How much does an OC-3 connection cost?

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AndrewR

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If I have the terminology right. What about a T-3 and a T-1? It's not for me (damn, I wish I could afford any of those), but I'm having trouble with my cable provider and would like some ammunition to attack them with.

Are there any other connection methods for a cable modem provider? I am not too familiar with the big lines. Thanks in advance!

If it matters, this would be through BellSouth in Georgia.
 
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yakko

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Apr 18, 2000
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You'll want to look into the OC-48 connection.They should be real affordable.
 
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rahvin

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Oct 10, 1999
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OC stands for optical cable, it should be relatively easy for you to see that ANY OC line is gonna be priccccyyy!
 
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Windogg

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T1 = 1.544mbps. Seems slow but ping times are very low. Its comprised of 24 voice circuits. T1s are still widely used for PXB systems (Boy are those Nortel systems sweet) in offices. T1s are considered public utilities so the telcos are required to keep them up 24x7x365. Any outage must be fixed ASAP. None of those weeklong DSL/Cable blackouts. In the office we once lost of 2 voice T1s and 1 data T1 for an hour and there was hell to pay.

A T3 is a line that transmits at 44.736mbps. An offshoot of T1 is fractional T1 where you can lease a part of the line.

OC is basically fiber optic lines and they tranmit at a base of 51.84mbps and each number bumps up the speed by that much. i.e. OC-3 = 155.52. By the time you get to T3s and OC lines you are talking large office or ISP. BellSouth coonects to major backbones (Frame Relay) via these smaller pipes.

I've heard some talk about OC-1024. 53gbps, wow.... that alot of pr0n.

Windogg
 
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convex

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qwest and genuity always send us emails about switching to them and i can mail you some of the prices...
 
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stomp

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Jeez, an OC192 sucks... it would take 14 mins, 23 seconds to download a true terabyte... that's fricking slow, I want my terrabyte now.
 
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Spook

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The problem with that is finding a PCI NIC card that download that fast... Your going to hit a barrier somewhere around 100Mbps... or even the Giga cards can't be totally used becuase the PCI bus isn't fast enough...
 
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Mday

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no one even mentioned price yet...

it's like $15K a month for T3, i have no idea what OC costs are...
 
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AndrewR

Lifer
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Geez, with that kind of bandwidth for porn, I'd need a multi-terabyte enterprise storage system from IBM. I think the wife might have a problem with installing that in my office though -- "Nothing, honey, it's just for the porn."

Thanks for the info on the stuff. Mday: Sounds like the T-3 is prohibitively expensive for this small ISP though, damn it. They are ducking my calls, and it's rather ticking me off. I didn't expect to start threatening legal action this soon after moving in, but people that avoid me when they are in the wrong are really just a pain in the @ss.

convex: If you could mail those prices to me, that would be an interesting read. I'm also curious about leasing lines or partial leases, if you have any info on that. I would think that since the cable company (now AT&T) operates optical cable in the area, this ISP could lease some bandwidth from them.
 
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Mday

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that's the big thing about DSL and cable modem access... DSL is up to T1 speeds for LESS. and cable is OVER t1 speeds for less. of course cable modem can get slower than dial up, but that's one messed up network, as they do introduce new nodes (um, i don't know networking lingo) as the "network neighborhood" grows too large...

and, i did not look up anything, it was something i knew about... some places may have it for $10K. =P

some small businesses even struggle getting t1...
 
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Warrenton

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Where do people keep getting this misinformation that DSL is up to T1 speeds? Its up to 1024kbps upstream 7688kbps downstream. Or very close to that. Last time I checked that was 1Mbit up/7Mbit down.
 
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Dean

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What he is saying Viper is that Dsl is well capable to be well beyond T1 speeds. I know it is, as I have a 7 megabit dsl connection :)

And for $40 a month Canadian to boot :)
 
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Phalkon

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If you're having lots of trouble with your modem, call your provider, tell them that you're experiencing frequent outages and you'd like to know whether its a SERVER problem or a PHYSICAL CONNECTION problem. If its a physical connection problem, they can check the status of your line, any noise, etc. If its a server problem, then you'll just have to boot them in the arse and tell them to get their servers up.

You can usually tell the difference between the different problems by:
a) If the modem lights are blinking in unison, and the traffic light is off, then its a connection problem. The modem is trying to re-establish a working data band.
b) If the lights are calm and are responsive when you try to retreive something, yet nothing works (eg, webpages don't load, etc) then its most likely a DNS or DHCP server problem, or perhaps a crapped out router.

In case a) Tell them your problem, they'll have to try and fix it... they don't like clients screwing with stuff anyway :)
In case b) Phone them and tell them that you don't pay them for downed servers.... what really makes them ticked is when you tell them that your phone provider had better server uptimes ;)

Cable outages are the worst... my brother is going to beat up the cable modem if it happens any more often.
Electrical storms are the worst. Anything that would mess up a TV will mess up a Cable modem. What sucks is when my dad vaccuums and it messes up the modem.... that is the absolute worst.

DSL... it depends where you get it IMHO. In Toronto, it sucks.
Cable rules in Toronto... the only downfall is the $35-50/mo.

I've always wanted an OC connection myself... actually the building I worked in (across the street from me) has an OC connection (unknown width)... gawd I wish I could steal it!!! Its connected to the private military network though (bah)

Personally, I don't see any home computers being able to handle OC connection speeds. Our puny PCI busses can't compete with data at the speed of light, so most of the speed would be a waste. And the OC connector boxes are HUGE, not to mention a hassle of wires.

 
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-SpYrL-

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Why not just get an OC-256. A mere 13.5GB/sec. that can't cost to much now could it?

-SpYrL-
 
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Eli

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So what does DS stand for? As in DS-3? My ISP has two fractional DS3s, 1 10mbit and 1 6mbit.

 
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