How much can I scrap a 2010 Kawasaki Ninja 250R for?

[Throckmorton]

That's ridiculous. There is definitely a lot more risk than driving a car but there are plenty of things you can do as a rider to minimize the risk. I rarely ride after dark (except during the winter when it is dark when I leave work) and never ride after consuming alcohol. Always try to be in the right frame of mind, focused.

I know a number of guys who have been riding for decades and have never been in a serious accident. The one who has hit a deer and he has hundreds of thousands of miles riding over the span of 30+ years.

I know a guy who didn't do anything wrong and ended up in the hospital with a concussion, which was a lucky break since he could have died, and his name is FuzzyBabyBunny.

 

[JulesMaximus]

I know a guy who didn't do anything wrong and ended up in the hospital with a concussion, which was a lucky break since he could have died, and his name is FuzzyBabyBunny.

Look, I'm not saying that it isn't dangerous but it's not a death sentence like some people make it out to be. If I had that mentality I wouldn't ride at all.

 

[ponyo]

I gave away my CBR600 F4 couple months ago. I have too many people who depend on me to ride.

 

[MagnusTheBrewer]

I gave away my CBR600 F4 couple months ago. I have too many people who depend on me to ride.

Well, that's a choice. Not one that I chose to make but, that's why old bikers never die, they just learn to never ride faster than your guardian angel can fly.

 

[OILFIELDTRASH]

Look, I'm not saying that it isn't dangerous but it's not a death sentence like some people make it out to be. If I had that mentality I wouldn't ride at all.

It's not a death sentence. True.

Do your chances of being scooped up with a shovel go up 100x? Absolutely.

I don't care how long you've been riding. There is nothing you can do if someone runs a red light or makes a sudden turn right in front of you. Don't give me the I know guys that have ridden 30 years bs cause 99% of the guys I know that really ride bikes have been down. We all know the risks involved and accept it as riders. Me I just choose at this time not to assume the risk. If you do than more power to you. Motorcycling is a thing of beauty and don't hold it against anyone. Just please don't put your head in the sand and say oh it won't happen to me.

 

[fuzzybabybunny]

Well, that's a choice. Not one that I chose to make but, that's why old bikers never die, they just learn to never ride faster than your guardian angel can fly.

Well, when finances dictate, I know that I'm going to be getting a new bike and/or fixing my current out. Probably an SV650 or a GSXR600, since those are the only two sports that I can sit on and still touch the ground with both feet. I have no dependents. And I'll be paranoid as fuck when riding.

What I will also get immediately is a full 2 piece riding suit and easy entry boots, and I will wear those every single time I go riding.

I know now more than ever the risk I'm taking, but riding is such an enjoyable thing... I'm just not ready to give it up.

 

[JulesMaximus]

It's not a death sentence. True.

Do your chances of being scooped up with a shovel go up 100x? Absolutely.

I don't care how long you've been riding. There is nothing you can do if someone runs a red light or makes a sudden turn right in front of you. Don't give me the I know guys that have ridden 30 years bs cause 99% of the guys I know that really ride bikes have been down. We all know the risks involved and accept it as riders. Me I just choose at this time not to assume the risk. If you do than more power to you. Motorcycling is a thing of beauty and don't hold it against anyone. Just please don't put your head in the sand and say oh it won't happen to me.

Hell...don't we all kind of put our heads in the sand a little bit when it comes to riding? Like I said earlier, if I was scared of crashing I probably wouldn't ride at all.

And I never said it won't happen to me.

 

[Doppel]

That's ridiculous. There is definitely a lot more risk than driving a car but there are plenty of things you can do as a rider to minimize the risk. I rarely ride after dark (except during the winter when it is dark when I leave work) and never ride after consuming alcohol. Always try to be in the right frame of mind, focused.

I know a number of guys who have been riding for decades and have never been in a serious accident. The one who has hit a deer and he has hundreds of thousands of miles riding over the span of 30+ years.

Sorry, it's not ridiculous but demonstrably factual. I know that as a family man who rides you want to explain away safety concerns, but motorbikes are magnitudes more likely to result in a crash per mile driven. You know this. A "number of guys" is not a statistically relevant study.

