How Tampa Lightning fan outwitted petty HOA over playoff sign

[MikeMike]

Already there.

my parents live in a 26 home development... there is no HOA... yet no one puts signs up in their lawn, unless its for their kid or for politics... There is ONE house that doesn't do the best on their lawn, and if someone gets pissed, they typically go and talk to the person and offer to do it for them... There is one house that has a few cars in the drive way... you know what people did? the ones who live next to them put up a fence to block their view, the rest just ignore it...

Houses in this development range from probably $250k-$450k depending upon the house...

yet there is no HOA, OMG HOW DO WE SURVIVE

 

[DominionSeraph]

my parents live in a 26 home development... there is no HOA... yet no one puts signs up in their lawn, unless its for their kid or for politics... There is ONE house that doesn't do the best on their lawn, and if someone gets pissed, they typically go and talk to the person and offer to do it for them... There is one house that has a few cars in the drive way... you know what people did? the ones who live next to them put up a fence to block their view, the rest just ignore it...

Houses in this development range from probably $250k-$450k depending upon the house...

yet there is no HOA, OMG HOW DO WE SURVIVE

When did I ever say I had a HOA?

No regulation is needed when people self-regulate. The man in the OP's article seems to have difficulties performing that task, though. So, unfortunately, it's a good thing for his neighbors that they have a HOA, because it means that they have the means to regulate he who can't regulate himself.
Around here we'd have to go through the trouble of passing a local ordinance.

 

[MikeMike]

When did I ever say I had a HOA?

No regulation is needed when people self-regulate. The man in the OP's article seems to have difficulties performing that task, though. So, unfortunately, it's a good thing for his neighbors that they have a HOA, because it means that they have the means to regulate he who can't regulate himself.
Around here we'd have to go through the trouble of passing a local ordinance.

it's a sign that will be up for MAYBE two months... How the fuck does that affect values???

 

[DaTT]

Typical "me me me" conservative moron.
The world is bigger than just you. People have an effect on others and a civic duty to manage that effect.

You're not part of the WBC are you?

Can you honestly think that this guy supporting his local sports team in the playoffs with a sign or two outside of his home is going to devalue any of the homes in or around the area? I would bet that you don't get along well with other people, especially those who are in a "lower" income class than you. I would also bet that not many people like you.

 

[PottedMeat]

LOL, WIN!!! fuck HOAs bunch of lowlife douche bags

a real win for him would be outing this lady:

A few days later, his wife was at home when something caught her eye outside the house. It was a woman with a camera, taking a photo of the new sign, ostensibly for more HOA tattling.

he should put up another sign with a camera in the window to see who's taking pictures

 

[chalmers]

Typical "me me me" conservative moron.
The world is bigger than just you. People have an effect on others and a civic duty to manage that effect.

I bet you're a real joy to be around.

 

[chalmers]

my parents live in a 26 home development... there is no HOA... yet no one puts signs up in their lawn, unless its for their kid or for politics... There is ONE house that doesn't do the best on their lawn, and if someone gets pissed, they typically go and talk to the person and offer to do it for them... There is one house that has a few cars in the drive way... you know what people did? the ones who live next to them put up a fence to block their view, the rest just ignore it...

Houses in this development range from probably $250k-$450k depending upon the house...

yet there is no HOA, OMG HOW DO WE SURVIVE

Wow, people make comments to him about his lawn? I'll never live in a place with an HOA or people like that. When I buy a house, I control it, nobody else.

 

[amdhunter]

Why do people even move to HOA areas? Sure they can help maintain a community, but so can a well placed bullet.

 

[sjwaste]

I love it. He's playing by the rules!

 

[Numenorean]

Why do people even move to HOA areas? Sure they can help maintain a community, but so can a well placed bullet.

Are you implying someone should shoot the guy over a front yard sign?

 

[alkemyst]

Sadly, anyone that lives in a community is part of the HOA...if they had a problem with the rules they should have skipped buying the home.

Now this asshat finds a loophole and goes one step further to be more obnoxious to the 'HOA' and fucking his neighbors in the process.

 

[alkemyst]

When did I ever say I had a HOA?

No regulation is needed when people self-regulate. The man in the OP's article seems to have difficulties performing that task, though. So, unfortunately, it's a good thing for his neighbors that they have a HOA, because it means that they have the means to regulate he who can't regulate himself.
Around here we'd have to go through the trouble of passing a local ordinance.

Well unfortunately my neighborhood was $250k+ homes now worth less than $100k...as a result of many that bought knowing there was no HOA being able to rent them out for much more than they paid.

The problem is to do that they rent at $500/month/person and cram 10+ people in a home.

The code enforcement isn't policing it...also most are not maintaining their yards. Code enforcement waits until the grass is 12" or taller and then gives 4 weeks to comply before a forced cutting. It's cheaper to just let them take care of it. Up until last year I was cutting the grass of two homes one house away from me as no one was taking care of them...one is still vacant, but maintained as a guy bought it and two others side by side for rentals...tenants change almost every few months. They look like parking lots.

I bought here because several years ago it was very nice....many had lived and grew up here since the 70's, more than one family moved away in the 80's only to return in the 90's/00's.

It's totally transformed.

