How much should this job pay?

[TechBoyJK]

link

this is a link to a cached job description for an edge manager at Savvis..

I have the following certs

A+
Network+
Server+
Security+
iNet+
MCP 2000 - Win2k Pro admin (210)
MCP 2000 - Win2k Server admin (210)
MCP 2000 - Active Directory (217)
MCP 2000 - Network Admin (218)
MCSA 2000
CIW-A

How much should I ask for? How much should I expect? My brother, who works at Savvis, says the edge managers are very well paid. He makes about $35k annually doing front line tech support... His manager told me edge managers make over $10k more per year than tech support....

edit: i'm hoping to clear $4k per month after taxes... I usually pay out about 20% gross income to the tax gods..

 

[doze]

Siunce they are asking for a year of experience I would imagine the job pays between 35-50K depending on location. Where is the job, and what is normal rent in that area? If your in BFE and an apt. costs $400 a month to rent then your probably not gonna make 4K per month before taxes.

 

[DurocShark]

25k a year.



<----- 60k, no certs. <nelson> Haw Haw! </nelson>

 

[rmrf]

you have no unix background. they will not pay you a premium, because you do not have the desired requirements.

 

[TechBoyJK]

Originally posted by: doze
Siunce they are asking for a year of experience I would imagine the job pays between 35-50K depending on location. Where is the job, and what is normal rent in that area? If your in BFE and an apt. costs $400 a month to rent then your probably not gonna make 4K per month before taxes.

well I have plenty of experience... about 3 years working at about the most elite webhosting company on the planet.. clients included gateway, the entire government of pakistan, associated press... I was an account manager / edge manager... while I didnt physically trouble shoot servers or equipment, it was my job to make sure it got done...

cool thing is, if I want certs, they pay for it.. several retakes too before they give up on me passing.. and they pay for local college too..
average aptment is about $600-$800 in the area.. for a one bedroom not in the slums but in the nicer burbs, inwhich the business is located... so in the immediate area, aptmnts are about $800....

 

[Wapp]

Originally posted by: DurocShark
25k a year.



<----- 60k, no certs. <nelson> Haw Haw! </nelson>

<----- 70k, A+ What what?

 

[TechBoyJK]

Originally posted by: rmrf
you have no unix background. they will not pay you a premium, because you do not have the desired requirements.

most of my clients at my last job were unix based... while I wasnt at the console everyday, i know how to get around, can read a man page, and I had to deal with tech support on unix related issues... ive setup iptables before, but have never recompiled a kernal... ive installed linux and freebsd before..

 

[rmrf]

make sure and list that then.

real world experience > schooling

 

[CraigRT]

Originally posted by: DurocShark
25k a year.



<----- 60k, no certs. <nelson> Haw Haw! </nelson>

Name of employer please..
I have no certs (other than useless A+) and I don't feel I could ever make that much doing this work.

 

[Hyperblaze]

Originally posted by: TechBoyJK

Originally posted by: rmrf
you have no unix background. they will not pay you a premium, because you do not have the desired requirements.

most of my clients at my last job were unix based... while I wasnt at the console everyday, i know how to get around, can read a man page, and I had to deal with tech support on unix related issues... ive setup iptables before, but have never recompiled a kernal... ive installed linux and freebsd before..

compiling a kernel really isn't that complex

/usr/src/linux
make menuconfig

select options
make modules; make modules_install
make bzImage

done

 

[TechBoyJK]

Originally posted by: Hyperblaze

Originally posted by: TechBoyJK

Originally posted by: rmrf
you have no unix background. they will not pay you a premium, because you do not have the desired requirements.

most of my clients at my last job were unix based... while I wasnt at the console everyday, i know how to get around, can read a man page, and I had to deal with tech support on unix related issues... ive setup iptables before, but have never recompiled a kernal... ive installed linux and freebsd before..

compiling a kernel really isn't that complex

/usr/src/linux
make menuconfig

select options
make modules; make modules install
make bzImage

done

im sure its simple once I get used to it.. and thats what I told them... im afraid of nothing, i just need a chance to learn.. if Im left to myself to learn, it will take longer than if you have someone to hold my hand and show me the "best practice" rather than making me read about it......

 

[ngvepforever2]

Originally posted by: rmrf
make sure and list that then.

real world experience > schooling

Real world experience + schooling> real world experience

Regards

ng

 

[TechBoyJK]

Originally posted by: ngvepforever2

Originally posted by: rmrf
make sure and list that then.

real world experience > schooling

Real world experience + schooling> real world experience

Regards

ng

yea, i got my real world experience before i got my certs... the certs were a function of 1. backing me up 2. filling in what I missed in the real world...

i feel fairly complete.. I got all those certs in 10 months. this year, mcse 2k and 2k3, mcdba 2000, linux+, ccna, redhat..

