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Sultan

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Originally posted by: athithi
Originally posted by: Sultan....some more tripe....

Just to re-iterate your stance:

athithi -> sees the negatives of his religion and discards them

Sultan -> sees the negatives of his religion and implements them

I shouldn't bother defending myself anymore. You do a much better job for me :) Thanks!

Let me rephrase:

Athithi -> chooses what parts of his religion and his God's commandments he follows.

Sultan -> believes in his religion as a whole and not piecewise.

So what other parts of Hinduism have you forgone? Or rather, what parts of Hinduism do you actually follow? :)
 
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Originally posted by: athithi
Originally posted by: Sultan....some more tripe....

Just to re-iterate your stance:

athithi -> sees the negatives of his religion and discards them

Sultan -> sees the negatives of his religion and implements them

I shouldn't bother defending myself anymore. You do a much better job for me :) Thanks!

Sounds about right.

Sultan -> crazy fanatical bigot
 

Sultan

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That's debatable. Its practice varied in prevalence, so you can't universally say that it's practiced by all strict Hindus. Plus, there are many different types of Hindus just like sects of other religions. Just like how Christians don't believe anymore that the universe revolves around the Earth. So yes, I would say that Christianity has evolved.

There are all sorts of strange and crazy quotes from the Koran. Do you practice everything it says? Aren't Muslims not supposed to deal with interest rates or some stuff like that, not deal with any company that deals with it, etc.? Then how can you live in the US? You're not a real Muslim then. Or maybe you evolved witih the times.

If you don't evolve with the times, you'll forever be a barbarian.

Debatable by what standards?

I have a checking account, non-interest bearing. I rent a home, no mortgage. I own a car I paid full for, not lease or financed. I dont know where you got the idea about not dealing with any company that deals with it. Practicing Muslims try to follow their religious commandments as best as they can.
 

CanOWorms

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Originally posted by: Sultan
That's debatable. Its practice varied in prevalence, so you can't universally say that it's practiced by all strict Hindus. Plus, there are many different types of Hindus just like sects of other religions. Just like how Christians don't believe anymore that the universe revolves around the Earth. So yes, I would say that Christianity has evolved.

There are all sorts of strange and crazy quotes from the Koran. Do you practice everything it says? Aren't Muslims not supposed to deal with interest rates or some stuff like that, not deal with any company that deals with it, etc.? Then how can you live in the US? You're not a real Muslim then. Or maybe you evolved witih the times.

If you don't evolve with the times, you'll forever be a barbarian.

Debatable by what standards?

I have a checking account, non-interest bearing. I rent a home, no mortgage. I own a car I paid full for, not lease or financed. I dont know where you got the idea about not dealing with any company that deals with it. Practicing Muslims try to follow their religious commandments as best as they can.

Debatable if you look at history.

lol, looks piecewise to me. You're just selectively choosing things. And you call yourself a real Muslim.
 

Sultan

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Originally posted by: CanOWorms
Originally posted by: Sultan
That's debatable. Its practice varied in prevalence, so you can't universally say that it's practiced by all strict Hindus. Plus, there are many different types of Hindus just like sects of other religions. Just like how Christians don't believe anymore that the universe revolves around the Earth. So yes, I would say that Christianity has evolved.

There are all sorts of strange and crazy quotes from the Koran. Do you practice everything it says? Aren't Muslims not supposed to deal with interest rates or some stuff like that, not deal with any company that deals with it, etc.? Then how can you live in the US? You're not a real Muslim then. Or maybe you evolved witih the times.

If you don't evolve with the times, you'll forever be a barbarian.

Debatable by what standards?

I have a checking account, non-interest bearing. I rent a home, no mortgage. I own a car I paid full for, not lease or financed. I dont know where you got the idea about not dealing with any company that deals with it. Practicing Muslims try to follow their religious commandments as best as they can.

Debatable if you look at history.

lol, looks piecewise to me. You're just selectively choosing things. And you call yourself a real Muslim.

how does it look piecewise? you mentioned interest. I gave you answer. :roll:

Sati is part of Hindu religion. If its not practiced, that does not exclude it from the religion.
 

