How to build a house majority

[Phynaz]

Linked from WaPo

http://www.thirdway.org/report/how-to-build-a-house-majority

The left is in trouble. Even if in 2018 they take every suburban district that they don't have today they can't win a majority.

All the haters here are going to need the rural white vote.

 

[dank69]

I have a better idea. Fuck you and let the GOP rule until all you fuckstains are crying uncle. And then let the GOP rule for another 30-40 years.

 

[Genx87]

I have a better idea. Fuck you and let the GOP rule until all you fuckstains are crying uncle. And then let the GOP rule for another 30-40 years.

You must work for the DNC. Seems to be their game plan. That and cry Russia at every opportunity.

 

[Blackjack200]

The left is in trouble.

The left?

 

[xthetenth]

The answer to how to build a house majority is simple:

• Get control of the first census when computers are viable.
• Gerrymander the country hard enough to knock it down to a flawed democracy.
• Don't get primaried, kiddos, because lol @ the idea of actually competitive districts anymore unless people stop jerking themselves off at the thought of being "independent" for long enough to actually protect their democracy, and that's not going to happen when people get their sweet dopamine from starting their sentences with "both sides".
• Stack the SC bench to prevent pesky things like the voting rights act from stopping your plans.

That was easy.

 

[IronWing]

The left?

I don't think he realizes that the left hasn't held any power in this country since the Reagan era and hasn't had real clout since Johnson.

 

[Genx87]

The answer to how to build a house majority is simple:

• Get control of the first census when computers are viable.
• Gerrymander the country hard enough to knock it down to a flawed democracy.
• Don't get primaried, kiddos, because lol @ the idea of actually competitive districts anymore unless people stop jerking themselves off at the thought of being "independent" for long enough to actually protect their democracy, and that's not going to happen when people get their sweet dopamine from starting their sentences with "both sides".
• Stack the SC bench to prevent pesky things like the voting rights act from stopping your plans.

That was easy.

Damn you figured it out. Now why havent the democrats?

 

[Genx87]

I don't think he realizes that the left hasn't held any power in this country since the Reagan era and hasn't had real clout since Johnson.

Depends what we want to call the left. I can make the case the idea of left and right in this country is nothing but a sham designed to keep us peons infighting while both parties enrich themselves on profit and power. Now if we want to get into actual left vs right ideology. Sanders bros vs Paulbots. That is a true ideological divide between left and right. And as we can all see. Neither occupy much space in our political theater.

 

[IronWing]

Damn you figured it out. Now why havent the democrats?

It's a damn good question. The Dems believe in a mythical trickle down theory where winning the White House translates to down ballot wins. Meanwhile the Kochs pour money into state house races. The Kochs are winning.

 

[xthetenth]

Damn you figured it out. Now why havent the democrats?

Where do the democrats or the electorate factor into this? That's missing the entire point. None of this involves any of that tawdry democracy crap, just make the districts and own the house. Haven't you noticed that over the past near decade? The GOP had an opportunity to write the electorate and other party out of the house and they took it.

Depends what we want to call the left. I can make the case the idea of left and right in this country is nothing but a sham designed to keep us peons infighting while both parties enrich themselves on profit and power. Now if we want to get into actual left vs right ideology. Sanders bros vs Paulbots. That is a true ideological divide between left and right. And as we can all see. Neither occupy much space in our political theater.

Usually it just devolves into bickering over whether folks'll give up some crumbs to deny other people's human rights and keep them in poverty. Or more charitably to the other side, whether the government'll take less of their money to give to those horrid stereotypes of others.

 

[Atreus21]

The answer to how to build a house majority is simple:

• Get control of the first census when computers are viable.
• Gerrymander the country hard enough to knock it down to a flawed democracy.
• Don't get primaried, kiddos, because lol @ the idea of actually competitive districts anymore unless people stop jerking themselves off at the thought of being "independent" for long enough to actually protect their democracy, and that's not going to happen when people get their sweet dopamine from starting their sentences with "both sides".
• Stack the SC bench to prevent pesky things like the voting rights act from stopping your plans.

That was easy.

Leftists don't seem to mind that Republicans gerrymander just like has always been done. They mind that Republicans seem to be good at it.

 

[xthetenth]

Leftists don't seem to mind that Republicans gerrymander just like has always been done. They mind that Republicans seem to be good at it.

