How to build a movie theatre...

Duddy

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My dad is sick of McDonald's, our town has a crap hole movie theatre. Closest other theatre is an hour away. He wants to build a nicer theatre here but we have no idea where to start. I Google'd for a cinema consultant but can't find crap!

Anyone know where we can start?
 

MrPickins

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Call Cinemark or one of the other big chains and ask about opening a franchise.
 

KLin

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1. Buy land
2. build building
3. buy projectors, screens and seats
4. charge 7.50 for large sodas, and 9 bucks for nachos.
5. ....
6. PROFIT

Good enough business plan for you?
 

pcslookout

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Originally posted by: Duddy
My dad is sick of McDonald's, our town has a crap hole movie theatre. Closest other theatre is an hour away. He wants to build a nicer theatre here but we have no idea where to start. I Google'd for a cinema consultant but can't find crap!

Anyone know where we can start?

Just build a really nice drive in theater.
 

K1052

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Originally posted by: MrPickins
Call Cinemark or one of the other big chains and ask about opening a franchise.

Franchises don't really exist in the exhibition industry.
 

K1052

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Originally posted by: KLin
1. Find site
2. Buy land
3. run into zoing/permit probems
4. pay money
5. find/hire contractor
6. hound contractor to actually start
7. build building
8. sue contractor for everything that is wrong...eventually pay contractor
9. buy projectors, screens and seats
10. book films
11. charge 7.50 for large sodas, and 9 bucks for nachos.
12. deal with legions of grumpy customers
13. pay film rental
14. ....
13. profit....maybe

Good enough business plan for you?

fixed for accuracy
 

Cabages

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Wait, what does mcdonalds have to do with this?

A little off topic, but I thought id share this. I read in a magazine about this technology being developed that would allow you to pair up numerous projectors into one image. It would instantly calibrate the output to correspond to one screen. The article said it would be like having your own little cinema. I thought it just sounded cool.
 

LordMorpheus

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Originally posted by: Cabages
Wait, what does mcdonalds have to do with this?

A little off topic, but I thought id share this. I read in a magazine about this technology being developed that would allow you to pair up numerous projectors into one image. It would instantly calibrate the output to correspond to one screen. The article said it would be like having your own little cinema. I thought it just sounded cool.

my best guess is that maybe by his dad being sick of McD's he means that his dad currently owns a McD's franchise?
 

vi edit

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Honest answer: it's not as easy as you think. The print fees you pay to play a movie are INCREDIBLY high. I worked a 2nd run theater in high school. In the mid '90's it cost us between $1000-$2000 a week just to get the prints from a studio.

At the time our tickets only cost $1.50 a piece. We had to sell anywhere from 650+ to over 1300 seats just to break even on that part of the deal. We only had about 200 seats in the theater and M-Thu nights were dead...we'd be lucky to have 40-60 people (single screen). And that was just the print costs. You still had to pay for employees, electricity, equipment, real estate, heating/cooling, ect. That's where concessions came in to play. There were many weeks where we had crappy movies that we actually lost money. We made up for it on others, but overall it was incredibly cutthroat. You were at the mercy of the studios for prints. Because of ticket sales we were limited in choices and often couldn't afford to get first run or popular films to boost the ticket sales.

There's a reason why many small town cinemas are operated by larger groups. Independently they are not an economically viable entity. They can be supplemental though if you can trade prints in and out with your other theaters. Plus you have volume concession pricing that you get through your mega screen locations.
 

BrokenVisage

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First, you need to build a pirate ship.... to plunder enough money to begin to even start dreaming about building and running a conventional movie theater.

PS. LOL @ McDonald's too, I thought I clicked on the wrong topic at first when I started reading heh
 

K1052

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Originally posted by: vi_edit
Honest answer: it's not as easy as you think. The print fees you pay to play a movie are INCREDIBLY high. I worked a 2nd run theater in high school. In the mid '90's it cost us between $1000-$2000 a week just to get the prints from a studio.

At the time our tickets only cost $1.50 a piece. We had to sell anywhere from 650+ to over 1300 seats just to break even on that part of the deal. We only had about 200 seats in the theater and M-Thu nights were dead...we'd be lucky to have 40-60 people (single screen). And that was just the print costs. You still had to pay for employees, electricity, equipment, real estate, heating/cooling, ect. That's where concessions came in to play. There were many weeks where we had crappy movies that we actually lost money. We made up for it on others, but overall it was incredibly cutthroat. You were at the mercy of the studios for prints. Because of ticket sales we were limited in choices and often couldn't afford to get first run or popular films to boost the ticket sales.

There's a reason why many small town cinemas are operated by larger groups. Independently they are not an economically viable entity. They can be supplemental though if you can trade prints in and out with your other theaters. Plus you have volume concession pricing that you get through your mega screen locations.

Film rental has changed a bit. All subrun films are handled on straight percentage (arpox 30%).

Though it is indeed tougher than ever for the smaller/single operators to get by these days.
 

HiTek21

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Stay away from Christie 35mm Projector equipment.

Film-Tech
If you're really serious about building a theatre you should post some questions on Film Tech, they can pretty much answer anything you can think of.

Christie Digital - CP2000 2k DLP projector is awesome and their XP55s are great for Pre show advertisement

Strong-Cinema - Their Millennium 35mm Projectors are tanks if well maintaned but they are not as good as older model Centurys and Simplex 35s. Stay far far away from their new Apogee it is a piece of garbage (unless they've re-tooled the issues out from 2 years ago)
 

HiTek21

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Originally posted by: montypythizzle
I am curious to what these "prints" and big projector/sound systems look like.

Film-Tech check out the picture page if you want to see some of the old theatres setups as well as current modern equipment.
 

vi edit

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Originally posted by: HiTek21
Originally posted by: montypythizzle
I am curious to what these "prints" and big projector/sound systems look like.

Film-Tech check out the picture page if you want to see some of the old theatres setups as well as current modern equipment.

When I first started we had the super basic "reel" system. Essentially two reels. It played from one to the other. Which is fine most of the time. But on Saturdays we did a back to back "late" show about 45 minutes after the first one ended. On those nights we were seriously under the gun to get long movies (2+ hours) rewound so that we were ready to start the next one. Some times we actually had to cut out previews because it wasn't physically possible to rewind the movie in time for the next show. It was pretty stressful.

Before I left we upgraded to a platter system and turned that into a few minute process. It was a huge deal having a platter system in a single screen. The owner considered that his baby :)
 

HiTek21

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I couldn't imaging having to run reel to reel with changing over every 18 minutes or so. With the way kids are now it would be impossible to get them to start the next reel up on time. I've worked in a 20, 12, 15, 16, and a 30 plex and its pretty crazy running around keeping 30 machines going for 8 hours.
 

kranky

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Originally posted by: montypythizzle
Wow, I just thought that the theaters used DVDs and High-end digital projectors?!?

No, but as soon as the studios can work out the technology, they will be distributing digital copies of films to theaters via satellite. They want to eliminate the cost of making and shipping film prints. With digital copies, they can also implement DRM so they can at least monitor, if not completely control, all the showings of the movie.
 

K1052

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Originally posted by: kranky
Originally posted by: montypythizzle
Wow, I just thought that the theaters used DVDs and High-end digital projectors?!?

No, but as soon as the studios can work out the technology, they will be distributing digital copies of films to theaters via satellite. They want to eliminate the cost of making and shipping film prints. With digital copies, they can also implement DRM so they can at least monitor, if not completely control, all the showings of the movie.

It is going to be hard drives for a while. The studios are also never going to get the kind of control over the houses they are lusting for, the exhibitors won't let them.