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How often to workout same body part per week?

gzervali2006

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How often do you guys workout the same body part per week? I usually do 1 or 2 ab exercises everyday but on the ab days i really kill it. What I usually do is this below. Not sure if its enough?

Day 1: Arms (Triceps & Biceps)
Day 2: Cardio + ABS
Day 3: Chest + Back
Day 4: Legs
Day 5: Nothing
Day 6: Total Body Workout
Day 7: Cardio + Abs
 
I think a lot of it will depend on what type of routine you're going with, and what your goals are (e.g., powerlifting vs. endurance training vs. bodybuilding).

Personally, I go with a bodybuilding-type split, so I hit one muscle group per day (with the exception of biceps/triceps, which I work on the same day), five days a week. At the moment, it looks something like this:

Sunday: Shoulders
Monday: Arms
Tuesday: Legs
Wednesday: Off
Thursday: Chest
Friday: Back
Saturday: Off

I work abs pretty much everyday that I'm at the gym, although I may start throwing in some heavily-weighted ab exercises once or twice per week.
 
Utilizing an SS-like program, I try to squat three times a week. Essentially, you need to give your body a day of recovery. Once you do that, you can lift for that same muscle group again.
 
I think a lot of it will depend on what type of routine you're going with, and what your goals are (e.g., powerlifting vs. endurance training vs. bodybuilding).

Personally, I go with a bodybuilding-type split, so I hit one muscle group per day (with the exception of biceps/triceps, which I work on the same day), five days a week. At the moment, it looks something like this:

Sunday: Shoulders
Monday: Arms
Tuesday: Legs
Wednesday: Off
Thursday: Chest
Friday: Back
Saturday: Off

I work abs pretty much everyday that I'm at the gym, although I may start throwing in some heavily-weighted ab exercises once or twice per week.

Biceps should be same day as Back...

Triceps same day as chest.
 
Biceps should be same day as Back...

Triceps same day as chest.

I prefer not to hit the supplemental muscle group on the same day as the primary group. That way, at least in theory, the supplemental groups are getting worked out twice a week. This allows me to keep my arm workouts relatively short.

I've done triceps/chest and bicep/back, and wasn't a big fan. Have also done chest/biceps and shoulders/triceps, and while it worked better for me than the other split, it lead to workouts that were entirely too long.

Having arms on its own day is what's ended up working out best for me.

Edit: Although I've had a slight fever for the past two days, so that's gonna end up throwing things out of whack for a bit. Hate getting sick, especially when the weather finally turns nice again.
 
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I prefer not to hit the supplemental muscle group on the same day as the primary group. That way, at least in theory, the supplemental groups are getting worked out twice a week. This allows me to keep my arm workouts relatively short.

I've done triceps/chest and bicep/back, and wasn't a big fan. Have also done chest/biceps and shoulders/triceps, and while it worked better for me than the other split, it lead to workouts that were entirely too long.

Having arms on its own day is what's ended up working out best for me.

Edit: Although I've had a slight fever for the past two days, so that's gonna end up throwing things out of whack for a bit. Hate getting sick, especially when the weather finally turns nice again.

Your arms get worked out every single day you do upper body. Can you imagine trying to do any exercise not involving your arms when you are not doing lower body workout?

IMO it is overtraining - arms are probably the most overtrained part of any body. Plus, if your arms recovering, it will limit your other lifts. If your triceps are recovering, your chest will be limited. If you are biceps are recovery, your back will be limited.

Forearms are the only part I can see doing multiple times a week, they are very resistant to overtraining and most often undertrained.
 
Your arms get worked out every single day you do upper body. Can you imagine trying to do any exercise not involving your arms when you are not doing lower body workout?

IMO it is overtraining - arms are probably the most overtrained part of any body. Plus, if your arms recovering, it will limit your other lifts. If your triceps are recovering, your chest will be limited. If you are biceps are recovery, your back will be limited.

Forearms are the only part I can see doing multiple times a week, they are very resistant to overtraining and most often undertrained.

I've tried various routines in the past, and this is the one that works best for me. It might be bordering on overtraining, but programs that place less emphasis on my arms result in me losing definition, size, and strength. And beyond that, in my 10 or so years of working out, I've yet to experience any symptoms of overtraining--not the best way to assess whether it's happening, but it's definitely one of many useful metrics.

I do understand and appreciate your point, though. Which is why I tried a variety of routines prior to this one to determine how to obtain the best results for the amount of time I'm willing to commit.
 
I've tried various routines in the past, and this is the one that works best for me. It might be bordering on overtraining, but programs that place less emphasis on my arms result in me losing definition, size, and strength. And beyond that, in my 10 or so years of working out, I've yet to experience any symptoms of overtraining--not the best way to assess whether it's happening, but it's definitely one of many useful metrics.

I do understand and appreciate your point, though. Which is why I tried a variety of routines prior to this one to determine how to obtain the best results for the amount of time I'm willing to commit.

Yep, if it works for you. If you start to slow or stop gains, try something different (more rest is always good).
 
