How to backup samsung 950 prp?

wouterkcs

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Anyone knows which backup software does:

x Support new SAMSUNG 950 PRO
x Full and Incremental backup
x Offline Restore

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=Wendy=

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Macrium Reflect does the job well.
Install the Samsung NVMe driver, then create a rescue media.
It builds a WinPE rescue media with the required drivers, and plugins.
It also supports legacy and UEFI installations, MBR and GPT partitions.

There is a free edition, which may not support incremental backups, but you can try the free version, and if you like it you can purchase the full version, which does support incremental backups.

All editions fully support Windows 7, 8, 8.1, and Windows 10
 
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Johnny Lucky

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There is no need for backup software if you use Microsoft Windows for an operating system. You can use the Windows backup and restore features. I have mine set to perform a backup to a secondary data drive automatically every Sunday morning. The backup takes place in the background. No Muss! No Fuss! No bother!

You can also use Windows to create an emergency boot disk and a repair disk.
 
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larryccf

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don't know about backup, but just helped a bud install his 950 PRO tonite - EaseUS ToDo Backup vs 8.9, which is the latest version, would NOT clone the OS drive to the 950 PRO (and yes, Samsung's NVMe driver was installed). EaseUS would recognize the drive when the program was opened and target drive selected in the program while open in windows - but it wanted to boot into linux or windows PE to execute the clone, and when i let it, it then came back with an error code

went and downloaded the samsung migration software, and it cloned it perfectly, and actually in only a few minutes, maybe 15 -

and it surprised me, it booted without any use of the windows dvd to "repair" the installation or boot files

the OS transfer to the 950 PRO took virtually no more effort than installing a new sata SSD, except for the addition of installing the NVMe driver
 
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larryccf

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There is no need for backup software if you use Microsoft Windows for an operating system. You can use the Windows backup and restore features. I have mine set to perform a backup to a secondary data drive automatically every Sunday morning. The backup takes place in the background. No Muss! No Fuss! No bother!

You can also use Windows to create an emergency boot disk and a repair disk.

have you already backed up a 950 PRO? -
 

Johnny Lucky

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have you already backed up a 950 PRO? -

I have not yet purchased a 950 Pro. Today is Veterans Day in the USA. It is a national holiday honoring military veterans. I was hoping newegg or another vendor would have a special promotion. It did not happen. Maybe there will be a sale price on Black Friday or Cyber Monday. I was also hoping there would be more customer feedback and forum posts.

Currently newegg is selling the 512GB model with a free copy of Assassins Creed Syndicate. Newegg sells the game for $59.99 USD. I am not a gamer. I am having visions of newegg selling the ssd without the game for $299.99.

In the meantime I noticed Samsung no longer lists the 840 models on their web pages. The only thing left are the customer support and download pages. It appears as if Samsung is going with just the 850 and 950 models for consumers.
 

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I have not yet purchased a 950 Pro. Today is Veterans Day in the USA. It is a national holiday honoring military veterans. I was hoping newegg or another vendor would have a special promotion. It did not happen. Maybe there will be a sale price on Black Friday or Cyber Monday. I was also hoping there would be more customer feedback and forum posts.

Currently newegg is selling the 512GB model with a free copy of Assassins Creed Syndicate. Newegg sells the game for $59.99 USD. I am not a gamer. I am having visions of newegg selling the ssd without the game for $299.99.

In the meantime I noticed Samsung no longer lists the 840 models on their web pages. The only thing left are the customer support and download pages. It appears as if Samsung is going with just the 850 and 950 models for consumers.

I'm in the same boat better price and more feed back on a Z97 MB with fresh install of W10, I have the upgraded version of W10 and heard horror story's about getting a fresh install on a new drive not activating, I understand that W10 Threshold 2 solves some of that, with being able to use your old W8.1 key to activate so I'm sort of waiting on that to happen also.
 

larryccf

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I wonder how long before we see M.2 > expansion cards like this HP Turbo Z setup offered - if i'm going to sacrifice a x16 slot, might as well get full use of all 16 lanes

zturbo_w_600.jpg

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full story at http://www.tomsitpro.com/articles/hp-reveals-turboz-quad-pro,1-3022.html

and for the benefit of others installing win 7 on the 950 PRO, this might serve. I posted this in another forum but figured it might help some here

Yesterday I helped a bud install his 950 PRO, he's running win 7 on a Z97 mobo, so i figured it'd be nice to see what issues we'd run into (we'd built nearly identical systems, kind of the "blind leading the blind" when we built them). He had a xp941 512GB SSD already running win 7 x64 - we installed the 950 into an expansion card in a PCIe 3.0 slot, and then installed the NVMe driver - we had tried installing the samsung NVMe driver first, but it wouldn't install until there was a NVMe device detected.

