MentalIlness
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zCypher
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When I was 10 years old our family got a puppy. He was a mut, and the only cocker spaniel (+ mix of whatever else) of his litter to have black fur with golden eyebrows and some gold fur on his paws. The rest of the pups were all blonde. At the time he was small enough to fit into the sleeve of my coat, which is where he slept on our way home from picking him up.
That pooch was with us as we grew up. He saw us through elementary, high school, college and several moves. The dog outlived all of his friends... He was put down recently, just a few months ago at about 17 years old (I'm 27 now).
A couple years back he wasn't doing so well and the vet diagnosed him with cancer. He was fed some supplements, liver and more than what most people would spend on his regular dog food. Whether it can be attributed to that or not, he surprisingly overcame his cancer and saw a couple more years. Eventually he wound up completely deaf, almost completely blind, and full of arthritis.
It eventually came a time when it had to be done, or watch him suffer to the end. You could argue that so much $ was spent, but it really depends on perspective. This little guy was really a part of the family, as lame as it might sound.
When we were kids: http://s1081.photobucket.com/albums/j350/marcbyron84/?action=view¤t=Odieigloo.jpg
Just prior to the end: http://s1081.photobucket.com/albums/j350/marcbyron84/?action=view¤t=Odiehopeful.jpg
I suspect I would spend whatever is necessary to keep my current pet going, but there's always a tipping point where you're just making them suffer longer and that's not fair.
That pooch was with us as we grew up. He saw us through elementary, high school, college and several moves. The dog outlived all of his friends... He was put down recently, just a few months ago at about 17 years old (I'm 27 now).
A couple years back he wasn't doing so well and the vet diagnosed him with cancer. He was fed some supplements, liver and more than what most people would spend on his regular dog food. Whether it can be attributed to that or not, he surprisingly overcame his cancer and saw a couple more years. Eventually he wound up completely deaf, almost completely blind, and full of arthritis.
It eventually came a time when it had to be done, or watch him suffer to the end. You could argue that so much $ was spent, but it really depends on perspective. This little guy was really a part of the family, as lame as it might sound.
When we were kids: http://s1081.photobucket.com/albums/j350/marcbyron84/?action=view¤t=Odieigloo.jpg
Just prior to the end: http://s1081.photobucket.com/albums/j350/marcbyron84/?action=view¤t=Odiehopeful.jpg
I suspect I would spend whatever is necessary to keep my current pet going, but there's always a tipping point where you're just making them suffer longer and that's not fair.
alkemyst
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That is sort of insane. $300 or so is just a teeth cleaning. A simple surgery should the dog be bit while playing is usually $600.
If one can't afford to have $1000 to at least care properly for a pet, they shouldn't have one.
Also to others talking about pets as property and "people" want to humanize them. It's not some random thing that was just decided on. The MASSES voted that in due to fucktards abusing their animals.
Dogs and cats show emotion. The argument stems from are they the same feelings a person has. They can be happy, aggravated, sad, etc especially more so as indoor pets. They learn the creature comforts.
It's not blind cause and affect type behavior with food as a goal.
Hell, you're a big spender in my book. But I guess that is why I don't own a dog. If the cost of repairs is more than a new dog, I would trade the old dog in for a BRAND NEW dog. BRAND NEW!
Beyond immunities as a puppy, somewhere near $100 per issue. I am a believer in strays and shelter animals and would NEVER pay for a pure breed animal. As such, I would provide a good life for as long as the animal remains healthy. The occasional medicine or special care is fine but as soon as we hit triple digits, the animal better pull through or it is done.
Currently I am not a pet owner and would hesitate in having any furry indoor critter. If I had plenty of land I would probably own a few outdoor pets.
Currently I am not a pet owner and would hesitate in having any furry indoor critter. If I had plenty of land I would probably own a few outdoor pets.
One of our dogs developed cancer at the age of 10. We spent thousands on surgery, which gave the dog another 9-10 months at most. In retrospect, it was quite pointless.
So it really depends on a lot of stuff. But in general, I would be willing to spend most of my savings, if the dog was still fairly young, and the chance of recovery was quite high.
So it really depends on a lot of stuff. But in general, I would be willing to spend most of my savings, if the dog was still fairly young, and the chance of recovery was quite high.
Zeze
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Hell, you're a big spender in my book. But I guess that is why I don't own a dog. If the cost of repairs is more than a new dog, I would trade the old dog in for a BRAND NEW dog. BRAND NEW!
That's because you don't own a dog, and you don't know.
It's not a product. It becomes your friend, a family member. He/She falls in love with you for 10-15 years, and so do you.
Good luck trying to get rid of your dog after 10 years because you can get a new pup for same cost.