According to the U.S. National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA), in 2006, 13.10 cars out of 100,000 ended up in fatal crashes. The rate for motorcycles is 72.34 per 100,000 registered motorcycles.

Like I said, exceedingly dangerous.

Well, when finances dictate, I know that I'm going to be getting a new bike and/or fixing my current out. Probably an SV650 or a GSXR600, since those are the only two sports that I can sit on and still touch the ground with both feet. I have no dependents. And I'll be paranoid as fuck when riding.

You have now proven you are an imbecile. Before you bought this bike you were told by people it was a bad idea. Not because it's a motorbike but because you had clearly indicated you were not suitable for the experience. Reviewing that old thread, you dropped it what twice, including once in a showroom? And now you've had a near-death experience you're still recovering from just a year after buying it and you want to try it again? That's not getting back on the horse, that's failing to learn from the past.

Motorbikes are more dangerous than cars but there are good riders and bad ones. You're obviously a bad one. Do you want to die? Heck, for all I know it's guys like you that make up the 5X more likely to have a fatal crash than a car. Maybe guys like Julesmaximus really are fine and you guys flaw the figures for the rest of them.

 

[Elganja]

glad to hear you are okay. I've gone down a few times myself and it was enough for me to stop riding. Both on my CBR600 (back roads + tires that didn't hold) and my Busa (at the track on this bike, fucking cars and dropping oil). As the saying goes "It's not a matter of IF you go down, but only a matter of WHEN."

I do miss my Busa immensely though:

As far as the medical bills go, your insurance company should be dealing with all that crap, then you will get a final bill (usually your deducatable from your medical insurance). Be happy you are okay with minor bumps and bruises, and have medical insurance to start with.

As far as comprehensive/collision insurance for a motorcycle... I know for my Busa they wanted nearly 5k a year. Fuck that noise... I ran with liability only too. A lot of owners do, due to the insane costs

As for getting a new bike... stay away from the 600cc class bikes for now... the SV650 is a great bike to graduate to IMHO. And if you are having trouble touching the ground, get lowering links installed by the dealer before you leave the lot.

 

[fuzzybabybunny]

Sorry, it's not ridiculous but demonstrably factual. I know that as a family man who rides you want to explain away safety concerns, but motorbikes are magnitudes more likely to result in a crash per mile driven. You know this. A "number of guys" is not a statistically relevant study.Like I said, exceedingly dangerous.You have now proven you are an imbecile. Before you bought this bike you were told by people it was a bad idea. Not because it's a motorbike but because you had clearly indicated you were not suitable for the experience. Reviewing that old thread, you dropped it what twice, including once in a showroom? And now you've had a near-death experience you're still recovering from just a year after buying it and you want to try it again? That's not getting back on the horse, that's failing to learn from the past.

Motorbikes are more dangerous than cars but there are good riders and bad ones. You're obviously a bad one. Do you want to die? Heck, for all I know it's guys like you that make up the 5X more likely to have a fatal crash than a car. Maybe guys like Julesmaximus really are fine and you guys flaw the figures for the rest of them.

Lol, ok, flaw me for dropping my bike twice at 2mph with all of *50* miles under my belt, and while practicing slow speed figure eight drills in an empty parking lot. That obviously makes me a bad rider. Me tipping a bike at the showroom when I had *5* miles under my belt.

Yup, obviously makes me a bad rider. Those experiences at 50 miles totally negates all the learning experiences I got over my 6,000 miles of riding.

 

[Capt Caveman]

Lol, ok, flaw me for dropping my bike twice at 2mph with all of *50* miles under my belt, and while practicing slow speed figure eight drills in an empty parking lot. That obviously makes me a bad rider. Me tipping a bike at the showroom when I had *5* miles under my belt.

Yup, obviously makes me a bad rider. Those experiences at 50 miles totally negates all the learning experiences I got over my 6,000 miles of riding.

I believe from reading some of your other threads, you have already had some close calls. Isn't your GF pregnant with your first child?

