls
linked

Over the past several nights, KCTV5 has shown you how shockingly easy it is for men to prey on children through the Internet. Now that we've exposed the problem, it's time for solutions, ways parents can make sure their children don't become victims. KCTV5 Chief Investigative Reporter Steve Chamraz has the final part of his investigation.

haha! thanks for the link. the look on their faces is hilarious.
 

TonyG

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I heard about the FBI or one of the other agencies doing this a couple years back. I think I saw it on the discovery channel maybe.
 

Zorba

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The police in my city get someone like this about once a week. I think it is crap. I think the police should be solving the 52 unsolved murders from last year, instead of baiting some sick f!ck into our city so that we can use our tax money send him to our jails, instead of spending that money on more important crap. I do think they are sick, and if they travel someone to bang a kid something should happen to them, but there are just more important things to do that entrap prevs.
 

Howard

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Originally posted by: Zorba
The police in my city get someone like this about once a week. I think it is crap. I think the police should be solving the 52 unsolved murders from last year, instead of baiting some sick f!ck into our city so that we can use our tax money send him to our jails, instead of spending that money on more important crap. I do think they are sick, and if they travel someone to bang a kid something should happen to them, but there are just more important things to do that entrap prevs.
Like catching speeders?
 

ThaGrandCow

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Originally posted by: Zorba
The police in my city get someone like this about once a week. I think it is crap. I think the police should be solving the 52 unsolved murders from last year, instead of baiting some sick f!ck into our city so that we can use our tax money send him to our jails, instead of spending that money on more important crap. I do think they are sick, and if they travel someone to bang a kid something should happen to them, but there are just more important things to do that entrap prevs.

So instead of trapping the pervs that are BLATENTLY searching for innocent children (like the one in my post); the ones that are ready and willing to drive to another state (does the term "across state lines" mean anything to you?) in order to hurt these children... the state should be putting 100% of their time into the unsolved murders (many of which left so little evidence as to ever convict someone... think about the drug dealer that got murdered by someone buying product from them). I hope you never have children.
 

bradruth

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Originally posted by: Zorba
The police in my city get someone like this about once a week. I think it is crap. I think the police should be solving the 52 unsolved murders from last year, instead of baiting some sick f!ck into our city so that we can use our tax money send him to our jails, instead of spending that money on more important crap. I do think they are sick, and if they travel someone to bang a kid something should happen to them, but there are just more important things to do that entrap prevs.

Here's some info for ya, Jack. The vast majority of investigations are solved from information gathered by the first officer(s) on scene. If they're unsolved for a year like that, it's unlikely that they will be solved unless the suspect kills again and the cases are similar. So you'd rather see police follow dead leads for virtually unsolvable cases while perverts have their way with children? Nice.
 

ElFenix

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Originally posted by: nanyangview
From another post, someone tried to date a person over a online game who pretends that she is a 16year old girl. So if we want to get rid of these predators, why don't the FBI set up random locations, hire some volunteers or paid people to go to these online games with Girlish name and impersonate a girl and LUuuuuure all the predators to the trap?

That will do the online community some good rite?

entrapment
 

ElFenix

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Originally posted by: ThaGrandCow

So instead of trapping the pervs that are BLATENTLY searching for innocent children (like the one in my post); the ones that are ready and willing to drive to another state (does the term "across state lines" mean anything to you?) in order to hurt these children... the state should be putting 100% of their time into the unsolved murders (many of which left so little evidence as to ever convict someone... think about the drug dealer that got murdered by someone buying product from them). I hope you never have children.

there is a bit of a difference between a pretty much sexually mature 16 year old female and a 12 year old girl.
 

bradruth

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Originally posted by: ElFenix
Originally posted by: nanyangview
From another post, someone tried to date a person over a online game who pretends that she is a 16year old girl. So if we want to get rid of these predators, why don't the FBI set up random locations, hire some volunteers or paid people to go to these online games with Girlish name and impersonate a girl and LUuuuuure all the predators to the trap?

