How to best install Norton Systemworks 2003?

[Muse]

I WAS running NSW 2001 (now have NSW 2003 OEM disk), and having done some research I decided the way to go was configure it during the install to have only NAV load automatically and have all the other stuff installed but configured to run "manually." It's a clear option in the install. I just reformated my OS partition and installed Windows 2000, have gotten all the Windows Updates I care for including SP4, installed my Zonealarm firewall, and want to install Norton Systemworks 2003. However, the install is a lot different from NSW 2001. It only lets you pick for each of about 5 components between:

No install
Full install
Regular install (This is my term, I can't remember what it said exactly)

There's no way you can configure (at least during the install) the components to only be launchable manually. I went through the install inspecting what it said and decided to not install CleanSweep, since it said it would monitor and change things, configure things, optimize things, etc. etc. automatically all the time. I'm afraid of this beast, based on the reputation NSW 2001 and previous had for trashing Windows 2000 systems if you did not configure the non-NAV components to be only runable manually. When I installed this way yesterday (NSW 2003, all components except CleanSweep, regular install) I didn't have my Internet connection configured yet. Somehow, NSW was screwed up from the getgo and upon every reboot it indicated an error with NAVPROD.DLL and that I had to go to Symantec's website and plow through their support documentation in an effort to fix the problem. Uninstalling NSW did not stop these error messages. Symantec's documentation said I should install IE 6 or uninstall NSW, but neither fixed the problem and rather than tear my hair out plowing deeper into their labyrinthine support documentation (with imbedded links) I decided to reinstall Windows 2000 from scratch.

Now I'm in a similar situation but haven't yet installed NSW 2003 and wonder what the trip is with NSW 2003. How should I install it? One thing I have done this time is Ghost the OS partition in case I want to go back to pre-NSW 2003 status without having to go through all the work of starting from scratch. Thanks for any guidance here.

 

[bub]

For me, everything manual or not installed (you can run most of the programs from the CD) EXCEPT email received.

Problem is Norton will take over your box if you let it. It WILL turn your Rice Rocket into a Model 'T'.

 

[mboy]

Best advice: DONT INSTALL IT!

 

[Muse]

Originally posted by: bub
For me, everything manual or not installed (you can run most of the programs from the CD) EXCEPT email received.

Problem is Norton will take over your box if you let it. It WILL turn your Rice Rocket into a Model 'T'.

... and ...

Best advice: DONT INSTALL IT!

Gee, I'm afraid you guys are right! I don't know what's going on exactly but I haven't been able to get NSW 2003 to install correctly on my freshly installed Windows 2000 SP4 system. It's not as though my system is anything special or anything. I mean it was working fine with NSW 2001, all the same components, same OS. Now, I can't get Norton AV Autoprotect to enable no matter what I do. I Ghosted back my OS partition from before NSW install and tried again, this time not installing the Via 4in1 drivers and the MSI utilities from my video card's install disk. Same problem. Don't know what to do. I figure I could try installing NSW 2001 !! That at least worked. But I just bought OEM NSW 2003, and figure the darn thing should work with my Win2000 box just like NSW 2001 did. I think before going that route (trying NSW 2001 instead) I will try just installing NAV 2003 from the disk and see if it will work that way. Of course, I need Liveupdate too.

 

[crisscross]

try system mechanic... the new version 4.0 is pretty good

 

[Muse]

Originally posted by: Tornado54
try system mechanic... the new version 4.0 is pretty good

What is it? Part of NSW 2003?

 

[Zepper]

System Mech is another utility suite. Can't you do a "Custom Install" with NSW '03 so that only the parts you want get installed?
. If not, just get VCom System Suite 5.0. You definitely CAN install 1 part at a time with it. I've preferred SS over NSW for the last several years.
. It uses Trend PCCillin for AV and Sygate for the firewall. The "free" PowerDesk 5 is worth the price of the whole package!
. Get the boxed version at Walmart for $40. and get a $20. "trade up from NSW" rebate from VCom. http://www.v-com.com .
.bh..
Where's the :sun: ?

 

[Muse]

Originally posted by: Zepper
System Mech is another utility suite. Can't you do a "Custom Install" with NSW '03 so that only the parts you want get installed?
. If not, just get VCom System Suite 5.0. You definitely CAN install 1 part at a time with it. I've preferred SS over NSW for the last several years.
. It uses Trend PCCillin for AV and Sygate for the firewall. The "free" PowerDesk 5 is worth the price of the whole package!
. Get the boxed version at Walmart for $40. and get a $20. "trade up from NSW" rebate from VCom. http://www.v-com.com .
.bh..
Where's the :sun: ?

Mmmm. Thanks! Some good ideas. My boss at a job I had in 2000 was big into Powerdesk, or I think it was that. He didnt' demo it for me, though. I think I played around with a limited powered freeware edition for a while. I just use Windows 2000 Explorer, but I guess if I used a really full featured app like Powerdesk I'd never be satisfied with Explorer.

This afternoon, after soooo much trouble this week I finally succeeded in getting NSW 2003 to work. I maybe could have gotten away with the full install but I decided to do a minimal install - just the things I really want, which are NAV and Ghost. I did a reformat of the Windows 2000 partition earlier in the afternoon, and just crossed my fingers because nothing was getting NAV Autoprotect to enable. Earlier in the week I reinstalled Windows 2000 but elected not to reformat the partition, which I now think was a very big mistake. I think that left a lot of stuff on the partition unchanged including Documents and Settings files and folders and who knows, maybe even some registry stuff. I hope I never do that again. I tried limited installs of NSW 2003, NSW 2001, nothing would work until I reformatted the OS partition. Then I realized that all 3 of my Ghost images postdated my first attempt to install NSW and I realized a reformat was definitely in order. It wasn't so bad. The second time around in a complex installation sequence is always way way easier.

Thanks for these alternatives to NSW. I was starting to think I'd have to go to an alternative, but I already bought the NSW 2003 OEM disk. Maybe next time I'll go with the VCom System Suite.

Now if I can only get Windows 2000 to query my modem everything will be fine AFAIK.