How photos and video change the world.......

edro

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You know how old photographs are basically dying away and the only way to restore them is to scan them and photochop them? Well, digital photos pretty much stay around forever.

When you hear about history (100+ years ago), there aren't many pictures to back up the lesson (or story or whatever).

In 100+ years from, we will still have all the "antique" photos that we are taking now..... So everyone will be able to see what life was like today....

I don't really know where I am going with this...... but it is just weird to think about.

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Goes for video too....
 

Viper GTS

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File formats change much faster than film deteriorates.

100 years from now people will say "JPG? WTF is that?"

Photographs require only light to remain useful.

Viper GTS
 

Vic

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Originally posted by: Viper GTS
File formats change much faster than film deteriorates.

100 years from now people will say "JPG? WTF is that?"

Photographs require only light to remain useful.

Viper GTS
Exactly what I was thinking. Compatibility fades much faster than an old picture.
 

Marshallj

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But there will SURELY be ways to convert the pictures into the new file format. Who'd make a new file file format that isn't at all compatible with the HUGE stockpile of Jpegs?
 

911paramedic

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Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: Viper GTS
File formats change much faster than film deteriorates.

100 years from now people will say "JPG? WTF is that?"

Photographs require only light to remain useful.

Viper GTS
Exactly what I was thinking. Compatibility fades much faster than an old picture.
"PC Load Letter, WTF is PC Load Letter?"

 

Marshallj

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Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: Viper GTS
File formats change much faster than film deteriorates.

100 years from now people will say "JPG? WTF is that?"

Photographs require only light to remain useful.

Viper GTS
Exactly what I was thinking. Compatibility fades much faster than an old picture.

You'd be wrong then. There will always be ways to convert digital information.
 

Wallydraigle

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A hundred years is a long time for computers and file formats and whatnot. I really doubt the JPEG or TIFF formats will still be around in the year 2103. If your great-great grandchildren find a box full of shiny disks in the family's hyperspace storage bin, they probably wouldn't even know what to do with them, even if they could still get ahold of a working CD-ROM drive and an antique computer to read them. It's quite possible that the old slides and negatives will outlive today's digital files.
 

Marshallj

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Necessity is the mother of invention. If something is needed, someone will find a way to make it work. The things that you see become archaic and fade away are things which were no longer useful.
 

OREOSpeedwagon

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Originally posted by: 911paramedic
Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: Viper GTS
File formats change much faster than film deteriorates.

100 years from now people will say "JPG? WTF is that?"

Photographs require only light to remain useful.

Viper GTS
Exactly what I was thinking. Compatibility fades much faster than an old picture.
"PC Load Letter, WTF is PC Load Letter?"

It's "PC Load Letter, wtf does that mean?" :p

 

Marshallj

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Originally posted by: lirion
A hundred years is a long time for computers and file formats and whatnot. I really doubt the JPEG or TIFF formats will still be around in the year 2103. If your great-great grandchildren find a box full of shiny disks in the fmaily's hyperspace storage bin, they probably wouldn't even know what to do with them, even if they could still get ahold of a working CD-ROM drive and an antique computer to read them. It's quite possible that the old slides and negatives will outlive today's digital files.


The information on an aging photograph is being destroyed, while digital information does not fade away. As long as you have somebody who wants to view old jpeg pictures, a demand will be there, and there will be ways to convert it.

gif's aren't used for pictures too much anymore, but there are still ways to convert gif's to jpegs.
 

Marshallj

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Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
Give up JPEG? The online pr0n industry has far too much ... ahem ... "stock" in them :p

- M4H

Exactly. Nobody is going to abandon the huge stock of existing photos. If a new format comes out, one of the first things to hit the market will be conversion tools.
 

edro

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I take TONS of digital photos..... should I burn them on a DVD-R and vaccum seal it and throw it in the safety deposit box? :D I am thinking about it.
 

edro

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Originally posted by: pulse8
Pictures have been around longer than 100 years.

But they sucked back in the mid 1800's, therefore I didn;t include them in my estimate.
 

NogginBoink

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Originally posted by: lirion
A hundred years is a long time for computers and file formats and whatnot. I really doubt the JPEG or TIFF formats will still be around in the year 2103. If your great-great grandchildren find a box full of shiny disks in the family's hyperspace storage bin, they probably wouldn't even know what to do with them, even if they could still get ahold of a working CD-ROM drive and an antique computer to read them. It's quite possible that the old slides and negatives will outlive today's digital files.

There's the rub.

Companies are already finding it impossible to access archival data that was stored on 9-track tape.
 

pulse8

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Originally posted by: edro13
Originally posted by: pulse8
Pictures have been around longer than 100 years.

But they sucked back in the mid 1800's, therefore I didn;t include them in my estimate.

They weren't all bad and a lot of them documented some things pretty well.
 

Vic

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Originally posted by: Marshallj
Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: Viper GTS
File formats change much faster than film deteriorates.

100 years from now people will say "JPG? WTF is that?"

Photographs require only light to remain useful.

Viper GTS
Exactly what I was thinking. Compatibility fades much faster than an old picture.

You'd be wrong then. There will always be ways to convert digital information.
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Did ways exist to convert digital information like this 100 years ago? Or even 10 years ago? Don't say "always" when referring to something that's more or less just been invented. If you want for your legacy to "always" exist, build a 400-foot-high pyramid, 'cause otherwise you take your chances.
 

DaveSimmons

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Companies are already finding it impossible to access archival data that was stored on 9-track tape.
two key differences:
(a) people can learn from their mistakes and are more aware of the problem now
(b) there were thousands of 9-track readers, versus literally hundreds of millions of CD readers.

So photos on Zip and Jazz carts might be lost forever, but photos on CDs and DVDs will still be readable next century as long as the disc hasn't deteriorated too badly.