how much does a public school principal make?

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pstylesss

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Originally posted by: mooglemania85
Originally posted by: KK

Look at this school. There some teachers making 150k. THat's insane, I'd hate to pay those taxes, of course I couldn't probably afford to live there anyways.

WTH. HS guidance counselor. 10 months of "work", 60-120k salary...not bad.

I don't know about other schools... but when I was at my HS, we had two counselors, part of their job was class assigning. Which means they had to coordinate 800+ students classes and make sure they worked out perfectly as well as deal with the complainers. That headache alone would be worth 60k...
 

montypythizzle

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Originally posted by: mooglemania85
Originally posted by: KK

Look at this school. There some teachers making 150k. THat's insane, I'd hate to pay those taxes, of course I couldn't probably afford to live there anyways.

WTH. HS guidance counselor. 10 months of "work", 60-120k salary...not bad.

If I were a counselor I would tell them EMO bitches to harden the fuck up.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=mh6pZQX22CQ
 

Turin39789

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Originally posted by: tk109
Damn teachers sucking the school system dry when they have to cut autoshop, woodshop, and all other kinds of electives. What ever happened to doing it for the kids. A fair wage is fine but most their wages Piss me off.

lol. Are you doing your job for the kids and not to get paid?
 

spidey07

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Originally posted by: mooglemania85
Originally posted by: KK

Look at this school. There some teachers making 150k. THat's insane, I'd hate to pay those taxes, of course I couldn't probably afford to live there anyways.

WTH. HS guidance counselor. 10 months of "work", 60-120k salary...not bad.

:)

It's what my girl does. It's actually a lot of work.

But as other have stated principals make between 100-200K and more.

But consider that amount of education REQUIRED to get in school administration. A masters is the first step to even apply in admin and if you want principal I think a doctorate is required.
 

Zenmervolt

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Originally posted by: Whisper
I'd believe that some of them could make that much, depending on the area, considering that a doctorate is generally required for the position.
Where the hell do you get the idea that a doctorate is required to be a high school principal?

ZV
 

spidey07

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Originally posted by: Zenmervolt
Originally posted by: Whisper
I'd believe that some of them could make that much, depending on the area, considering that a doctorate is generally required for the position.
Where the hell do you get the idea that a doctorate is required to be a high school principal?

ZV

It's normally required. Depends on the district though. I'd assume most all of them require it.
 
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Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: Zenmervolt
Originally posted by: Whisper
I'd believe that some of them could make that much, depending on the area, considering that a doctorate is generally required for the position.
Where the hell do you get the idea that a doctorate is required to be a high school principal?

ZV

It's normally required. Depends on the district though. I'd assume most all of them require it.

Most schools I've been to and read about don't even 'require' a masters for administration, though it's preferred. I have yet to see any school position in primary or secondary schools that requires a doctorate.
 

KK

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Originally posted by: PrinceofWands
Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: Zenmervolt
Originally posted by: Whisper
I'd believe that some of them could make that much, depending on the area, considering that a doctorate is generally required for the position.
Where the hell do you get the idea that a doctorate is required to be a high school principal?

ZV

It's normally required. Depends on the district though. I'd assume most all of them require it.

Most schools I've been to and read about don't even 'require' a masters for administration, though it's preferred. I have yet to see any school position in primary or secondary schools that requires a doctorate.

Yeah, atleast here where my wife works it's not a requirement. This past year at her school the vice principal got a doctorate, which raised her pay up, and since the principal's pay has to be 10% more than the vice-principal, meant that principal got a pay raise too. I think the principal only had a masters or maybe she had her specialist(one step up from a masters).

 

Anubis

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Originally posted by: ZeroIQ
Originally posted by: mooglemania85
Originally posted by: KK

Look at this school. There some teachers making 150k. THat's insane, I'd hate to pay those taxes, of course I couldn't probably afford to live there anyways.

WTH. HS guidance counselor. 10 months of "work", 60-120k salary...not bad.

I don't know about other schools... but when I was at my HS, we had two counselors, part of their job was class assigning. Which means they had to coordinate 800+ students classes and make sure they worked out perfectly as well as deal with the complainers. That headache alone would be worth 60k...

they make computer programs that basicially do all that for you now
hell my buddy made one in java for a project in college
 

spidey07

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Originally posted by: PrinceofWands
Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: Zenmervolt
Originally posted by: Whisper
I'd believe that some of them could make that much, depending on the area, considering that a doctorate is generally required for the position.
Where the hell do you get the idea that a doctorate is required to be a high school principal?

ZV

It's normally required. Depends on the district though. I'd assume most all of them require it.