Biceps should be same day as Back...

Triceps same day as chest.

Back when I did a muscle group split, I did chest + biceps, and shoulders + triceps, with back on its own day, and legs on its own day. Worked very well actually. I never liked doing iso exercises for a muscle group the same day that those muscles were a supportive muscle to a movement. If I did bench, then triceps, I felt I wasn't really doing my triceps justice (or vice versa if I did the triceps stuff, then bench). The end result was working the bis/tris twice a week in effect, which especially at that point in my training was definitely not overtraining.

Lately, as I do powerlifitng training, my workouts are tailored towards a movement, not muscle group. I usually go to the gym 3x/week, one day for each of the three lifts (squat/bench/deadlift). Sometimes I'll toss in a 4th day with some various assistance movement that don't get covered in those three.
 
Insanely overtraining... unless you're doing light weights.

Ugh, so much wrong with your replies in this thread, it'll take a while to break this all down for you.

1. First of all, you most likely have your terminology screwed up. "Overtraining" is primarily a central nervous system (CNS) phenomenon and not something related to individual muscle fatigue. It's a result of your CNS being unable to recover from the load/volume of exercise you do, which leads to symptoms such as fatigue, loss of motivation, decreased immune system response, etc. Training the same muscles every day in and of itself does not lead to overtraining. The typical olympic weightlifter, for example, trains ~5+ days per week using the same exercises over and over (clean, jerk, snatch, squat). Many strength training routines involve squatting 3 times per week, not to mention the overlap with deadlift, power cleans, good mornings, etc. In fact, this constant repetition is part of almost every athlete's routine: many runners run every day, soccer players play soccer every day, and so on. As long as these athletes are recovering enough - that is, getting enough sleep, food, rest days, etc - they will not see overtraining symptoms from using the same muscles/exercises over and over.

2. Perhaps what you really meant was that training the whole body multiple times per week might be inefficient because your muscles might not recover enough by the next workout. This is the assumption of most bodybuilding split routines but in reality, it is a pile of BS. Muscles are able to recover surprisingly quickly and you don't need to be 100% recovered to train again; every single high level athlete routinely trains while sore and tired. However, if you understand the recovery curve, you'll realize the benefit to this: as part of the recover process, muscles will "supercompensate" in response to training, becoming stronger than before training. The sooner you can train again, the more you can take advantage of this supercompensation, and the more weight you can lift. Repeat this cycle many times and, much like compound interest, you get very rapid gains. Supercompensation happens 12-48 hours after training, depending on genetics, diet, rest, etc. Therefore, waiting a full week before training the muscle again (as you do in a split routine) is VERY inefficient because the wasted time allows the muscle to lose some of the supercompensation, making for slower gains.

3. Obviously, there is a limit to how frequently you can train and how heavy you can go. A lot of it depends on genetics, but in general, as you reach the advanced stages of training and are moving seriously heavy weight, it takes longer to recover from exercise. Only a few people on this forum are anywhere near that stage. For the majority of people, the most efficient training approach is to go as heavy as you can as often as you can for the entire body. How heavy and how often, of course, depends on goals, genetics, diet, etc... But it'll be far more often than once a week for just about everyone.

4. My personal routine involves heavy lifting (squat, deadlift, clean & jerk, snatch, press) followed by a CF metcon (can consist of anything, including more lifting, bodyweight exercises, running, etc) ~3 times per week and endurance workouts (usually running or rowing) followed by skill work (typically gymnastics moves such as pistols, muscle-ups, etc) ~3 times per week. In other words, as I said before, I'm at the gym 5-6 times per week and every single workout typically trains the entire body. And shockingly... I'm not overtraining and still making progress.
 
This is kind of off-topic, but my quads are my only muscle that ever gets sore nowadays, and only the days following squats. Is there a reason for this or a fix, or should I just keep pushing? I would say my squats are fairly weak compared to my other lifts.
 
This is kind of off-topic, but my quads are my only muscle that ever gets sore nowadays, and only the days following squats. Is there a reason for this or a fix, or should I just keep pushing? I would say my squats are fairly weak compared to my other lifts.

I can't seem to make any of my muscles sore anymore even my damn quads.
 
Ugh, so much wrong with your replies in this thread, it'll take a while to break this all down for you.

1. First of all, you most likely have your terminology screwed up. "Overtraining" is primarily a central nervous system (CNS) phenomenon and not something related to individual muscle fatigue. It's a result of your CNS being unable to recover from the load/volume of exercise you do, which leads to symptoms such as fatigue, loss of motivation, decreased immune system response, etc. Training the same muscles every day in and of itself does not lead to overtraining. The typical olympic weightlifter, for example, trains ~5+ days per week using the same exercises over and over (clean, jerk, snatch, squat). Many strength training routines involve squatting 3 times per week, not to mention the overlap with deadlift, power cleans, good mornings, etc. In fact, this constant repetition is part of almost every athlete's routine: many runners run every day, soccer players play soccer every day, and so on. As long as these athletes are recovering enough - that is, getting enough sleep, food, rest days, etc - they will not see overtraining symptoms from using the same muscles/exercises over and over.