CanOWorms

Lifer
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Originally posted by: Sultan
Originally posted by: CanOWorms
Originally posted by: Sultan
That's debatable. Its practice varied in prevalence, so you can't universally say that it's practiced by all strict Hindus. Plus, there are many different types of Hindus just like sects of other religions. Just like how Christians don't believe anymore that the universe revolves around the Earth. So yes, I would say that Christianity has evolved.

There are all sorts of strange and crazy quotes from the Koran. Do you practice everything it says? Aren't Muslims not supposed to deal with interest rates or some stuff like that, not deal with any company that deals with it, etc.? Then how can you live in the US? You're not a real Muslim then. Or maybe you evolved witih the times.

If you don't evolve with the times, you'll forever be a barbarian.

Debatable by what standards?

I have a checking account, non-interest bearing. I rent a home, no mortgage. I own a car I paid full for, not lease or financed. I dont know where you got the idea about not dealing with any company that deals with it. Practicing Muslims try to follow their religious commandments as best as they can.

Debatable if you look at history.

lol, looks piecewise to me. You're just selectively choosing things. And you call yourself a real Muslim.

how does it look piecewise? you mentioned interest. I gave you answer. :roll:

Sati is part of Hindu religion. If its not practiced, that does not exclude it from the religion.

It looks piecewise to me. You should only be taking part with an Islamic bank. You're patronizing institutions that make money off of interest. I wonder if you have any credit cards, student loans, etc.

I'm sure that I can pick crazy quotes from Islamic texts (just like with any religion) that talk about killing infidels and other crazy stuff. How come you're not doing that?

It seems to me that you think that religions consist of ONLY one sect and does not evolve.
 

CanOWorms

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Islam itself is inherently piecewise when it was first created. Isn't it an Abrahamic religion? Seems that it came after Judaism and Christianity. Hmmmm...
 

Sultan

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It looks piecewise to me. You should only be taking part with an Islamic bank. You're patronizing institutions that make money off of interest. I wonder if you have any credit cards, student loans, etc.

I'm sure that I can pick crazy quotes from Islamic texts (just like with any religion) that talk about killing infidels and other crazy stuff. How come you're not doing that?

It seems to me that you think that religions consist of ONLY one sect and does not evolve.

I am not sure where you get your information from. I am not supposed to take or give interest. I dont. So I am in accordance with the teachings of the Quran.

There's no such stuff in the Quran about simply "killing infidels". Please do not spread misinformation if you are not well-versed in what you are speaking about. That would be well appreciated.
 

Sultan

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Originally posted by: CanOWorms
Islam itself is inherently piecewise when it was first created. Isn't it an Abrahamic religion? Seems that it came after Judaism and Christianity. Hmmmm...

Obviously Christianity needed corrections if it led its followers to believe that the Sun revolves around the Earth :roll:

I speak from the information you provided and I cannot say what was/is wrong with either of the religious teaching you mentioned.
 

CanOWorms

Lifer
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Originally posted by: Sultan
It looks piecewise to me. You should only be taking part with an Islamic bank. You're patronizing institutions that make money off of interest. I wonder if you have any credit cards, student loans, etc.

I'm sure that I can pick crazy quotes from Islamic texts (just like with any religion) that talk about killing infidels and other crazy stuff. How come you're not doing that?

It seems to me that you think that religions consist of ONLY one sect and does not evolve.

I am not sure where you get your information from. I am not supposed to take or give interest. I dont. So I am in accordance with the teachings of the Quran.

There's no such stuff in the Quran about simply "killing infidels". Please do not spread misinformation if you are not well-versed in what you are speaking about. That would be well appreciated.

Like I said, I'm just making up crazy stuff that can be found in every religious text. I'm sure that there are many things in there that you're not following.

You are not in accordance with Islam's teachings. You're taking it piecewise, just accepting the things that suit you. You should only be dealing with Islamic banking systems.
 

CanOWorms

Lifer
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Originally posted by: Sultan
Originally posted by: CanOWorms
Islam itself is inherently piecewise when it was first created. Isn't it an Abrahamic religion? Seems that it came after Judaism and Christianity. Hmmmm...

