how should I approach my boss ***update 2 - request denied

[gigapet]

as the subject line says. How should I go about awsking.

 

[Horus]

What is Defcon 13, and why should you be paid to attend?

Oh, n/m I googled it. You want your boss to pay for you to attend a hacking convention? Only if you work for a tech company/Computer magazine, can I see that happening.

 

[mcvickj]

How is it going to benefit the company?

 

[sonz70]

You as it as your jumpstart to a new career in the security field

 

[Leper Messiah]

Hmm. I do work for a computing/networking company. Mebbe I should take a business trip to defcon.

Tell her/him/it that you're doing undercover work, and the best way to prevent an attack or infiltration is to know the enemy's tatics. Crap like that.

 

[gigapet]

Originally posted by: mcvickj
How is it going to benefit the company?

I work for corporate IT. The speakers at the conference discuss alot of cutting edge issues. Its not 100% about hacking.

 

[Czar]

they do have the game "spot the fbi agient"

 

[hevnsnt]

I just asked.. (several months ago mind you)

They are sending me to Blackhat & Defcon!

 

[gigapet]

Originally posted by: hevnsnt
I just asked.. (several months ago mind you)

They are sending me to Blackhat & Defcon!

how did you bring it up?

I just dont want to come out and say.....yeah so send me to vegas for this hacking convention......not sure that will get the response Im looking for.

 

[hevnsnt]

I told them that I was very interested in going to the Blackhat briefings. I work in the security field for a HUGE company -- So I told them by us not visiting Blackhat/defcon we are opening ourselves up to the next "hacks" and it would be beneficial for us to be represented there. They kinda wavered a little and I told them.. "If you dont send me, I am going to need those days off for training, because I will pay myself. I think we really need to be attending those confs" he said "Go ahead and submit for it then, we will see what the director says"

one week later, I had my approval.

 

[gigapet]

Originally posted by: hevnsnt
I told them that I was very interested in going to the Blackhat briefings. I work in the security field for a HUGE company -- So I told them by us not visiting Blackhat/defcon we are opening ourselves up to the next "hacks" and it would be beneficial for us to be represented there. They kinda wavered a little and I told them.. "If you dont send me, I am going to need those days off for training, because I will pay myself. I think we really need to be attending those confs" he said "Go ahead and submit for it then, we will see what the director says"

one week later, I had my approval.

Maybe I should pitch as a computer security and emerging technology conferance instead of a "hacker convention"

 

[hevnsnt]

tell them that security is in your 5 year plan.. I would pitch blackhat before defcon..

 

[gigapet]

send my boss. tell me what you think


Boss,

 

[hevnsnt]

Sounds very good, but I would emphasize that IT Security is part of your personal career track/learning goals.. That is if you havent already sent it.. If you have, then if they call you in to discuss, hit that as a point.

If you do get to go, I will give ya an I-hacked T-shirt!

 

[gigapet]

sent it off......keeping my fingers crossed ;0

 

[cliftonite]

good luck man

 

[hevnsnt]

any answer yet?

 

[gigapet]

Originally posted by: hevnsnt
any answer yet?

no I haven't recieved the "read reciept" yet either.

However I did pick a good time to ask as she just sent me good praise on the requirements document I drafted up last week.

 

[hevnsnt]

sweet.. hope you get to go

 

[MikeyIs4Dcats]

I would maybe downplay the fact it is in Vegas....might see that and assume you just want to play....

 

[Mo0o]

Originally posted by: MikeyIs4Dcats
I would maybe downplay the fact it is in Vegas....might see that and assume you just want to play....

It would be kind of ambiguous to just say Nevada. And a sh1tload of conventions are held in LV so it's not like he picked intentionally picked LV and chose a random convention

 

[gigapet]

Originally posted by: Mo0o

Originally posted by: MikeyIs4Dcats
I would maybe downplay the fact it is in Vegas....might see that and assume you just want to play....

It would be kind of ambiguous to just say Nevada. And a sh1tload of conventions are held in LV so it's not like he picked intentionally picked LV and chose a random convention

yeah, the location of this would not be the deciding factor for if I can attend.

Anyways, i got the email read reciept 40 minutes ago. That doesnt mean much though as she gets about 200 emails an hour.

 

[JOHNGALT99]

I am going to defcon and work is paying

Is there a topic being talked about there that they would be interested in?

If you end up getting to go send me a PM

 

[gigapet]

 

[loic2003]

Originally posted by: gigapet
my request was denied.

<quake 3 voice> DENIED!</quake 3 voice.


Unlucky, mate.