How much heat would this OC cause? How to go about doing it?

Atty

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I want to OC my E6600 to 2.93 (Or about, maybe even as high as 3.0 if I can manage.)


How much heat would it cause? my idle is about 39c and my load is 44 - 50 (varying % of load.)

Any tutorials on how to OC? I think I've got how to do it but don't want to ****** anything up, thanks. :)
 

BonzaiDuck

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One of my benchmark programs reports that my processor is drawing 83W (as opposed to 65W) under load with the E6600 @ 3.24 Ghz. My TR Ultra 120 has a lower thermal resistance than your CNPS-9500, so my load temperature is still a tad lower than yours, despite a clock setting higher than your stated objective. My idle temperature is below 29C, however.

Here's what I've noticed so far about my E6600:

@ stock 2.4 Ghz, CPU idle = 25C, CPU load (extreme) = 39C
@ 3.24 Ghz, CPU idle = 25C, CPU load (extreme) = 45C

I still believe that cooling for other motherboard components will affect both temperatures of the CPU. I also think that reducing the spread between the two temperatures is easier on the processor, and for some temperature ranges, it may be just as well to raise the idle slightly for some known and fixed load temperature.

I've bumped up my VCORE voltage about 0.02V above the "Auto" value reported as a "set-value" by monitoring software. Much of my load temperature increase is due to the speed setting, and the voltage is a minor factor, but on the threshold of having a greater impact on temperature.

You should be able to reach an OC of 2.8 or 3.0 Ghz with some ease -- with that particular motherboard and the memory you've chosen. there are about three ways to get there, and it depends on which CPU multiplier and which DDR speed you choose. But at the stock multiplier, you're already at 3 Ghz running the memory at (DDR) 667 and the FSB at 1,334 Mhz. that's a 25% over-clock, which should be very easy and less stressful for your processor or other components.

You should find some good OC advice in "stickies" on this forum. Also, if you hunt down reviews for your motherboard, there should be several that bench-test it with that processor, and some of these should give you some ideas about how to find the right clock and latency settings.

Your ambitions are very modest -- for that motherboard and the E6600 processor. In fact, I'll choose to run my system at settings similar to that on a more regular basis, just to make the components last a bit longer.
 

Atty

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Core temp.

Thanks, Bonzai, anyone else have any info or help? :)
 

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Originally posted by: iAtticus
Core temp.

Thanks, Bonzai, anyone else have any info or help? :)

I have a different chip but just slowly raise your FSB up and keep checking for temps and make sure the system running stable.. i run my chip at 3.6 and my temps are at 31 idle and about 44 under load i have try everything to get it high but i retired for now.. ;)
 

BonzaiDuck

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It is marvelous to be able to share information this way.

In these and other forums, I have various questions or concerns about how people report their OC settings and over-volt settings. For example, when reporting "load" temperature, are they sampling temperatures over a reasonable time-period of running "load" programs? Or are they just recording peak temperatures? What load-testing program do they use, and how long are they running it?

In another topic thread I posted recently, I explained that setting my VCORE above 1.475V on my Striker motherboard seems to be a threshold for higher temperatures. I may also have said that, depending on BIOS revision, there had been (a) a failure for the board to change VCORE to a real value above about 1.42 and 1.44 by changing the setting to some number above that 1.475 value, but this was corrected in later BIOS versions. I noted that usual discrepancy between "set" vcore and monitored values -- on my board, it is a discrepancy of about -0.02V. Then, there is "voltage droop" -- which I measure as the difference in reported idle and load values as about 0.03V.

Today, I discovered some valuable information at Tom's Hardware forums, stating that the E6600 and other similar processors had three TEMPERATURE sensors: one called the TCase sensor located between the cores, and another "TJunction" placed at the hottest locations for each core:

Core-2-Duo Temperature Guide

This guide seems to confirm my own "seat-of-the-pants" decision that voltages above 1.475V seem to make it more difficult for air-cooling. I had tried the voltage they mention, and the load temperature readings only began to fall back at the 1.475 setting.

But I also discovered something else. I currently have two programs that report VCORE in "real-time" -- PC Probe and CPU-Z. nVidia Monitor only reports the "set" values selected in BIOS, and apparently, Everest reports information coded into the CPU.