Most schools I've been to and read about don't even 'require' a masters for administration, though it's preferred. I have yet to see any school position in primary or secondary schools that requires a doctorate.

Looks like I was mistaken, don't have to have a doctorate. Asking honey-bunny to explain....

There's a process/certification process that admins have to go through. There's a 'principal certification' program that one has to go through to be a principal and via that they usually get their masters to enhance their chances. If somebody wants to have a chance at getting into admin, they must get their masters. Although not mandated, it's VERY rare to get into admin without masters. Plus principals can work 10-12 hours a day.

This is KY and from what she says those kinds of requirements are dictated by the state.
 

KK

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Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: PrinceofWands
Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: Zenmervolt
Originally posted by: Whisper
I'd believe that some of them could make that much, depending on the area, considering that a doctorate is generally required for the position.
Where the hell do you get the idea that a doctorate is required to be a high school principal?

ZV

It's normally required. Depends on the district though. I'd assume most all of them require it.

Most schools I've been to and read about don't even 'require' a masters for administration, though it's preferred. I have yet to see any school position in primary or secondary schools that requires a doctorate.

Looks like I was mistaken, don't have to have a doctorate. Asking honey-bunny to explain....

There's a process/certification process that admins have to go through. There's a 'principal certification' program that one has to go through to be a principal and via that they usually get their masters to enhance their chances. If somebody wants to have a chance at getting into admin, they must get their masters. Although not mandated, it's VERY rare to get into admin without masters. Plus principals can work 10-12 hours a day.

This is KY and from what she says those kinds of requirements are dictated by the state.

Plus administrators have to work some during the summer when the teacher are off. Teacher here work like 185 or 190 days and administrators have to work somewhere between 205-220 days.
 

her209

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Originally posted by: tk109
Damn teachers sucking the school system dry when they have to cut autoshop, woodshop, and all other kinds of electives. What ever happened to doing it for the kids. A fair wage is fine but most their wages Piss me off.
Include doctors on that list.
 
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Originally posted by: Omegachi
she told me someone (an accountant who works for a principle) told her that his principal client makes about 150k just from his principle salary. I told her the person who told him the info is BSing. In no way in hell a public school principal would make that much... right?

That sounds about right. Matters what state you are in though. In CT and NY though, I wouldn't doubt it. Definitely 6 figures.
 
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Originally posted by: her209
Originally posted by: tk109
Damn teachers sucking the school system dry when they have to cut autoshop, woodshop, and all other kinds of electives. What ever happened to doing it for the kids. A fair wage is fine but most their wages Piss me off.
Include doctors on that list.

I always get a kick out of people that put prices on others that are trained to save lives.

I got an idea, stop brushing your teeth and eat at burger king every day and stop seeing your doctor. I guarantee, it will make me happy. Also, when you break your leg, have a friend set it without anesthetic. Actually have your friend administer some anesthetic, to much narcotics never killed I guess.

 

FoBoT

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depends on the area, that would be the superintendents salary in one of the larger districts around here
principles would be about half that
 

Wreckem

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Originally posted by: Zenmervolt
Originally posted by: Whisper
I'd believe that some of them could make that much, depending on the area, considering that a doctorate is generally required for the position.
Where the hell do you get the idea that a doctorate is required to be a high school principal?

ZV

More and more well to do school districts are requiring it. Its the well to do school districts that pay a lot.

Pay depends on the school district and its tax base. $150k isnt unheard of. Superintendent pay is starting to get really up there in some school districts, upwards for $300-400k.
 

xanis

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Your friend isn't too far off the mark. In my area principals make about $100K. On the flipside, the superintendent pulls in about $150K.
 

LongCoolMother

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depends on where we're talking. I used to go to school in one of the worst school districts in the bay area (CA). The superintendent is currently racking up $190k+. Don't know about the principal, but I don't suppose he's making too little either.
 

spidey07

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Originally posted by: KK
Plus administrators have to work some during the summer when the teacher are off. Teacher here work like 185 or 190 days and administrators have to work somewhere between 205-220 days.

You've got that right.

The work they do over break is just as rigorous as a normal day.

And to anybody that believes my honey-bunney high school guidance counselor doesen't work their ass off...........sorely misinformed.

Not enough space to describe what she does, enough space to say I could never, ever, ever do her job. Her care and effort to lift people make me feel lucky just to be in her presence.
 

Cobalt

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I live in DuPage County, IL and we have the highest paid workers in education in the state. Many of my old teachers made/make 100K+. Wouldn't doubt if we ranked highest in the country.
 

BrownTown

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At the (private) school I went to the principal was pulling down 250,000$, so its seems entirely plausible that a public school principal could make 150,000$, especially in areas of the country with high living expenses.