You're lucky you didn't hit an object and get cut in half when you flew off your bike.

 

[roguerower]

I believe from reading some of your other threads, you have already had some close calls. Isn't your GF pregnant with your first child?

Don't forget, the "GF" is also a child prodigy flying fighter aircraft in the USAF at age 22, holds a Top Secret clearance, and has severe medical problems.

You're lucky you didn't hit an object and get cut in half when you flew off your bike.

FBB, you're receiving grief because you have a habit of posting nonsense and bullshit and we don't forget that stuff so easily.

 

[Zap]

I do miss my Busa immensely though:

Wow, that thing looks fast just sitting still! :awe:

 

[yh125d]

Wow, that thing looks fast just sitting still! :awe:

More like fat and bulbous

Other than their speed, I never understood why people like them

 

[Elganja]

More like fat and bulbous

Other than their speed, I never understood why people like them

that is what I wanted it for ... well that and it looked sexy as hell... But it was stretched to a 62inch wheel base and slammed.

All I did was drag racing with it (rode to and from the track) ... after I hit 8's I sold it (there was no way I could control myself on the streets and I would end up killing myself)

 

[Doppel]

Lol, ok, flaw me for dropping my bike twice at 2mph with all of *50* miles under my belt, and while practicing slow speed figure eight drills in an empty parking lot. That obviously makes me a bad rider. Me tipping a bike at the showroom when I had *5* miles under my belt.

Yup, obviously makes me a bad rider. Those experiences at 50 miles totally negates all the learning experiences I got over my 6,000 miles of riding.

YES, they do make you a bad rider because they show you were already out of your depth doing figure eights in a parking lot. Don't you see that?

So in 6k miles you've dropped your bike a couple of times and also nearly killed yourself. With that track record how many more miles do you have left in you?

You said you dropped it twice at 2 mph, you're not including dropping the damn thing in the showroom. http://forums.anandtech.com/showpost.php?p=30269821&postcount=1

And then almost got rear-ended because you clearly had no situational awareness: http://forums.anandtech.com/showpost.php?p=30333457&postcount=1

And the next month you "almost died" http://forums.anandtech.com/showpost.php?p=30413929&postcount=1

So what's that in your first year you:

• dropped a bike in a show room
• dropped it while practicing in a parking lot
• dropped it another one of those 2mph times
• almost got rear-ended
• almost died clipping a truck
• totaled your bike and got a trip to the hospital

Oh yeah, you're ready for your first 600 cc, baby!

Full disclosure: I'm not convinced you don't troll a lot of these experiences anyway, so I realize there are good odds it's fiction.
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That bike of Elganja's does looks nice, and a resplendent color.

 

[halik]

I've dropped various bikes several times in low speeds (gravel, stand didn't lock yade yada), don't think that necessarily makes you a bad rider.

That being said, the fact that he was blown away by the most common form of motorcycle accidents in his "near death" experience is disconcerting at best. More than 1/2 of all bike related accidents come from cars not seeing the riders and turning into their lane.

 

[The Stigenator]

FBB, dont let these idiots on the board get to you.

Glad you are okay, are your balls okay, you hit the tank quite hard when you crashed, I see the bump on the tank. As for the bike, it can be repaired, it can be fixed, it can be sold, but dont the towing yard have it.

I've been riding for years, and face is crashing is part of the equation. Its part of why we ride. I currently have liability on the bike but thats because i hardly ever ride, but I do have goads of life insurance (with the motorcycle inclusion, lots of them dont pay if its a motorcycle accident). When I do ride, I keep it careful. Night time is the hardest, since you can only see so much, i try not to ride at night and I try not to ride during the hours when the sun is in someone's eyes or twilight / dawn time.

INsurance will pick up the injury stuff, you should be fine. I am not sure who your insurer is, but when I got t-boned by a 87 year old 2 years ago, for me Kaiser picked all of it up. Though I wasnt injured like you.

Riding bikes is a lovely past time but its not really a good commute choice in So.Cal or Nor.Cal, we've all done it for commuting, I've ridden in teh snow, ice on the ground etc etc. But fact is that I prefer teh car, hence why my bike sits in the garage.