 

[ngvepforever2]

Originally posted by: TechBoyJK

Originally posted by: ngvepforever2

Originally posted by: rmrf
make sure and list that then.

real world experience > schooling

Real world experience + schooling> real world experience

Regards

ng

yea, i got my real world experience before i got my certs... the certs were a function of 1. backing me up 2. filling in what I missed in the real world...

i feel fairly complete.. I got all those certs in 10 months. this year, mcse 2k and 2k3, mcdba 2000, linux+, ccna, redhat..

That's pretty good, hope it all works out in the upcoming year. Happy Holiday BTW!

Regards

ng

 

[poopaskoopa]

You might price yourself out of a job if you say you want to clear $4k/mo when negotiating $$$ for this job. If you're single and have no kids, you'd need to be making ~66k/yr to clear 4k/mo. I don't know if you actually put 4 lines on your resume with that MCP stuff, but you got the exam number wrong for win2k server (it should be 70-215).

 

[TechBoyJK]

Originally posted by: ngvepforever2

Originally posted by: TechBoyJK

Originally posted by: ngvepforever2

Originally posted by: rmrf
make sure and list that then.

real world experience > schooling

Real world experience + schooling> real world experience

Regards

ng

yea, i got my real world experience before i got my certs... the certs were a function of 1. backing me up 2. filling in what I missed in the real world...

i feel fairly complete.. I got all those certs in 10 months. this year, mcse 2k and 2k3, mcdba 2000, linux+, ccna, redhat..

That's pretty good, hope it all works out in the upcoming year. Happy Holiday BTW!

Regards

ng

tahnks, im broke as a yugo and up to my a55 in debt (almost $65k)

 

[TechBoyJK]

Originally posted by: poopaskoopa
You might price yourself out of a job if you say you want to clear $4k/mo when negotiating $$$ for this job. If you're single and have no kids, you'd need to be making ~66k/yr to clear 4k/mo. I don't know if you actually put 4 lines on your resume with that MCP stuff, but you got the exam number wrong for win2k server (it should be 70-215).

yea, thats a typo... and i put it out there because i want folks to know what makes up the mcsa, and what services i may be proficient in... (btw i passed active directory with a 700 .... ) so i wouldnt say i was proficient with it, id say "im proficient in windows 2000 operating systems, windows 2000 networking, and im lucky with Active directory...

 

[GT1999]

How old are you?

 

[doze]

Originally posted by: TechBoyJK

Originally posted by: doze
Siunce they are asking for a year of experience I would imagine the job pays between 35-50K depending on location. Where is the job, and what is normal rent in that area? If your in BFE and an apt. costs $400 a month to rent then your probably not gonna make 4K per month before taxes.

well I have plenty of experience... about 3 years working at about the most elite webhosting company on the planet.. clients included gateway, the entire government of pakistan, associated press... I was an account manager / edge manager... while I didnt physically trouble shoot servers or equipment, it was my job to make sure it got done...

cool thing is, if I want certs, they pay for it.. several retakes too before they give up on me passing.. and they pay for local college too..
average aptment is about $600-$800 in the area.. for a one bedroom not in the slums but in the nicer burbs, inwhich the business is located... so in the immediate area, aptmnts are about $800....

Additional experience isn't always a good thing b/c not all jobs want ppl. with too much experience because they know they can pay a lot less to a less experienced guy who learns fast.

 

[vi edit]

That's around $65,000 per year before taxes. That's a lot of jack. I know you are in IL. What part?

 

[TechBoyJK]

Originally posted by: Geekish Thoughts
How old are you?

25

 

It depends where you live.
I doubt you're going to CLEAR 48K a year.

 

[TechBoyJK]

Originally posted by: vi_edit
That's around $65,000 per year before taxes. That's a lot of jack. I know you are in IL. What part?

metro st. louis area.. illinois side.... close enough for me to be posting this from downtown st. louis right now...

 

[Ausm]

Originally posted by: SampSon
It depends where you live.
I doubt you're going to CLEAR 48K a year.

Shat...where I live I make around 75K but that is will 20+ years exp.


Ausm

 

[GT1999]

Originally posted by: TechBoyJK

Originally posted by: vi_edit
That's around $65,000 per year before taxes. That's a lot of jack. I know you are in IL. What part?

metro st. louis area.. illinois side.... close enough for me to be posting this from downtown st. louis right now...

I used to work at Jones Corp over there in Maryland Heights -- small world. Now i'm in Springfield, IL.

Metro IL side... EAST SIDE? :Q