2. Perhaps what you really meant was that training the whole body multiple times per week might be inefficient because your muscles might not recover enough by the next workout. This is the assumption of most bodybuilding split routines but in reality, it is a pile of BS. Muscles are able to recover surprisingly quickly and you don't need to be 100% recovered to train again; every single high level athlete routinely trains while sore and tired. However, if you understand the recovery curve, you'll realize the benefit to this: as part of the recover process, muscles will "supercompensate" in response to training, becoming stronger than before training. The sooner you can train again, the more you can take advantage of this supercompensation, and the more weight you can lift. Repeat this cycle many times and, much like compound interest, you get very rapid gains. Supercompensation happens 12-48 hours after training, depending on genetics, diet, rest, etc. Therefore, waiting a full week before training the muscle again (as you do in a split routine) is VERY inefficient because the wasted time allows the muscle to lose some of the supercompensation, making for slower gains.

3. Obviously, there is a limit to how frequently you can train and how heavy you can go. A lot of it depends on genetics, but in general, as you reach the advanced stages of training and are moving seriously heavy weight, it takes longer to recover from exercise. Only a few people on this forum are anywhere near that stage. For the majority of people, the most efficient training approach is to go as heavy as you can as often as you can for the entire body. How heavy and how often, of course, depends on goals, genetics, diet, etc... But it'll be far more often than once a week for just about everyone.

4. My personal routine involves heavy lifting (squat, deadlift, clean & jerk, snatch, press) followed by a CF metcon (can consist of anything, including more lifting, bodyweight exercises, running, etc) ~3 times per week and endurance workouts (usually running or rowing) followed by skill work (typically gymnastics moves such as pistols, muscle-ups, etc) ~3 times per week. In other words, as I said before, I'm at the gym 5-6 times per week and every single workout typically trains the entire body. And shockingly... I'm not overtraining and still making progress.

Blah blah blah blah blah.

IF you're Benching, Pressing, Squatting blah blah 6 times a week. You are overtraining. Period.

If you are doing those things 3 times a week, that's a normal routine.
 
This is kind of off-topic, but my quads are my only muscle that ever gets sore nowadays, and only the days following squats. Is there a reason for this or a fix, or should I just keep pushing? I would say my squats are fairly weak compared to my other lifts.

Soreness isn't necessarily an accurate measure of progress or a good workout. The only true measure is progress - strength, size, etc. Just keep going.

For what its worth...my quads never get sore. In my experience, squats that really work the quads are probably not deep enough. Hows your depth?
 
Blah blah blah blah blah.
You can try to blah blah blah the details away, but you're still wrong.

IF you're Benching, Pressing, Squatting blah blah 6 times a week. You are overtraining. Period.
Not necessarily. It entirely depends on your level of training, genetics, goals, diet, sleep and the exercises/volume/load/intensity you use. For example, the Bulgarian Weightlifting Routine - you know, one of the most dominant countries in olympic weightlifting - has you training not just 6 days per week, but also doing double sessions for a few of those days. Every single session involves cleans, jerks, snatches and tons of squatting. Somehow, this routine produced enormously successful athletes who weren't overtraining.

Does that mean everyone should train like that? Of course not. But it is important to understand that (a) overtraining is not about using the same muscle groups a lot and (b) you can definitely train the same exercises/muscles more than once per week.
 
I usually do 4 to 5 different workouts per muscle group. Is there anything else you guys can recommend perhaps adding to my routine (I play a lot of sports throughout the week but also am consistent in the gym and with my diet). Trying to lose a little bit of lower belly fat and get a bit more cut up while building some lean muscle..

I'm going to look into some newer routines i keep seeing that p90x workout which keeps talking about confusing muscle groups...
 
I'm not totally new to working out but I mean if your trying to get leaner and more cut while building lean muscle mass.. would you do lighter weights and more reps workout regular (for me when i say regular I do between 8-12 reps with 145 lbs on bench etc across the board) or should you be doing heavier weights with like 5x reps etc.

Information is awesome! Thanks guys!
 
You can try to blah blah blah the details away, but you're still wrong.


Not necessarily. It entirely depends on your level of training, genetics, goals, diet, sleep and the exercises/volume/load/intensity you use. For example, the Bulgarian Weightlifting Routine - you know, one of the most dominant countries in olympic weightlifting - has you training not just 6 days per week, but also doing double sessions for a few of those days. Every single session involves cleans, jerks, snatches and tons of squatting. Somehow, this routine produced enormously successful athletes who weren't overtraining.

Does that mean everyone should train like that? Of course not. But it is important to understand that (a) overtraining is not about using the same muscle groups a lot and (b) you can definitely train the same exercises/muscles more than once per week.

If you want to Roid up and follow the leader of the Bulgarians, fine with me. No one said you can't train a muscle more than once a week, but you DID say you train your whole body 5-6 times a week, which is patently over training for 99.99% of all humans, unless, like I said, you do low weights.
 
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