Next time shop around for insurance, I ride a 2001 GS500 and I used to pay quite a bit with Geico, but I have Markel American now, I pay roughly 56/yr liability, if I want full coverage with medical and all it comes to about 200/yr. Then again I got about 10 years experience on the bike.

get well soon.

 

[yhelothar]

Glad to hear you're ok FBB.
That really sucks that the person responsible drove off. That's why all vehicles need black boxes where a camera and several gigs of memory in the form of a miniSD card would cost less than $50.

 

[Doppel]

Glad to hear you're ok FBB.
That really sucks that the person responsible drove off. That's why all vehicles need black boxes where a camera and several gigs of memory in the form of a miniSD card would cost less than $50.

As I mentioned in some other thread on OT, it's possible to get your own dash cam from amazon for a small amount of money. You can track your own stuff and it should assist with tracking down hit and run drivers, too.

 

[Capt Caveman]

As I mentioned in some other thread on OT, it's possible to get your own dash cam from amazon for a small amount of money. You can track your own stuff and it should assist with tracking down hit and run drivers, too.

fwiw - saw this from today's Newegg email. Not useful for a bike but might be handy for the car.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA0BB05P3252

 

[waggy]

YES, they do make you a bad rider because they show you were already out of your depth doing figure eights in a parking lot. Don't you see that?

So in 6k miles you've dropped your bike a couple of times and also nearly killed yourself. With that track record how many more miles do you have left in you?

You said you dropped it twice at 2 mph, you're not including dropping the damn thing in the showroom. http://forums.anandtech.com/showpost.php?p=30269821&postcount=1

And then almost got rear-ended because you clearly had no situational awareness: http://forums.anandtech.com/showpost.php?p=30333457&postcount=1

And the next month you "almost died" http://forums.anandtech.com/showpost.php?p=30413929&postcount=1

So what's that in your first year you:

• dropped a bike in a show room
• dropped it while practicing in a parking lot
• dropped it another one of those 2mph times
• almost got rear-ended
• almost died clipping a truck
• totaled your bike and got a trip to the hospital

Oh yeah, you're ready for your first 600 cc, baby!

Full disclosure: I'm not convinced you don't troll a lot of these experiences anyway, so I realize there are good odds it's fiction.
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That bike of Elganja's does looks nice, and a resplendent color.

idiotic.

him dropping it twice is nothing. EVERY rider i know (many riding well over10+ years) have dropped it a few times. shit happens.

I do think he is a idiot for riding at night with the limited experience he has (sorry 6k is not a lot). that is one of the worst times to be riding.

He didn't have the right mind set for the situation and reacted slow/wrong.

 

[waggy]

As I mentioned in some other thread on OT, it's possible to get your own dash cam from amazon for a small amount of money. You can track your own stuff and it should assist with tracking down hit and run drivers, too.

IF i was still rideing i would get something like this. A lot of my friends who still ride have cameras mounted that show whats in front of them.


while i don't ride anymore i have been thinking of getting a cam-am spyder. those look so damn sexy!

 

[Zap]

BTW I found a pic of another red Suzuki. Don't know the model, but it ain't sitting so purty.

I've dropped various bikes several times in low speeds (gravel, stand didn't lock yade yada)

Heh, I dropped my last motorcycle (Kawasaki KDX200) twice. First was before I even left the dealer lot. I just "graduated" from a Honda CR80R and the full sized bike was, well, HUGE!

Second time it was leaning on the stand. I think I was... HERE. It was an overlook bordering some canyon, with some defunct railroad trestles on the other side. It was leaning away from the canyon, but a gust of wind lifted it off the stand and toppled it over.

 

[Doppel]

IF i was still rideing i would get something like this. A lot of my friends who still ride have cameras mounted that show whats in front of them.


while i don't ride anymore i have been thinking of getting a cam-am spyder. those look so damn sexy!

I like those, too, they look pretty darn fun and exclude the possibility of certain events like sliding out on your side on fine gravel.