Dogs vs Cats, but I had a cat as a kid. I loved the way it would purr on my lap and run around and everything. I was there when her kidneys failed. We sat down as a family and discussed the options. The cat had a great life, it was a stray and we had it for a good long time. Yes, we could attempt to treat this problem. Yes it might get better. Or we can let it enjoy life for a bit longer and then take it to the vet and put her down. I was there at the end of its life. I was the one who pet it and comforted it while it peed on me as it could no longer control its bladder. I rode with her in the car and was there in the room saying a final goodbye.
And then we found a little kitten a month later.
When I was a REALLY little Possessed, we had dogs at our house in the country. But I don't remember them at all. All I remember is eating their dog food and liking it. A few years ago, my friend was feeding his dogs and the smell brought me back to those days. I asked if I could try a piece. It was the worst thing I have tasted in my life. Bugs flying into my mouth taste better!
Capt Caveman
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Please don't own any animals then. A cut, requiring stitches will cost more than $100. Shots will cost more than $100.
I should have expanded... when I said immunities as a puppy, I mean it as immunities or scheduled shots as required.
But I will take this into consideration, if in the future I feel that I can have an outdoor pet and there is a stray around I will just shoot it. A bullet is definitely cheaper than dog feed.
DrPizza
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Our (3?) year old golden retriever had cancer on his butt. We paid for surgery. Vet wanted to have a sample tested to know for certain the type of cancer. Aggressive form. Vet said, "there's a possibility that it could come back." A few months later, the dog was having a lot of trouble breathing. Took the dog to the vet; he agreed completely with our decision to have the dog put to sleep to end its suffering. (It would only drink if the water was brought to him; wanted to stay laying on his side.) No testing done; in the words of the vet: "I think you're making the right decision. Sure, you could spend a lot of money on testing, and perhaps another surgery that would prolong his life for another month, but you and I know what the diagnosis of those tests is going to be, and the testing and surgery would simply prolong his suffering."
And, I know that Alky isn't going to like me saying this, but dogs and cats are put to sleep every day at shelters. By the thousands. Electing not to pay for an expensive surgery, and instead adopting a new pet simply changes which animal dies. The healthy one survives, the sick one dies. The only difference is the emotional attachment. That's one huge reason why such choices are different than when making those choices with humans. Or to put it on human terms, imagine that every day, they were euthanizing 8 year old kids. A 70 year old, unrelated person who had lived with you for 20 years had cancer. The surgery was going to cost $10,000. You had a choice: pay $10k for the surgery and extend the life of the old person by a few years, or pay little for hospice care, and then adopt an 8 year old who would otherwise have been euthanized. Plus, you'd have a shitload of money left over to possibly do some good for other animals (donate some to the SPCA or something.)
And, I know that Alky isn't going to like me saying this, but dogs and cats are put to sleep every day at shelters. By the thousands. Electing not to pay for an expensive surgery, and instead adopting a new pet simply changes which animal dies. The healthy one survives, the sick one dies. The only difference is the emotional attachment. That's one huge reason why such choices are different than when making those choices with humans. Or to put it on human terms, imagine that every day, they were euthanizing 8 year old kids. A 70 year old, unrelated person who had lived with you for 20 years had cancer. The surgery was going to cost $10,000. You had a choice: pay $10k for the surgery and extend the life of the old person by a few years, or pay little for hospice care, and then adopt an 8 year old who would otherwise have been euthanized. Plus, you'd have a shitload of money left over to possibly do some good for other animals (donate some to the SPCA or something.)
alkemyst
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I know you don't have them up in sheep town, but a good vet could just do some exploratory surgery and figure it out rather than all these tests they do today.
Your later statement is sort of reality...unfortunately a poor one.
I donate a lot of money to those that can guarantee it goes mostly to the fund...too many solicitors have a 1-5% policy. You donate $100 and like only $1 to 5 bucks makes it there.
so sad.
We have a cat with a broken leg or maybe a dislocated one...I just picked up a drop trap for $125 this morning that replaces the HavAHeart trap I paid $60 for a couple weeks ago and the cat knows the game.
While you are saying pets get put to sleep each day, so are people.
Your later statement is sort of reality...unfortunately a poor one.
I donate a lot of money to those that can guarantee it goes mostly to the fund...too many solicitors have a 1-5% policy. You donate $100 and like only $1 to 5 bucks makes it there.
so sad.
We have a cat with a broken leg or maybe a dislocated one...I just picked up a drop trap for $125 this morning that replaces the HavAHeart trap I paid $60 for a couple weeks ago and the cat knows the game.
While you are saying pets get put to sleep each day, so are people.
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