How on Earth can Latinos support Trump?

[HamburgerBoy]

It isn't just Latinos, it's Asians and Blacks too and they sometimes don't realize it till its too late.

It's sorta like Bobby Jindal..

How many illegal African immigrants are here?

 

[fskimospy]

Yeah, a ucla study authored by a Latino is really going to be objective...

Lol. So you're discounting a study from one of the more prestigious universities in the US in substantial part because of the race of the individual who made it.

You fucking racist.

 

[BxgJ]

Just go sit in the corner and sing this to yourself. It'll make your feel better and everybody will get along while the left shits rainbows and rides unicorns.


Kumbaya my lord, Kumbaya
Kumbaya my lord, Kumbaya
Kumbaya my lord, Kumbaya
O Lord Kumbaya

Kumbaya my lord, Kumbaya
Kumbaya my lord, Kumbaya
Kumbaya my lord, Kumbaya
O Lord Kumbaya

For the sun that rises in the sky
For the rythm of the falling rain
For all life, great or small
For all that's true, for all you do

Kumbaya my lord, Kumbaya
Kumbaya my lord, Kumbaya
Kumbaya my lord, Kumbaya
O Lord Kumbaya

For one second on this world you made
For the love that will never fade
For a heart beating with joy
For all that's real, for all we feel

Kumbaya my lord, Kumbaya
Kumbaya my lord, Kumbaya
Kumbaya my lord, Kumbaya
O Lord Kumbaya

Kumbaya my lord, Kumbaya
Kumbaya my lord, Kumbaya
Kumbaya my lord, Kumbaya
O Lord Kumbaya
O Lord Kumbaya, Kumbaya

Was it really necessary to type all that out? You could have simply said this.

Just go sit in the corner and sing Kumbaya to yourself. It'll make your feel better and everybody will get along while the left shits rainbows and rides unicorns.

 

[Moonbeam]

..........asshole.

............You fucking racist.

So hard to decide. So much merit in both.

 

[HamburgerBoy]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...n-beautiful ray of sunshine-was-anything-but/

So, you were saying?

Seems kind of semantic. Regardless of whether it was "Operation beautiful ray of sunshine" itself or unrelated US border patrol efforts, they had still deported at least a million illegal immigrants, in the hundreds of thousands per year in the first half of the 50s.

EDIT: I mean, the article goes so far as to say that Operation beautiful ray of sunshine was nothing original and just a new name for something that had already been going on for a decade. So you could say Trump was wrong to give Eisenhower all the glory, sure, but that doesn't change the efficacy of the program.

 

[alcoholbob]

Seems kind of semantic. Regardless of whether it was "Operation beautiful ray of sunshine" itself or unrelated US border patrol efforts, they had still deported at least a million illegal immigrants, in the hundreds of thousands per year in the first half of the 50s.

EDIT: I mean, the article goes so far as to say that Operation beautiful ray of sunshine was nothing original and just a new name for something that had already been going on for a decade. So you could say Trump was wrong to give Eisenhower all the glory, sure, but that doesn't change the efficacy of the program.

The programs were also more successful in the past because illegal immigration was causing a labor shortage in Mexico and the Mexican government (at the time) desperately wanted to be a powerful industrialized nation like the European powers and were expending quite a large amount of resources to prevent, capture, and also re-admitting illegals that left for the US. However things have changed over time, and the sheer of amount of remittances from illegal immigrants from Mexico in the US now makes up a sizeable portion of Mexico's government revenue. The Mexican government has essentially been corrupted by the money flows and instead of having Mexico's interest in their fore-front, they instead are lining their own pockets.

 

[Zor Prime]

I know Latino's that hate illegal immigrants. Wouldn't put it past them they'd be all-for Trump.

 

[Victorian Gray]

So hard to decide. So much merit in both.

Six of one and a half dozen of the other?

 

[DucatiMonster696]

Because, you know, some of them support something called *THE LAW* and *SOVEREIGNTY*. Many see the illegals as getting a free pass for something others *ACHIEVED*. Most bleeding heart liberals don't give a fuck about achievement, mainly because they want everything handed to them. Thus they don't care about somebody else taking something for free.

