How much do those luke wilson AT&T commercials SUCK

[slayer202]

How annoying are these commercials? Straight misdirection. I'm not sure how accurate the verizon "coverage maps" are, but AT&T does nothing to make a case for themselves. That stupid ass map with the postcards and not one mention of it being 3G coverage. How obnoxious

 

[rockyct]

Well, if they can't answer with a marketing point, throw a ~B level actor in the commercial.

 

[Bl0cks]

I'd have to agree that was a pretty horrible commercial. Almost as bad as the Palm Pre commercials.

 

[oogabooga]

How annoying are these commercials? Straight misdirection. I'm not sure how accurate the verizon "coverage maps" are, but AT&T does nothing to make a case for themselves. That stupid ass map with the postcards and not one mention of it being 3G coverage. How obnoxious

It's bad when most people I know who use AT&T see those verizon commercials and go "seriously, man AT&T does suck" and after they watch the AT&T commercials go "Man, AT&T really does suck".

I don't think they're really convincing people they're better with them.

 

[mugs]

AT&T's complaint is that Verizon's ads lead people to believe that AT&T lacks coverage in large areas of the country. AT&T's ads are just stating that there is coverage in most of the country. What's the problem with that?

Most cell phone users have no need for 3G and don't even know what 3G is, so Verizon's ads would be confusing to them.

 

[Suspicious-Teach8788]

How annoying are these commercials? Straight misdirection. I'm not sure how accurate the verizon "coverage maps" are, but AT&T does nothing to make a case for themselves. That stupid ass map with the postcards and not one mention of it being 3G coverage. How obnoxious

Well it's not the white spots you see in the Verizon commercial that makes ATT's 3G coverage so bad. Even with 75% of the population covered or whatever they claim, the problem is the existing network simply can't handle the traffic going through. I believe SF and Chicago are long due for class action law suits. It might even be spotty here as in the towers don't completely cover our whole area because I get 2G/3G switching in and out in downtown SF next to the Apple store.

The commercial isn't entirely false. 7.2mbps HSPA is nice but seriously, do we even come close in real world testing? NOPE. But it is on paper the FASTEST... Hah.

 

[ChAoTiCpInOy]

I think the Apple commercials are better. They actually show that you can do something that you can't on Verizon.

 

[darkswordsman17]

AT&T's complaint is that Verizon's ads lead people to believe that AT&T lacks coverage in large areas of the country. AT&T's ads are just stating that there is coverage in most of the country. What's the problem with that?

Most cell phone users have no need for 3G and don't even know what 3G is, so Verizon's ads would be confusing to them.

And AT&T's complaint sucks ass. Their commercial sucks and is annoying, which is what people are complaining about.

 

[PricklyPete]

He's put on a decent amount of weight..maybe he's pregnant...

 

[mugs]

And AT&T's complaint sucks ass. Their commercial sucks and is annoying, which is what people are complaining about.

In this case people == nerds on an Internet forum. The ad isn't meant for us, it's meant for the average cell phone user.

 

[Suspicious-Teach8788]

ATT's 3G coverage = 75%
ATT's 2G+3G coverage = 97%

Good enough. It's the LACK of capacity that's the problem. I live in a 3G zone, but it's not well built.

 

[darkswordsman17]

In this case people == nerds on an Internet forum. The ad isn't meant for us, it's meant for the average cell phone user.

Uh....ok? It doesn't change the fact that the ad sucks and is annoying. AT&T's whining, let alone lawsuit, is fucking stupid, as its not Verizon's fault that people are morons.

 

[frostedflakes]

I don't understand why AT&T is getting so butthurt over Verizon's commercials. I didn't think they were misleading at all, it was obvious that the Verizon commercials were referring to 3G coverage, and not trying to imply that AT&T has no coverage in these areas.

 

[TruePaige]

Not to mention that AT&T claims coverage for 97% of Americans while many parts of the US, even on their own map have zero coverage...not a great traveling cell network.

Verizon on the other hand smashes AT&T on basic coverage AND 3G coverage.

I don't use Verizon because it is an expensive provider...but come on AT&T they have your number on this one.

 

[TruePaige]

Not to mention that AT&T claims coverage for 97% of Americans while many parts of the US, even on their own map have zero coverage...not a great traveling cell network.

Verizon on the other hand smashes AT&T on basic coverage AND 3G coverage.

I don't use Verizon because it is an expensive provider...but come on AT&T they have your number on this one.

 

[TruePaige]

Uh....ok? It doesn't change the fact that the ad sucks and is annoying. AT&T's whining, let alone lawsuit, is fucking stupid, as its not Verizon's fault that people are morons.

It's insulting that AT&T thinks people are too stupid to grasp the truth.

 

[mugs]

ATT's 3G coverage = 75%
ATT's 2G+3G coverage = 97%

Good enough. It's the LACK of capacity that's the problem. I live in a 3G zone, but it's not well built.

I don't know the details of AT&T's infrastructure in the SF bay area, but they're allocated a limited slice of the electromagnetic spectrum. They can't just increase available bandwidth by running more lines to the towers. It's the iPhone's fault, really; if Verizon had the iPhone, they'd be in the same position as AT&T.

Uh....ok? It doesn't change the fact that the ad sucks and is annoying. AT&T's whining, let alone lawsuit, is fucking stupid, as its not Verizon's fault that people are morons.

It's not AT&T's fault that people are morons either; they're just making sure people know what they're getting when they sign up for AT&T service. What's wrong with that?

