How Much would this cost?

[Anubis]

What would it cost to upgrade a network from 10Base to 100base Ethernet? Assuming that the wiring is all there, just need to upgrade the switches and such, network of about 3000 users

I ask because my former college, I?m an alum, runs 10base currently and the current batch of bitchy students want them to upgrade to 100base to make it faster, yet the have no idea how much it would cost what it would take

Also some genius said "iinstead of upgrading to a 100 if they ever do anything they should just go to the gig/sec network. other schools have done it and it's what's going to be common in the future"

Because that?s really going to happen :roll:

And if any of you know what school(s) run gigE if any

 

[AcidicFury]

Which school?

 

[Anubis]

Dickinson College

 

[AcidicFury]

Ah, I'm thinking of applying there.

 

[Anubis]

Originally posted by: AcidicFury
Ah, I'm thinking of applying there.

cool feel free to PM me if you have questions about anything

now back to the topic at hand

 

[Ryuson99]

Originally posted by: Anubis
What would it cost to upgrade a network from 10Base to 100base Ethernet? Assuming that the wiring is all there, just need to upgrade the switches and such, network of about 3000 users

I ask because my former college, I?m an alum, runs 10base currently and the current batch of bitchy students want them to upgrade to 100base to make it faster, yet the have no idea how much it would cost what it would take

Also some genius said "iinstead of upgrading to a 100 if they ever do anything they should just go to the gig/sec network. other schools have done it and it's what's going to be common in the future"

Because that?s really going to happen :roll:

And if any of you know what school(s) run gigE if any

all u need to do is replace the hubs with switches and probably some of the nics

i would do a price check for you, but you can do that yourself.

 

[amdskip]

It won't really improve internet speeds but a 100 network will increase reliability and make things smoother. Gig to students computers is not economical as of yet IMHO. Just replacing the switches is way too generic. You have to really spend the $$ if you want the right equipment.

 

[DrPizza]

Ask the whining students for one legitimate reason they need a faster network - downloading MP3's and movies isn't legitimate...

 

[AFB]

Umm, yeah. If you have money to upgrade, go with GigE. The price difference is small over the long term and you get ~ 6 times the throughput .

<--- Talking about consumer grade .

 

[Anubis]

Originally posted by: amdskip
It won't really improve internet speeds but a 100 network will increase reliability and make things smoother. Gig to students computers is not economical as of yet IMHO. Just replacing the switches is way too generic. You have to really spend the $$ if you want the right equipment.

thats why i asked here cause i have no idea what it would take nor the cost of it

 

[AFB]

Originally posted by: Anubis

Originally posted by: amdskip
It won't really improve internet speeds but a 100 network will increase reliability and make things smoother. Gig to students computers is not economical as of yet IMHO. Just replacing the switches is way too generic. You have to really spend the $$ if you want the right equipment.

thats why i asked here cause i have no idea what it would take nor the cost of it

What kind of routers &amp; switches do they have now ? Is it just crap stuff ? Cisco stuff ?

 

[Anubis]

Originally posted by: amdfanboy

Originally posted by: Anubis

Originally posted by: amdskip
It won't really improve internet speeds but a 100 network will increase reliability and make things smoother. Gig to students computers is not economical as of yet IMHO. Just replacing the switches is way too generic. You have to really spend the $$ if you want the right equipment.

thats why i asked here cause i have no idea what it would take nor the cost of it

What kind of routers do they have now ?

i have no idea, i dont work there

 

[AFB]

Originally posted by: Anubis

Originally posted by: amdfanboy

Originally posted by: Anubis

Originally posted by: amdskip
It won't really improve internet speeds but a 100 network will increase reliability and make things smoother. Gig to students computers is not economical as of yet IMHO. Just replacing the switches is way too generic. You have to really spend the $$ if you want the right equipment.

thats why i asked here cause i have no idea what it would take nor the cost of it

What kind of routers do they have now ?

i have no idea, i dont work there

Probably not that much, ($100 for a 16 port switch) at least if you go the low end route and just buy mid-end stuff. Like someone said, 100Mbs ethernet is on the way out. It will be here for while , but it will get replaced sometime in the future.

 

[Anubis]

Originally posted by: amdfanboy

Originally posted by: Anubis

Originally posted by: amdfanboy

Originally posted by: Anubis

Originally posted by: amdskip
It won't really improve internet speeds but a 100 network will increase reliability and make things smoother. Gig to students computers is not economical as of yet IMHO. Just replacing the switches is way too generic. You have to really spend the $$ if you want the right equipment.

thats why i asked here cause i have no idea what it would take nor the cost of it

What kind of routers do they have now ?

i have no idea, i dont work there

Probably not that much, ($100 for a 16 port switch) at least if you go the low end route and just buy mid-end stuff. Like someone said, 100Mbs ethernet is on the way out. It will be here for while , but it will get replaced sometime in the future.

so 3000/16 = 187, round to 190 to be safe, say 150-200$ mid range = $28,500-$38,000 + other cocts which im sure there are
that isnt what i woudl call not much

 

[AFB]

Originally posted by: Anubis

Originally posted by: amdfanboy

Originally posted by: Anubis

Originally posted by: amdfanboy

Originally posted by: Anubis

Originally posted by: amdskip
It won't really improve internet speeds but a 100 network will increase reliability and make things smoother. Gig to students computers is not economical as of yet IMHO. Just replacing the switches is way too generic. You have to really spend the $$ if you want the right equipment.

thats why i asked here cause i have no idea what it would take nor the cost of it

What kind of routers do they have now ?

i have no idea, i dont work there

Probably not that much, ($100 for a 16 port switch) at least if you go the low end route and just buy mid-end stuff. Like someone said, 100Mbs ethernet is on the way out. It will be here for while , but it will get replaced sometime in the future.

so 3000/16 = 187, round to 190 to be safe, say 150-200$ mid range = $28,500-$38,000 + other cocts which im sure there are
that isnt what i woudl call not much

lol, There are routers that cost more than that. (CRS-1 plus others I'm sure)

 

[JoeKing]

If you're school's going to do the upgrade you might as well go gig so you won't have to upgrade for a very long time. Your school won't have to lay down additional dinero anytime soon.