+1, not everyone who is Latino (or any other non-white race) is someone who rejects rule of law for political party ideology reminiscent to lockstep and drone like like behavior.

 

[DucatiMonster696]

I doubt the wall is the solution either. Remember after Cesar Chavez negotiated for the wage hikes back in the 1960s most think tanks in this country had the US pegged to have a fully mechanized farming industry by 1975.

Cesar Chavez did not think highly of illegals and he wanted them deported because in his experience they were frequently employed to undermine the power of the UFW (United Farm Workers) union to negotiate which then eroded the gains made on wages and benefits for legal farm laborers.

He (via his cousin a UFW member) even paid fellow union members to do what was termed as "wet lines" which were border patrols by UFW members to confront and verbally dissuade illegals from entering the US when they were encounter on the border.

"Probably the most severe example came in the form of the so-called “wet lines.” As Miriam Pawel, a Pulitzer-winning editor and longtime journalist with Newsday and the Los Angeles Times, notes in “The Crusades of Cesar Chavez,” the wet lines were set up by Chavez’s close cousin Manuel, who in 1974 paid about three hundred United Farm Worker members to patrol a stretch of the border between Yuma, Arizona and San Luis, Mexico. They were intended to intercept unauthorized crossers en route and persuade them to turn back, thereby forcing the hand of lemon growers who were resisting a UFW strike for contracts. “If we can get the illegals out of California,” he would often say, “we will win the strike overnight.”

http://www.latintimes.com/cesar-cha...aign-dark-side-latino-icons-opposition-162528

 

[Darwin333]

You don't have to turn it into a police state, you just have to levy draconian punishments and then threaten mass incarceration of millions of people.

Do you even read what you write? Lol.

By the way I would love to see your example of a quick and efficient deportation of millions.

While I agree that going after the employers is the way to go but at the rate regular Americans are being locked up I don't know if I'd have much pity for criminals illegally in this country being locked up.

 

[DucatiMonster696]

Was it really necessary to type all that out? You could have simply said this.

LoL I'm pretty sure ctrl-c followed by ctrl-v made it short work.

 

[compuwiz1]

The liberal media tells us that we must believe Hispanics hate Trump, so therefore some people believe what they're told. My truth is that I know several Latinos who don't hate Trump at all, in fact they like him. Legals don't like illegal immigration much more than we do. They consider it a slap in the face to those who immigrated legally. To believe everyone in the Latino community is against Trump is just stupid and naive. But, you know....being against illegal immigration is racist, according to liberals.

 

[buckshot24]

The liberal media tells us that we must believe Hispanics hate Trump, so therefore some people believe what they're told. My truth is that I know several Latinos who don't hate Trump at all, in fact they like him. Legals don't like illegal immigration much more than we do. They consider it a slap in the face to those who immigrated legally. To believe everyone in the Latino community is against Trump is just stupid and naive. But, you know....being against illegal immigration is racist, according to liberals.

Isn't it racist to even suggest that a race should believe one thing over the other?

 

[compuwiz1]

Isn't it racist to even suggest that a race should believe one thing over the other?

Probably, but hell, I'm not going to walk on eggshells about it.

 

[Bowfinger]

Probably, but hell, I'm not going to walk on eggshells about it.

It's not really racist to suggest people in a group are likely to dislike someone who says their group is rapists, drug dealers, and criminals. Oh yeah, and some of them he assumes are good people. It was an extremely insulting comment, regardless of whether the group was defined by race, location, occupation, or club membership. This may be mitigated somewhat because most people know Trump is a blowhard who deliberately makes outrageous comments to get headlines and pander to the lunatic fringe of his party.

 

[Slew Foot]

<liberal> "i hate wall street, bribery, polictical cronyism, and liars. Im voting for Hilary Clinton!"</liberal>

 

[cKGunslinger]

Because, you know, some of them support something called *THE LAW* and *SOVEREIGNTY*. Many see the illegals as getting a free pass for something others *ACHIEVED*. Most bleeding heart liberals don't give a fuck about achievement, mainly because they want everything handed to them. Thus they don't care about somebody else taking something for free.