Yes, please tell me more about what I think. One second while I take all my thoughts about mathematically determined district borders (Cool and good but can do a bad job of combining disparate interests together in a way that prevents different areas from electing representatives that match their needs), scratch them out and scribble "lol nothing matters gerrymander this nation into the ground" over them in crayon. I could also revise my opinions on that putrescent waste of skin Scalia and recant my offer to dig a hole deep enough to hand him off to Satan personally over what he did to the Voting Rights Act. Thank you for shining your gleaming rays of wisdom upon me, I was truly lost as to what I thought.

However, I do specifically mind that they did an excellent job of it because it's yet another instance of the Republicans never turning down an opportunity to fundamentally undermine the faith in the government and its institutions when it'd give them some short term power.

Or, and this is a fascinating alternative to me changing all my opinions to match your justifications, you could stop being a dishonest idiot and engage in some reflection about what you support for once in your life rather than lying to people's faces about what they support. You currently support the active destruction of our democracy and our institutions. That's the sort of thing that separates us from the attempts at nation-building in the Middle East. Given the fact that you've turned your colon into a condominium for tarantula hawks about the general state of that region, I'm morbidly fascinated by how you seem to be all too happy to work towards importing their worst problems.

 

[agent00f]

Leftists don't seem to mind that Republicans gerrymander just like has always been done. They mind that Republicans seem to be good at it.

Damn you figured it out. Now why havent the democrats?

It is rather unfortunately that many liberals believe in being kind instead of fair, even to objectively degenerate people.

 

[buckshot24]

I don't think he realizes that the left hasn't held any power in this country since the Reagan era and hasn't had real clout since Johnson.

Obama and Pelosi aren't "left"?

 

[xthetenth]

Obama and Pelosi aren't "left"?

Obama was a decent enough moderate/liberal, but he sure wasn't left. We generally don't talk about it because we're too busy talking about your staggering, breathtaking idiocy, but there's a ton of left grievances and differences with Obama. Meanwhile the House Minority Leader pretty tautologically doesn't have serious power. It's in the name.

Also, as far as serious power goes, two years hamstrung by blue dogs who'd cheerfully gut any attempts at real left reform in the house isn't nearly as much power as the right has continually wielded.

 

[IronWing]

Obama and Pelosi aren't "left"?

No. Obama is center right and Pelosi is centrist.

 

[Atreus21]

No. Obama is center right and Pelosi is centrist.

uh, haha.

It's a shame we're not allowed to post images anymore.

 

[buckshot24]

No. Obama is center right and Pelosi is centrist.

I see. On his scale they are both lefties, that's who he's talking about.

 

[buckshot24]

Obama was a decent enough moderate/liberal, but he sure wasn't left. We generally don't talk about it because we're too busy talking about your staggering, breathtaking idiocy, but there's a ton of left grievances and differences with Obama. Meanwhile the House Minority Leader pretty tautologically doesn't have serious power. It's in the name.

Also, as far as serious power goes, two years hamstrung by blue dogs who'd cheerfully gut any attempts at real left reform in the house isn't nearly as much power as the right has continually wielded.

In that case then you agree that conservatives haven't been in power, like ever.

 

[xthetenth]

uh, haha.

It's a shame we're not allowed to post images anymore.

Yes, truly a shame that you're forced to rely on your words, like a big boy who can communicate ideas and arguments.

In that case then you agree that conservatives haven't been in power, like ever.

Actually, and likely to the surprise of many, more than you'd think. The Bush administration was the closest they got to serious power and they were part of a coalition with people who put evangelical Christianity ahead of straight conservativism, and by now the Republican party has been eaten entirely by their faustian bargain with right wingers who only supported conservative policies because they hurt those people. However the Reagan administration was pretty much straight up conservative even if it was covered in the myths the pushback to the Civil Rights Act used to justify themselves.

I use conservativism to mean right wingers here because it's your preferred term, but frankly you don't deserve the pretense to actual principles.

 

[brycejones]

The left?

You know anyone who isn't to the right of the john birch society.

 

[Blackjack200]

Obama and Pelosi aren't "left"?

No.

 

[fskimospy]

No.

It's a strange thing when someone's signature achievement is a massive expansion of free health care for the poor, financed by taxes on the rich, and isn't considered 'left'.

 

[buckshot24]

No.

Bernie?

 

[Azuma Hazuki]

Sanders is center-left by the standards of the civilized world. Clinton is center-right, and further right than Obama. And Reagan.

And the Republicans are basically the Christian Taliban, but too fat and effeminate and low-testosterone to grow facial hair. Which, incidentally, describes most of their constituency as well.