Obviously Christianity needed corrections if it led its followers to believe that the Sun revolves around the Earth :roll:

I speak from the information you provided and I cannot say what was/is wrong with either of the religious teaching you mentioned.

So you agree that Islam itself is inherently piecewise? Then why criticize Atithi?
 

Kadarin

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Originally posted by: RabidMongoose
Originally posted by: Astaroth33
Islam is a sick culture that contributes NOTHING to the human condition. The people that perform these barbaric actions deserve to be exterminated like the vermin that they are. Nothing more, nothing less.

There is a seat waiting for you beside your fellow hater Sultan. You two are so similar in hate that it is scary.

Similar in hate? Maybe... But not similar in terms of bigotry and ignorance. My stance is very simple: I just hate people who are willing to behead people, fly planes into buildings, blow themselves up, etc., all because they hate my way of life.
 

Sultan

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Originally posted by: CanOWorms
Originally posted by: Sultan
It looks piecewise to me. You should only be taking part with an Islamic bank. You're patronizing institutions that make money off of interest. I wonder if you have any credit cards, student loans, etc.

I'm sure that I can pick crazy quotes from Islamic texts (just like with any religion) that talk about killing infidels and other crazy stuff. How come you're not doing that?

It seems to me that you think that religions consist of ONLY one sect and does not evolve.

I am not sure where you get your information from. I am not supposed to take or give interest. I dont. So I am in accordance with the teachings of the Quran.

There's no such stuff in the Quran about simply "killing infidels". Please do not spread misinformation if you are not well-versed in what you are speaking about. That would be well appreciated.

Like I said, I'm just making up crazy stuff that can be found in every religious text. I'm sure that there are many things in there that you're not following.

You are not in accordance with Islam's teachings. You're taking it piecewise, just accepting the things that suit you. You should only be dealing with Islamic banking systems.

What in the world are you talking about?

You're accusing me of not following my religion without any basis whatsoever. I already told you, I do not give or take interest. Therefore I am in accordance with the teaching of the Quran. The Quran does not have a mention of an "Islamic Bank".

Up till this post, you were speaking in quite a civil manner. Wonder why you chose to post such an accusatory and ridiculous post now? :confused:
 

Sultan

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Originally posted by: CanOWorms
Originally posted by: Sultan
Originally posted by: CanOWorms
Islam itself is inherently piecewise when it was first created. Isn't it an Abrahamic religion? Seems that it came after Judaism and Christianity. Hmmmm...

Obviously Christianity needed corrections if it led its followers to believe that the Sun revolves around the Earth :roll:

I speak from the information you provided and I cannot say what was/is wrong with either of the religious teaching you mentioned.

So you agree that Islam itself is inherently piecewise? Then why criticize Atithi?

Wrong. I never stated that Islam is piecewise. I didnt agree to anything at all. But now I am stating that I do agree that it is part of the Abrahamic faith and was sent to correct the people just like Jesus came to correct the people in his time.
 
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Originally posted by: Astaroth33
Originally posted by: RabidMongoose
Originally posted by: Astaroth33
Islam is a sick culture that contributes NOTHING to the human condition. The people that perform these barbaric actions deserve to be exterminated like the vermin that they are. Nothing more, nothing less.

There is a seat waiting for you beside your fellow hater Sultan. You two are so similar in hate that it is scary.

Similar in hate? Maybe... But not similar in terms of bigotry and ignorance. My stance is very simple: I just hate people who are willing to behead people, fly planes into buildings, blow themselves up, etc., all because they hate my way of life.

Oh..if you only hate people that want to blow others up and stuff then that's OK. That is nothing like Sultan, who hates anyone and anything that is not Muslim.
 

CanOWorms

Lifer
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Originally posted by: Sultan
Originally posted by: CanOWorms
Originally posted by: Sultan
It looks piecewise to me. You should only be taking part with an Islamic bank. You're patronizing institutions that make money off of interest. I wonder if you have any credit cards, student loans, etc.

I'm sure that I can pick crazy quotes from Islamic texts (just like with any religion) that talk about killing infidels and other crazy stuff. How come you're not doing that?

It seems to me that you think that religions consist of ONLY one sect and does not evolve.