That will do the online community some good rite?

entrapment

It's only entrapment if the agent doing it is the aggressor. By posing as a girl and allowing the pervs to come to them they are doing nothing legally wrong.
 

bradruth

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Originally posted by: ElFenix
Originally posted by: ThaGrandCow

So instead of trapping the pervs that are BLATENTLY searching for innocent children (like the one in my post); the ones that are ready and willing to drive to another state (does the term "across state lines" mean anything to you?) in order to hurt these children... the state should be putting 100% of their time into the unsolved murders (many of which left so little evidence as to ever convict someone... think about the drug dealer that got murdered by someone buying product from them). I hope you never have children.

there is a bit of a difference between a pretty much sexually mature 16 year old female and a 12 year old girl.

They may be physically mature, but do you really think a 16-year-old is really that emotionally mature?
 

SherEPunjab

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make sure none of these guys live around you. The main page is for Wanted, then, at the bottom, click on your state and see where the predators in your neighborhood live.

Sexual Predators
 

DOSfan

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There is a small loophole with this theory.

All it proves, is that people can, and do, lie over the internet.

If an official, FBI, state police, whatever, signs up for a chatroom as a 14 year old girl - and then some phreak chats this official up, all this proves is that the individual can not trust profiles and such.

All any person in such a position has to do is tell the official that they do not believe them, and then arrange a meeting.

If they get nabbed for online pedophilia, they just scream the meeting was to verify age.

It is not as "concrete" as having a "bait" person in real life.



By the same token, if a 14 year old signed up as say, a 22 year old, and then chatted up the official - what then? The official is then the "perv."

Internet law can not work like real life law.

This in no way makes the idea of people using the internet to find underage children to abuse right... It just makes it different, and harder, to prove correctly.
 

Schadenfroh

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Originally posted by: DOSfan
There is a small loophole with this theory.

All it proves, is that people can, and do, lie over the internet.

If an official, FBI, state police, whatever, signs up for a chatroom as a 14 year old girl - and then some phreak chats this official up, all this proves is that the individual can not trust profiles and such.

All any person in such a position has to do is tell the official that they do not believe them, and then arrange a meeting.

If they get nabbed for online pedophilia, they just scream the meeting was to verify age.

It is not as "concrete" as having a "bait" person in real life.


By the same token, if a 14 year old signed up as say, a 22 year old, and then chatted up the official - what then? The official is then the "perv."

Internet law can not work like real life law.

This in no way makes the idea of people using the internet to find underage children to abuse right... It just makes it different, and harder, to prove correctly.

umm, i know a 22 year old that is screwing a 14 year old and the reason he was attracted to her is because he knew she was 14
:confused:
 

SherEPunjab

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Originally posted by: Schadenfroh
Originally posted by: DOSfan
There is a small loophole with this theory.

All it proves, is that people can, and do, lie over the internet.

If an official, FBI, state police, whatever, signs up for a chatroom as a 14 year old girl - and then some phreak chats this official up, all this proves is that the individual can not trust profiles and such.

All any person in such a position has to do is tell the official that they do not believe them, and then arrange a meeting.

If they get nabbed for online pedophilia, they just scream the meeting was to verify age.

It is not as "concrete" as having a "bait" person in real life.


By the same token, if a 14 year old signed up as say, a 22 year old, and then chatted up the official - what then? The official is then the "perv."

Internet law can not work like real life law.

This in no way makes the idea of people using the internet to find underage children to abuse right... It just makes it different, and harder, to prove correctly.

umm, i know a 22 year old that is screwing a 14 year old and the reason he was attracted to her is because he knew she was 14
:confused:

you should report him. really.
 

Schadenfroh

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Originally posted by: SherEPunjab
Originally posted by: Schadenfroh
Originally posted by: DOSfan
There is a small loophole with this theory.

All it proves, is that people can, and do, lie over the internet.

If an official, FBI, state police, whatever, signs up for a chatroom as a 14 year old girl - and then some phreak chats this official up, all this proves is that the individual can not trust profiles and such.

All any person in such a position has to do is tell the official that they do not believe them, and then arrange a meeting.

If they get nabbed for online pedophilia, they just scream the meeting was to verify age.

It is not as "concrete" as having a "bait" person in real life.


By the same token, if a 14 year old signed up as say, a 22 year old, and then chatted up the official - what then? The official is then the "perv."

Internet law can not work like real life law.