I notice that CPU-Z reports 1.3925V (+ or -), while ASUS is reporting 1.44V, using a "set-voltage" value of 1.4625V. So it seems to be an open question about which program reports the "true" real-time voltage (in this case, under idle conditions).

Other information gleaned from the THG guides suggests that an idle-to-load temperature swing of up to 25C-degrees is "normal" for these processors -- under ordinary cooling situations. I am pursuing my belief that lower the temperatures of the SB, NB, DRAM and even the graphics card might reduce this somewhat. While my particular motherboard has features that reduce overall motherboard temperatures or keep them stable, the motherboard sensor is not located near either the NB, SB or memory. One would suspect that more attention to cooling these items would reduce CPU temperature highs, since these things are all connected through the NB, and the connections would logically conduct heat.

My understanding is this: Stress to the processor derives from three things -- excessive temperatures, operating voltage, and frequencies higher than what the processor was spec'd for. Both of the latter two factors increase temperature stress, but even at reduced temperatures those factors have impacts of their own.

This is where the discrepant reporting of voltages is of great interest to me. Even if I were to believe the PC Probe readings, my voltage settings result in an actual (real-time) load value that is approximately 0.07V above the printed Intel spec -- which doesn't seem like much. But under CPU-Z's reported "real-time" voltage, it is only about 0.02 or 0.03V above the printed spec.

Without further information, I have to assume that certain steppings and certain "batches" of E6600 processors (or all processors within any other model) -- will run at lower temperatures, higher frequencies and lower voltages, and other steppings and "batches" will run at temperatures, frequencies and voltages that result in less than "record" over-clock speeds for that processor.

One thing I've yet to do with my E6600-Striker Extreme setup. I started adjusting voltage upward using the PC Probe and nVidia Monitor "Auto" values for real-time "set-value" -- or 1.44V. Posts on other forums suggest that you can actually set the voltage much closer to the Intel printed spec, and obtain higher over-clock settings with lower temperatures.

But you can see, from the disparate reports using different monitoring software programs, that questions remain.
 

BonzaiDuck

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This could be added to another thread -- perhaps even in the "Motherboard" section.

But here are some observations I make using my Striker Extreme motherboard and the 680i chipset with the E6600 processor:

First, the Intel TAT program will not load with this system posting an error "unable to enumerate .. . . " I am tentatively attributing this to some incompatibility with the 680i chipset. Remember that INtel Active Monitor will not function on boards other than those produced by Intel, even if those boards use Intel chipsets -- or such has been my experience as I may imperfectly recall it.

Second, for the 680i chipset, SpeedFan (4.3x version] detects many voltages and temperatures. However, the 3.3V value is incorrectly reported as "Vcore #2."

Third, in conjunction with what I've stated above concerning monitoring software and "set" versus "monitored" Vcore values, Speedfan reports 1.36V.

So again, while this may be specific to 680i chipsets, or possibly even to the Striker board, but using BIOS 1004, I have the following indications of VCORE values, having entered a "set" value of 1.4625V in BIOS Setup:

nVidia Monitor: The "Set" value is reported for VCORE.
CPU-Z, SpeedFan, BIOS and PC Probe: The monitored values are reported for VCORE:

[IDLE]
Speedfan = 1.36V
[BIOS and Probe = 1.44V
CPU-Z = 1.3925V

[LOAD]
Under Speedfan = 1.344V
Under Probe = between 1.41 and 1.42V
[note: Haven't taken a closer look with CPU-Z yet for "load" voltage.]

Also, the "Auto" setting for VCORE in the BIOS is reported as 1.44V in nVidia Monitor.

My final observation, without additional facts, is that there is a possibility of biases in temperature reporting given this variation in voltage reporting. However, I have not see this to be the case -- or at least temperatures reported under all monitoring programs appear to be the same for idle and load values.

 

BassBomb

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Originally posted by: Csst
Originally posted by: iAtticus
Core temp.

Thanks, Bonzai, anyone else have any info or help? :)

I have a different chip but just slowly raise your FSB up and keep checking for temps and make sure the system running stable.. i run my chip at 3.6 and my temps are at 31 idle and about 44 under load i have try everything to get it high but i retired for now.. ;)

What cooler are you running?