We tried using EaseUS to just clone the xp941 to the 950 and while EaseUS did recognize the 950 when selecting "target" drive, when you clikked to proceed, it'd show a msg that it needed to reboot into either linux or WINPE - i clikked to accept, it'd reboot then show an error msg that it could not detect the selected drive. I suspect it's something with linux and NVMe but i'm not literate enough to know. I then tried it by using the EaseUS recovery CD which is linux (not winpe version) and it showed the same error.

We then downloaded the samsung data migration software, and it cloned perfectly, no missing boot files, no need to use the windows dvd in "repair" mode. Total time to clone approx 77 GB was approx 15 minutes.

I only detailed the above to save some whatever issues i ran into with EaseUS - and i was using the latest version of EaseUS Backup (vs 8.9).

fwiw
 
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larryccf

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anyone know a utility that will read & report the 950 PRO's temps and a log of those temps?
 
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Redstorm

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We then downloaded the samsung data migration software, and it cloned perfectly, no missing boot files, no need to use the windows dvd in "repair" mode. Total time to clone approx 77 GB was approx 15 minutes.

fwiw

What boot mode was the XP941 that was cloned in? legacy BIOS/MBR or UEFI mode?

The linux kernel has had nvme support since version 3.1. The issue is the applications also need to be updated to handle nvme. One utility that has been updated for NVME support is GParted, which also allows you to clone/copy partitions plus many other partition related operations.

Most linux software that deals with partitions will need updating to look for devices with 'nvme' in the string.
nvme disks look like this: /dev/nvme0n1
SATA disks under linux look like /dev/sda, /dev/sdb and so on.

https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=755022

Keen to find out what boot mode the Samsung migration software was able to migrate successfully without needing to repair, hopefully it will handle both use cases.
 

larryccf

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What boot mode was the XP941 that was cloned in? legacy BIOS/MBR or UEFI mode?

The linux kernel has had nvme support since version 3.1. The issue is the applications also need to be updated to handle nvme. One utility that has been updated for NVME support is GParted, which also allows you to clone/copy partitions plus many other partition related operations.

Most linux software that deals with partitions will need updating to look for devices with 'nvme' in the string.
nvme disks look like this: /dev/nvme0n1
SATA disks under linux look like /dev/sda, /dev/sdb and so on.

https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=755022

Keen to find out what boot mode the Samsung migration software was able to migrate successfully without needing to repair, hopefully it will handle both use cases.


UEFI mode - i wish i could have installed it in legacy mbr mode

one odd part about the xp941, everytime i installed win 7 (twice), it created a 5.38 gb partition that was unallocated, but would not let me remove it or add it to either the C or D partition - in fact, trying to do so, using either disk management or easeus partition manager, would crash the system, as in BSOD, and crash it so badly that it corrupted the boot files to the point that windows dvd was not able to "repair" the installation. That was reason win 7 was installed twice, and the 3rd time i simply cloned from a sata ssd

here's a shot of that 5.38 gb partition

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it created that 5.38 gb partition on both mine and my bud's system, BUT when i cloned his xp941 over to the 950, it didn't clone over ??????
 

readymix

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Macrium Reflect is working well so far. I cloned from a Samsung 830 to a bootable 950.

1) install 950
2) Bios changed to setup defaults
3) Boot to existing uefi/gpt win7 ultimate and install microsoft nvme hotfix. restart.
4) install Samsung nvme driver. restart
5) clone with Macrium from desktop application. shutdown.
6) Disconnect 830
7) Boot to win7 via Samsung 950
8) restored my bios settings.

one and done, praise the lord!

Later, from the rescue media, I ran a successful image backup. Have not attempted a image restore.
 
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HexiumVII

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so how fast is this sucker? I'm still thinking of just getting an 850Evo for 1/3rd of the 950Pro and call it a day on my skylake build.