This in no way makes the idea of people using the internet to find underage children to abuse right... It just makes it different, and harder, to prove correctly.

umm, i know a 22 year old that is screwing a 14 year old and the reason he was attracted to her is because he knew she was 14
:confused:

you should report him. really.

same deal, he did a search for our state on the IM listings and females, found her online pop up a com link, and the rest is occuring
 

SherEPunjab

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Originally posted by: Schadenfroh
Originally posted by: SherEPunjab
Originally posted by: Schadenfroh
Originally posted by: DOSfan
There is a small loophole with this theory.

All it proves, is that people can, and do, lie over the internet.

If an official, FBI, state police, whatever, signs up for a chatroom as a 14 year old girl - and then some phreak chats this official up, all this proves is that the individual can not trust profiles and such.

All any person in such a position has to do is tell the official that they do not believe them, and then arrange a meeting.

If they get nabbed for online pedophilia, they just scream the meeting was to verify age.

It is not as "concrete" as having a "bait" person in real life.


By the same token, if a 14 year old signed up as say, a 22 year old, and then chatted up the official - what then? The official is then the "perv."

Internet law can not work like real life law.

This in no way makes the idea of people using the internet to find underage children to abuse right... It just makes it different, and harder, to prove correctly.

umm, i know a 22 year old that is screwing a 14 year old and the reason he was attracted to her is because he knew she was 14
:confused:

you should report him. really.

same deal, he did a search for our state on the IM listings and females, found her online pop up a com link, and the rest is occuring

i take it he's a friend. report his ass.
 

Schadenfroh

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Originally posted by: SherEPunjab
Originally posted by: Schadenfroh
Originally posted by: SherEPunjab
Originally posted by: Schadenfroh
Originally posted by: DOSfan
There is a small loophole with this theory.

All it proves, is that people can, and do, lie over the internet.

If an official, FBI, state police, whatever, signs up for a chatroom as a 14 year old girl - and then some phreak chats this official up, all this proves is that the individual can not trust profiles and such.

All any person in such a position has to do is tell the official that they do not believe them, and then arrange a meeting.

If they get nabbed for online pedophilia, they just scream the meeting was to verify age.

It is not as "concrete" as having a "bait" person in real life.


By the same token, if a 14 year old signed up as say, a 22 year old, and then chatted up the official - what then? The official is then the "perv."

Internet law can not work like real life law.

This in no way makes the idea of people using the internet to find underage children to abuse right... It just makes it different, and harder, to prove correctly.

umm, i know a 22 year old that is screwing a 14 year old and the reason he was attracted to her is because he knew she was 14
:confused:

you should report him. really.

same deal, he did a search for our state on the IM listings and females, found her online pop up a com link, and the rest is occuring

i take it he's a friend. report his ass.

not a friend, dont know him, he did the thing described to a friend of mine who is 17 and now is doing it to the 14 year old
 

SherEPunjab

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Originally posted by: Schadenfroh
Originally posted by: SherEPunjab
Originally posted by: Schadenfroh
Originally posted by: SherEPunjab
Originally posted by: Schadenfroh
Originally posted by: DOSfan
There is a small loophole with this theory.

All it proves, is that people can, and do, lie over the internet.

If an official, FBI, state police, whatever, signs up for a chatroom as a 14 year old girl - and then some phreak chats this official up, all this proves is that the individual can not trust profiles and such.

All any person in such a position has to do is tell the official that they do not believe them, and then arrange a meeting.

If they get nabbed for online pedophilia, they just scream the meeting was to verify age.

It is not as "concrete" as having a "bait" person in real life.


By the same token, if a 14 year old signed up as say, a 22 year old, and then chatted up the official - what then? The official is then the "perv."

Internet law can not work like real life law.

This in no way makes the idea of people using the internet to find underage children to abuse right... It just makes it different, and harder, to prove correctly.

umm, i know a 22 year old that is screwing a 14 year old and the reason he was attracted to her is because he knew she was 14
:confused:

you should report him. really.

same deal, he did a search for our state on the IM listings and females, found her online pop up a com link, and the rest is occuring

i take it he's a friend. report his ass.

not a friend, dont know him, he did the thing described to a friend of mine who is 17 and now is doing it to the 14 year old

okay. are you going to report him or not? report his ass dude. 14 is just wrong.
 

ElFenix

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Originally posted by: bradruth

They may be physically mature, but do you really think a 16-year-old is really that emotionally mature?

i did say "sexually mature" didn't i?