I am not sure where you get your information from. I am not supposed to take or give interest. I dont. So I am in accordance with the teachings of the Quran.

There's no such stuff in the Quran about simply "killing infidels". Please do not spread misinformation if you are not well-versed in what you are speaking about. That would be well appreciated.

Like I said, I'm just making up crazy stuff that can be found in every religious text. I'm sure that there are many things in there that you're not following.

You are not in accordance with Islam's teachings. You're taking it piecewise, just accepting the things that suit you. You should only be dealing with Islamic banking systems.

What in the world are you talking about?

You're accusing me of not following my religion without any basis whatsoever. I already told you, I do not give or take interest. Therefore I am in accordance with the teaching of the Quran. The Quran does not have a mention of an "Islamic Bank".

Up till this post, you were speaking in quite a civil manner. Wonder why you chose to post such an accusatory and ridiculous post now? :confused:

I'm not being ridiculous. You are accusing Atithi of what you are yourself. You are selectively choosing pieces from Islam. You should be only dealing with Islamic banks, banks that follow Islamic guidelines. Even Islam itself is piecewise since it descended from the Abrahamic religions. Just like how you said Islam was made to 'correct' Christianity because of the belief that the universe revovles around the earth, the religion evolved and the people do not practice Sati.

Like I said before too, it seems that you believe that religions are stuck in time and that there are no sects within any religion.
 

Sultan

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Originally posted by: RabidMongoose
Originally posted by: Astaroth33
Originally posted by: RabidMongoose
Originally posted by: Astaroth33
Islam is a sick culture that contributes NOTHING to the human condition. The people that perform these barbaric actions deserve to be exterminated like the vermin that they are. Nothing more, nothing less.

There is a seat waiting for you beside your fellow hater Sultan. You two are so similar in hate that it is scary.

Similar in hate? Maybe... But not similar in terms of bigotry and ignorance. My stance is very simple: I just hate people who are willing to behead people, fly planes into buildings, blow themselves up, etc., all because they hate my way of life.

Oh..if you only hate people that want to blow others up and stuff then that's OK. That is nothing like Sultan, who hates anyone and anything that is not Muslim.

didnt you post something that translated to Sultan is quite fond of Jews? :)
 
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Originally posted by: Sultan
Originally posted by: RabidMongoose
Originally posted by: Astaroth33
Originally posted by: RabidMongoose
Originally posted by: Astaroth33
Islam is a sick culture that contributes NOTHING to the human condition. The people that perform these barbaric actions deserve to be exterminated like the vermin that they are. Nothing more, nothing less.

There is a seat waiting for you beside your fellow hater Sultan. You two are so similar in hate that it is scary.

Similar in hate? Maybe... But not similar in terms of bigotry and ignorance. My stance is very simple: I just hate people who are willing to behead people, fly planes into buildings, blow themselves up, etc., all because they hate my way of life.

Oh..if you only hate people that want to blow others up and stuff then that's OK. That is nothing like Sultan, who hates anyone and anything that is not Muslim.

didnt you post something that translated to Sultan is quite fond of Jews? :)

Didn't you post something about wanting to tax non-Muslims and willing to kill your own children?

You can try to lie on these forums and deceive people at times, but your true colors eventually come out.

I can't even imagine what kind of hatred you hold for Jewish people...I mean..they're not Muslim!
 

Sultan

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I'm not being ridiculous. You are accusing Atithi of what you are yourself. You are selectively choosing pieces from Islam. You should be only dealing with Islamic banks, banks that follow Islamic guidelines. Even Islam itself is piecewise since it descended from the Abrahamic religions.

What a stupid argument. How am I selectively choosing pieces of Islam? You mentioned interest, I answered it.

There's no concept of "Islamic bank" in the Quran. When you find that the Quran teaches the followers on the guidelines to open and operate an Islamic Bank, please let me know. Neither does the Quran tell me which bank I can or cannot put my money in. The Quran says dont take interest, dont give interest. Simple. Is that really that hard for you to understand?

How does Islam being an Abrahamic faith make it piecewise? Does that mean only the Torah is a whole and all other Abrahamic faiths are piecewise?
 