 

[BW86]

haha, nice

good for him

 

[videogames101]

Typical "me me me" conservative moron.
The world is bigger than just you. People have an effect on others and a civic duty to manage that effect.

You seem to value the property value of a home over the freedom to put up an ugly sign, and I find that idea completely ludicrous. I'm I misinterpreting your comment?


(If we take your principle, and apply it rigorously, no one is allowed to do anything.)

 

[Balt]

Eh, when you agree to join one of those "communities" you agree to all of their stupid rules. And you can also count on there being letter-of-the-law busy bodies in the neighborhood because there are ALWAYS such people who simply have nothing better to do with their lives.

My father lives in one and he says there's always one woman who comes to every association meeting with a laundry list of rants. She insisted, for example, that my father's house wasn't built far enough from the road. The distance was checked again and was fine, by the way, but it hasn't stopped her from her crusade.

 

[xanis]

When did I ever say I had a HOA?

No regulation is needed when people self-regulate. The man in the OP's article seems to have difficulties performing that task, though. So, unfortunately, it's a good thing for his neighbors that they have a HOA, because it means that they have the means to regulate he who can't regulate himself.
Around here we'd have to go through the trouble of passing a local ordinance.

Where do you get "can't regulate" from? He put up a sign to support his sports team... it's not like he painted his house safety orange or turned his property into a junkyard.

 

[chalmers]

Eh, when you agree to join one of those "communities" you agree to all of their stupid rules. And you can also count on there being letter-of-the-law busy bodies in the neighborhood because there are ALWAYS such people who simply have nothing better to do with their lives.

My father lives in one and he says there's always one woman who comes to every association meeting with a laundry list of rants. She insisted, for example, that my father's house wasn't built far enough from the road. The distance was checked again and was fine, by the way, but it hasn't stopped her from her crusade.

I can't believe there are human beings like this that exist. Wow.

 

[shortylickens]

If HOA's did something useful like keep out illegals I wouldnt mind them.

 

[GodlessAstronomer]

What kind of douchebag actually puts up a sports team sign on their lawn? What a dickhead.

 

[shortylickens]

What kind of douchebag actually puts up a sports team sign on their lawn? What a dickhead.

 

[Anubis]

Well unfortunately my neighborhood was $250k+ homes now worth less than $100k...as a result of many that bought knowing there was no HOA being able to rent them out for much more than they paid.

The problem is to do that they rent at $500/month/person and cram 10+ people in a home.

The code enforcement isn't policing it...also most are not maintaining their yards. Code enforcement waits until the grass is 12" or taller and then gives 4 weeks to comply before a forced cutting. It's cheaper to just let them take care of it. Up until last year I was cutting the grass of two homes one house away from me as no one was taking care of them...one is still vacant, but maintained as a guy bought it and two others side by side for rentals...tenants change almost every few months. They look like parking lots.

I bought here because several years ago it was very nice....many had lived and grew up here since the 70's, more than one family moved away in the 80's only to return in the 90's/00's.

It's totally transformed.

Tbh that's because you live in Florida it's a shighile HOA or not

 

[AznAnarchy99]

Pretty sad that the HOA is going to have to change its rules to be even more specific just because of one douchebag who can't get along.
The sign and the flag are ugly and would reduce property values in the neighborhood.

People generally don't realize that small amounts of visual pollution can significantly shift human perception.

This:

Is incompatible with this:

Several years back the local towns in my area changed the zoning laws for businesses, limiting signage height, lighting, and even materials. And things are so much more picturesque now. The path urbanization has taken is not pretty -- companies have been allowed to rape the visual field to pull attention to themselves. Correcting that allows for a much more peaceful living environment.

All I see is gas prices under 3 bucks.

 

[boomhower]

HOA are fine. They serve a purpose and do tend to keep neighborhoods better looking and property values high. That said, I'll never live in one. I don't want anyone telling me what I can or can't do to my property. If you choose to move into an HOA area, you can't later bitch that you don't like the rules. You chose to live there and by doing so chose to agree to the rules of the HOA. Deal with it or move.

 

[DominionSeraph]

Can you honestly think that this guy supporting his local sports team in the playoffs with a sign or two outside of his home is going to devalue any of the homes in or around the area?

I wouldn't buy a house anywhere near that sign, so it's rather obvious that such is the case.

If you're gonna put on a display, do it right. It should be a positive focal point, not a detraction from the norm.
The displays under discussion are lousy. There's no emotion to them, and no balance with the surroundings.
We have plenty of people around here who fly Red Sox flags, and they look good. They are not generic white signboards nor ugly solid-colored rectangles inartistically hung. A flag hanging off a pole attached to the porch of a New England ranch or to the side of the entryway on a colonial just works.
Your typical suburban Floridian architecture and landscaping aren't so good for displays. The lighting isn't even in the favor, with a higher sun angle and lack of trees to shadow the foreground.

Ugly:

Better:

That damned driveway skews everything when it's so prominent in the foreground.

 

[zerocool84]

Well you live and support the HOA so you have to live by the rules. Me personally I'd never live in a HOA. I'd never let a neighbor try to regulate what I do to my own house. If I want to paint it pink then I'll paint it pink. Neighbors behind me painted their house pink and more power to them for doing it. It's their house and it doesn't violate any laws. HOA's think they're above state and federal laws and all these retards support them cus they have nothing better to do in their life.