Read the topic and you could have saved yourself some time 😉Originally posted by: MichaelD
IMO, if you have to see a marriage counselor, your relationship is already OVER. If you have to see someone to "help you work it out" that means you both are fcking pitiful and should be shot for even attempting to have a successful marriage. Buy a dog, build a cabin in the woods of Oregon and live off candlelight for the rest of your sad life. That's all your good for.
Not referring to you directly, Shockwave. That's just my opinion on "couples seeking help." Seek a lawyer and dump the bitch, you'll be better off in the end and less in debt for paying what amounts to a brick wall. That's all the counselor does. Listens to you both bitch. He/she tunes you BOTH out. Much like I did w/my ex and you do w/your wife. And she does w/you. Work it out in two weeks or less or END IT NOW.
Originally posted by: MrCodeDude
Read the topic and you could have saved yourself some time 😉Originally posted by: MichaelD
IMO, if you have to see a marriage counselor, your relationship is already OVER. If you have to see someone to "help you work it out" that means you both are fcking pitiful and should be shot for even attempting to have a successful marriage. Buy a dog, build a cabin in the woods of Oregon and live off candlelight for the rest of your sad life. That's all your good for.
Not referring to you directly, Shockwave. That's just my opinion on "couples seeking help." Seek a lawyer and dump the bitch, you'll be better off in the end and less in debt for paying what amounts to a brick wall. That's all the counselor does. Listens to you both bitch. He/she tunes you BOTH out. Much like I did w/my ex and you do w/your wife. And she does w/you. Work it out in two weeks or less or END IT NOW.
Originally posted by: MichaelD
IMO, if you have to see a marriage counselor, your relationship is already OVER. If you have to see someone to "help you work it out" that means you both are fcking pitiful and should be shot for even attempting to have a successful marriage. Buy a dog, build a cabin in the woods of Oregon and live off candlelight for the rest of your sad life. That's all your good for.
Not referring to you directly, Shockwave. That's just my opinion on "couples seeking help." Seek a lawyer and dump the bitch, you'll be better off in the end and less in debt for paying what amounts to a brick wall. That's all the counselor does. Listens to you both bitch. He/she tunes you BOTH out. Much like I did w/my ex and you do w/your wife. And she does w/you. Work it out in two weeks or less or END IT NOW.
Originally posted by: MichaelD
IMO, if you have to see a marriage counselor, your relationship is already OVER. If you have to see someone to "help you work it out" that means you both are fcking pitiful and should be shot for even attempting to have a successful marriage. Buy a dog, build a cabin in the woods of Oregon and live off candlelight for the rest of your sad life. That's all your good for.
Not referring to you directly, Shockwave. That's just my opinion on "couples seeking help." Seek a lawyer and dump the bitch, you'll be better off in the end and less in debt for paying what amounts to a brick wall. That's all the counselor does. Listens to you both bitch. He/she tunes you BOTH out. Much like I did w/my ex and you do w/your wife. And she does w/you. Work it out in two weeks or less or END IT NOW.
Originally posted by: Ronstang
Sorry, I have to agree with MichealD....if you need counseling the relationship is already over. It is kind of like slapping bondo over a rust hole....it will work for a while but eventually the cancer wins and the probelm is now worse.
However, you can legally counsel people if you are, say, a minister - and you can get that thru the mail if you want.Any applicant seeking a license to practice marriage or family therapy must pass an examination and prove to the Board that he/she is at least 21 years old, of good moral character, and has not engaged in any practice or conduct in violation of the Board's rules and regulations.
Applicants must have a minimum of a master's degree in marriage and family therapy, a master's degree in social work, or equivalent course work content and training to a master's degree in marriage and family therapy (measured by a curriculum specified in the Board's regulations) from a regionally accredited institution. The basic experiential requirement is five years of full-time therapy, two of which must be in supervised marriage and family therapy. Detailed information on the requirements for licensure can be found in the statute (N.J.S.A. 45:8B-1 et seq.)
You're so romantic :heart:.Originally posted by: MichaelD
All relationships start out great. Some end badly. Most end EVIL. No such thing as a "friendly breakup."
If you think you had a "friendly breakup" then you were never really in love to begin with. if you both just decide 'it's not worth getting upset over...we'll just walk away", then neither one of you was into it much.
Real love leaves gaping, festering wounds and promotes evil thoughts when it's over.
Now, that's classic MichaelD.Originally posted by: MichaelD
Real love leaves gaping, festering wounds and promotes evil thoughts when it's over.
Originally posted by: jjones
Now, that's classic MichaelD.Originally posted by: MichaelD
Real love leaves gaping, festering wounds and promotes evil thoughts when it's over.
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Originally posted by: Skoorb
You're so romantic :heart:.Originally posted by: MichaelD
All relationships start out great. Some end badly. Most end EVIL. No such thing as a "friendly breakup."
If you think you had a "friendly breakup" then you were never really in love to begin with. if you both just decide 'it's not worth getting upset over...we'll just walk away", then neither one of you was into it much.
Real love leaves gaping, festering wounds and promotes evil thoughts when it's over.
My guess is that in a minority of cases a marriage counselor does have an overwhelming positive effect on a marriage, such that an otherwise doomed marriage is now worth having. But, I've no doubt at all that in most cases if you need to see a counselor you're just putting off the inevitable. Most people do not change very much, and although most of us can see the mistakes we make and pledge to do better, in most cases we just won't. That's human nature. Generally if you need a counselor you should give up, and 99% of the cases if you are going to try a separation first just stop kidding yourselves and sign the divorce papers already.
There would be less marriage problems - in fact less marriages - if people would go out for longer first, and when a relationship is getting really rocky just terminate it instead of keeping it on out of habit, which is what a great many do. Then they get married. Then churn out a couple of crotch dumplings. Then later get divorced and then their kids will probably just repeat the pattern.
Originally posted by: Bowmaster
My experience with a marriage counselor was not pretty. Turns our my wife (now ex) had an unhappy childhood and that we needed to buy a horse to make her happy. I sh*t you not!!! During that period I was willing to do anything to save our marriage.
Well, the horse did not make her happy - turns out it takes a lot of work to have a horse (duh!!!). Oh - and a lot of money too...