Sultan

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Didn't you post something about wanting to tax non-Muslims and willing to kill your own children?

You can try to lie on these forums and deceive people at times, but your true colors eventually come out.

I can't even imagine what kind of hatred you hold for Jewish people...I mean..they're not Muslim!

Does the above translate into a yes or a no to my question? :)
 
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Originally posted by: Sultan
Didn't you post something about wanting to tax non-Muslims and willing to kill your own children?

You can try to lie on these forums and deceive people at times, but your true colors eventually come out.

I can't even imagine what kind of hatred you hold for Jewish people...I mean..they're not Muslim!

Does the above translate into a yes or a no to my question? :)

That would be a no. Your deception is now apparent. I was a fool to think you were genuine at the time. Your bigotry is now clearly apparent.
 

CanOWorms

Lifer
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Originally posted by: Sultan
I'm not being ridiculous. You are accusing Atithi of what you are yourself. You are selectively choosing pieces from Islam. You should be only dealing with Islamic banks, banks that follow Islamic guidelines. Even Islam itself is piecewise since it descended from the Abrahamic religions.

What a stupid argument. How am I selectively choosing pieces of Islam? You mentioned interest, I answered it.

There's no concept of "Islamic bank" in the Quran. When you find that the Quran teaches the followers on the guidelines to open and operate an Islamic Bank, please let me know. Neither does the Quran tell me which bank I can or cannot put my money in. The Quran says dont take interest, dont give interest. Simple. Is that really that hard for you to understand?

Well then it looks like you're selectively choosing to follow Islam piecewise. You should only be dealing with Islamic banks as they follow the rules in the Quran.

How does Islam being an Abrahamic faith make it piecewise? Does that mean only the Torah is a whole and all other Abrahamic faiths are piecewise?

Is it really that difficult to understand? It came afterwards, selectively choosing what it decided to put in the religion.
 

Sultan

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Originally posted by: RabidMongoose
Originally posted by: Sultan
Didn't you post something about wanting to tax non-Muslims and willing to kill your own children?

You can try to lie on these forums and deceive people at times, but your true colors eventually come out.

I can't even imagine what kind of hatred you hold for Jewish people...I mean..they're not Muslim!

Does the above translate into a yes or a no to my question? :)

That would be a no. Your deception is now apparent. I was a fool to think you were genuine at the time. Your bigotry is now clearly apparent.

Interesting, I wonder who did then. You're quite a hostile person. I just asked a question and you term that as a deception :)
 
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Originally posted by: Sultan
Originally posted by: RabidMongoose
Originally posted by: Sultan
Didn't you post something about wanting to tax non-Muslims and willing to kill your own children?

You can try to lie on these forums and deceive people at times, but your true colors eventually come out.

I can't even imagine what kind of hatred you hold for Jewish people...I mean..they're not Muslim!

Does the above translate into a yes or a no to my question? :)

That would be a no. Your deception is now apparent. I was a fool to think you were genuine at the time. Your bigotry is now clearly apparent.

Interesting, I wonder who did then. You're quite a hostile person. I just asked a question and you term that as a deception :)

No, I'm saying your facade at the time was a deception that fooled me.

I'm hostile? Sorry, but I think someone that will murder his children is pretty hostile.
 

Sultan

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Originally posted by: RabidMongoose
Originally posted by: Sultan
Originally posted by: RabidMongoose
Originally posted by: Sultan
Didn't you post something about wanting to tax non-Muslims and willing to kill your own children?

You can try to lie on these forums and deceive people at times, but your true colors eventually come out.

I can't even imagine what kind of hatred you hold for Jewish people...I mean..they're not Muslim!

Does the above translate into a yes or a no to my question? :)

That would be a no. Your deception is now apparent. I was a fool to think you were genuine at the time. Your bigotry is now clearly apparent.

Interesting, I wonder who did then. You're quite a hostile person. I just asked a question and you term that as a deception :)

No, I'm saying your facade at the time was a deception that fooled me.

I'm hostile? Sorry, but I think someone that will murder his children is pretty hostile.

I will punish an adulteror. According to the laws laid down by my religion. You term that hostile. I dont :)