 

[AFB]

Originally posted by: JoeKing
If you're school's going to do the upgrade you might as well go gig so you won't have to upgrade for a very long time. Your school won't have to lay down additional dinero anytime soon.

The problem may be the wiring. It would cost a lot more to rewire than it would to replace a few switches and routers.

 

[Anubis]

Originally posted by: amdfanboy

Originally posted by: JoeKing
If you're school's going to do the upgrade you might as well go gig so you won't have to upgrade for a very long time. Your school won't have to lay down additional dinero anytime soon.

The problem may be the wiring. It would cost a lot more to rewire than it would to replace a few switches and routers.

yea i know its not wire for that, mabye the 2 newest buildings are but def not the dorms and such

 

[JoeKing]

unless the school is dissolving anytime soon it would probably be more cost effective to go gig. I know 36k is piddly to alumni's budgets

 

[bdjohnson]

Originally posted by: DrPizza
Ask the whining students for one legitimate reason they need a faster network - downloading MP3's and movies isn't legitimate...

yeah but if the illigitimate things make ligitimate things hard to do then you need to upgrade

 

[thomsbrain]

Originally posted by: Anubis

Originally posted by: amdfanboy

Originally posted by: Anubis

Originally posted by: amdfanboy

Originally posted by: Anubis

Originally posted by: amdskip
It won't really improve internet speeds but a 100 network will increase reliability and make things smoother. Gig to students computers is not economical as of yet IMHO. Just replacing the switches is way too generic. You have to really spend the $$ if you want the right equipment.

thats why i asked here cause i have no idea what it would take nor the cost of it

What kind of routers do they have now ?

i have no idea, i dont work there

Probably not that much, ($100 for a 16 port switch) at least if you go the low end route and just buy mid-end stuff. Like someone said, 100Mbs ethernet is on the way out. It will be here for while , but it will get replaced sometime in the future.

so 3000/16 = 187, round to 190 to be safe, say 150-200$ mid range = $28,500-$38,000 + other cocts which im sure there are
that isnt what i woudl call not much

it's 3000 freaking users, what do you expect? they're gonna have to upgrade it sooner or later. i mean, you figure each student is paying roughly 20k/year (or the government is paying up to that amount for public schools), so that's around... $60 million every year. you're telling me they can't find $30,000 in there to upgrade the network to something that wasn't obsolete a decade ago?

 

[Anubis]

Originally posted by: thomsbrain

Originally posted by: Anubis

Originally posted by: amdfanboy

Originally posted by: Anubis

Originally posted by: amdfanboy

Originally posted by: Anubis

Originally posted by: amdskip
It won't really improve internet speeds but a 100 network will increase reliability and make things smoother. Gig to students computers is not economical as of yet IMHO. Just replacing the switches is way too generic. You have to really spend the $$ if you want the right equipment.

thats why i asked here cause i have no idea what it would take nor the cost of it

What kind of routers do they have now ?

i have no idea, i dont work there

Probably not that much, ($100 for a 16 port switch) at least if you go the low end route and just buy mid-end stuff. Like someone said, 100Mbs ethernet is on the way out. It will be here for while , but it will get replaced sometime in the future.

so 3000/16 = 187, round to 190 to be safe, say 150-200$ mid range = $28,500-$38,000 + other cocts which im sure there are
that isnt what i woudl call not much

it's 3000 freaking users, what do you expect? they're gonna have to upgrade it sooner or later. i mean, you figure each student is paying roughly 20k/year (or the government is paying up to that amount for public schools), so that's around... $60 million every year. you're telling me they can't find $30,000 in there to upgrade the network to something that wasn't obsolete a decade ago?

tuition is actually gonna be like 36K this year

 

[AFB]

Originally posted by: Anubis

Originally posted by: thomsbrain

Originally posted by: Anubis

Originally posted by: amdfanboy

Originally posted by: Anubis

Originally posted by: amdfanboy

Originally posted by: Anubis

Originally posted by: amdskip
It won't really improve internet speeds but a 100 network will increase reliability and make things smoother. Gig to students computers is not economical as of yet IMHO. Just replacing the switches is way too generic. You have to really spend the $$ if you want the right equipment.

thats why i asked here cause i have no idea what it would take nor the cost of it

What kind of routers do they have now ?

i have no idea, i dont work there

Probably not that much, ($100 for a 16 port switch) at least if you go the low end route and just buy mid-end stuff. Like someone said, 100Mbs ethernet is on the way out. It will be here for while , but it will get replaced sometime in the future.

so 3000/16 = 187, round to 190 to be safe, say 150-200$ mid range = $28,500-$38,000 + other cocts which im sure there are
that isnt what i woudl call not much

it's 3000 freaking users, what do you expect? they're gonna have to upgrade it sooner or later. i mean, you figure each student is paying roughly 20k/year (or the government is paying up to that amount for public schools), so that's around... $60 million every year. you're telling me they can't find $30,000 in there to upgrade the network to something that wasn't obsolete a decade ago?

tuition is actually gonna be like 36K this year

So yeah, WTF ?