I don't even like AT&T and I didn't think the ad was annoying. I thought it was kind of funny.

It's insulting that AT&T thinks people are too stupid to grasp the truth.

It's hard for nerds to understand that other people don't care about the things we care about. People who use their phones only for phone calls and texting aren't "too stupid to grasp the truth," they're just not educated about something they don't have any need to know about.

 

[GeekDrew]

I don't understand why AT&T is getting so butthurt over Verizon's commercials. I didn't think they were misleading at all, it was obvious that the Verizon commercials were referring to 3G coverage, and not trying to imply that AT&T has no coverage in these areas.

Except that I'd bet a *lot* of people equate 3G with coverage of any kind. My parents did, my sister did -- as a matter of fact, the only person I've discussed this with who *did* realize there was a difference, was my little brother.

Oh, and the reason that I defend AT&T is because they're the only carrier that sufficiently covers my routine travel area. Verizon doesn't even come close.

 

[darkswordsman17]

Except that I'd bet a *lot* of people equate 3G with coverage of any kind. My parents did, my sister did -- as a matter of fact, the only person I've discussed this with who *did* realize there was a difference, was my little brother.

Oh, and the reason that I defend AT&T is because they're the only carrier that sufficiently covers my routine travel area. Verizon doesn't even come close.

Then why should AT&T get to claim the fastest network if you can only access that speed in select places? That's misleading to people who live in the huge blank spots. Its all a bunch of horseshit on all sides.

It's not AT&T's fault that people are morons either; they're just making sure people know what they're getting when they sign up for AT&T service. What's wrong with that?

You asked what the problem with that was (multiple times), and I was just pointing out that people's problem is they found it to suck and be annoying.

 

[Suspicious-Teach8788]

I don't know the details of AT&T's infrastructure in the SF bay area, but they're allocated a limited slice of the electromagnetic spectrum. They can't just increase available bandwidth by running more lines to the towers. It's the iPhone's fault, really; if Verizon had the iPhone, they'd be in the same position as AT&T.



It's not AT&T's fault that people are morons either; they're just making sure people know what they're getting when they sign up for AT&T service. What's wrong with that?

I don't even like AT&T and I didn't think the ad was annoying. I thought it was kind of funny.



It's hard for nerds to understand that other people don't care about the things we care about. People who use their phones only for phone calls and texting aren't "too stupid to grasp the truth," they're just not educated about something they don't have any need to know about.

Ok, well perhaps Verizon would be screwed, but then my question is why does Asia not have these issues? I have yet to use the 3G network for data, but clearly they are advertising 3.6mbps and 7.2mbps HSDPA with all their "3.5G" ads. I've NEVER had a problem with voice 3G calls in Asia, yet in the US you hear about iPhone dropped calls left and right. At first it was a firmware thing, but the rest really is an AT&T issue due to tower handoffs and crappy coverage.

If we can't run more lines, then what is the issue? Places with even more population density like Asia and Europe run into more problems? I don't hear about the same problems with AT&T as the rest of the world does. And honestly, there are far more people pushing data using other phones in the rest of the world.

 

[GeekDrew]

Then why should AT&T get to claim the fastest network if you can only access that speed in select places? That's misleading to people who live in the huge blank spots. Its all a bunch of horseshit on all sides.

I don't agree that AT&T should say that they are the fastest network unless they have *something* factual to back it up. I simply think that they're the best carrier in my area. Oh, and AT&T's phones are *infinitely* better than Verizon's, aside from the Moto Droid.

 

[slayer202]

Except that I'd bet a *lot* of people equate 3G with coverage of any kind. My parents did, my sister did -- as a matter of fact, the only person I've discussed this with who *did* realize there was a difference, was my little brother.

Oh, and the reason that I defend AT&T is because they're the only carrier that sufficiently covers my routine travel area. Verizon doesn't even come close.

If you buy an iphone you should expect 3G. When verizon comes out and says AT&T has crappy 3G coverage and AT&T responds directly back to verizon and only mentions their overall coverage, that is a douche tactic.

 

[GeekDrew]

If you buy an iphone you should expect 3G. When verizon comes out and says AT&T has crappy 3G coverage and AT&T responds directly back to verizon and only mentions their overall coverage, that is a douche tactic.

And Verizon's not equally as douche-tastic for only mentioning 3G, and not overall coverage?

 

[Suspicious-Teach8788]

Then why should AT&T get to claim the fastest network if you can only access that speed in select places? That's misleading to people who live in the huge blank spots. Its all a bunch of horseshit on all sides.

Ok

1) You probably don't care about the blank spots.
2) Probably no one from this forum is from the blank spots
3) You probably wouldn't ever go there anyway.
4) On your road trips, you can get 3G coverage anyway. We listened to 3G radio on someone's iPhone on our 6 hour road trip.
5) 75% 3G coverage is pretty decent. I remember when cell coverage first came out in the 90s, we took a map ATT's size and said "Hey, I live in the cities. I'm not going to the middle of nowhere, I should be OK...." and it WAS ok.

I can bet like 99% of you who even post here ARE covered by AT&T's 3G network. The problems you face with AT&T are probably all capacity related and not 3G area coverage related.

 

[Anonemous]

I think the Apple commercials are better. They actually show that you can do something that you can't on Verizon.

Thing is you need 3G to do what they did in their sped up timelapse commercial. Good luck getting 3G on that iPhone.