Are you suggesting that being born 10 miles north of some arbitrary map-line as opposed to 10 miles south of it is an "ACHIEVEMENT?" Way to set that bar high, fellow American!

 

[buckshot24]

It's not really racist to suggest people in a group are likely to dislike someone who says their group is rapists, drug dealers, and criminals.

If that is what you heard then you're doing it wrong. Even if he did believe that he'd have to be some kind of insane or stupid to actually say it.

 

[Matthiasa]

I suspect It fall towards more traditional breakdown where most will vote for the democratic nomination. No more than 1/3 will vote for him and that is being very generous.

 

[adamantine.me]

Are you suggesting that being born 10 miles north of some arbitrary map-line as opposed to 10 miles south of it is an "ACHIEVEMENT?" Way to set that bar high, fellow American!

Plus, the law is absolute, and any transgression is always immoral. Doesn't everyone do a complete stop at stop signs?

Or are you suggesting some people actually have a moral compass of their own?

Besides, contrary to what is being, uh, vomited up here, the border patrol and deportation process is anything but efficient. IIRC, someone actually investigated the process and made a documentary showing how hopelessly convoluted the process was.

 

[compuwiz1]

It's not really racist to suggest people in a group are likely to dislike someone who says their group is rapists, drug dealers, and criminals. Oh yeah, and some of them he assumes are good people. It was an extremely insulting comment, regardless of whether the group was defined by race, location, occupation, or club membership. This may be mitigated somewhat because most people know Trump is a blowhard who deliberately makes outrageous comments to get headlines and pander to the lunatic fringe of his party.

Well, those who are capable understood exactly which types of illegals he was talking about. And there are rapists, drug dealers, murderers and other criminals in that group. Some are good people. Yes, people hate to hear the truth. Here is a sample, the jail roster from where I just moved from. You go through and find the names and look at what they were arrested for. You will see a ton of Hispanic surnames in that list...a disproportionate number. It won't take you long.

http://jail.co.franklin.wa.us/InmateList/daily_in_custody_report.pdf

While you're reading that, notice all the ICE holds. Guess what? They don't get held. Many of these guys get right back out and repeat. Sanctuary cities. Our communities have been heavily victimized by illegals. So, forgive me if we don't like them very much.

 

[Bowfinger]

If that is what you heard then you're doing it wrong. Even if he did believe that he'd have to be some kind of insane or stupid to actually say it.

Well, those who are capable understood exactly which types of illegals he was talking about. And there are rapists, drug dealers, murderers and other criminals in that group. Some are good people. Yes, people hate to hear the truth. Here is a sample, the jail roster from where I just moved from. You go through and find the names and look at what they were arrested for. You will see a ton of Hispanic surnames in that list...a disproportionate number. It won't take you long.

http://jail.co.franklin.wa.us/InmateList/daily_in_custody_report.pdf

While you're reading that, notice all the ICE holds. Guess what? They don't get held. Many of these guys get right back out and repeat. Sanctuary cities. Our communities have been heavily victimized by illegals. So, forgive me if we don't like them very much.

Yes, Trump apologists are skilled at selectively parsing his words to spin them as somehow less offensive. Nonetheless, most Americans aren't devoted to defending Trump. They heard his message exactly as he intended it, as an over-the-top denunciation of Mexicans. It played well with the racists on the lunatic fringe.

 

[buckshot24]

Yes, Trump apologists are skilled at selectively parsing his words to spin them as somehow less offensive. Nonetheless, most Americans aren't devoted to defending Trump. They heard his message exactly as he intended it, as an over-the-top denunciation of Mexicans. It played well with the racists on the lunatic fringe.

If I thought he was calling all Mexican's rapists, I'd be up in arms standing against him. Trump would have to be a complete idiot to say what you think he said. Or insane.

How do you know how he intended it?

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

If I thought he was calling all Mexican's rapists, I'd be up in arms standing against him. Trump would have to be a complete idiot to say what you think he said. Or insane.

How do you know how he intended it?

As long as it's just some and not all, then it's ok. Good baseline to work from. Thanks.