How many suggest/recommend updating/upgrading to Windows 10 from Win 7? (FIXED) (SOLUTION FOUND)

[EpicSurvivor]

Hey guys I am currently using Windows 7 64-bit but was tempted to upgrade/update to Windows 10. My reason for upgrading is pretty simple just don't know if I'll regret the change since I barely have used Windows 10 and I really disliked my few experiences with it. We have a cheap $300 all in one in the living room for the family and it has Windows 10 on it, I've only used it a handful of times to help family fix the printer or connect to the internet, nothing more.

My simple reason that I am tempted to get Windows 10 is because I want to get Microsoft/Xbox Game Pass subscription. But turns out I can only use it if I have Windows 10, not Windows 7 or below.

Any suggestions positive as well as negative are welcome in regards if I should keep Win 7 64-Bit or Upgrade to Windows 10.

I have a buddy of mine who has lots more computer experience and he also is using Windows 7 because he like me dislikes Windows 10.

Alright guys, what do you guys recommend?

 

[UsandThem]

Windows 10 is where it's at.

It's actually not bad at all after all the updates they have done. There's a few quirks here and there after some of the updates, but overall I don't miss Windows 7. I've learned what to look at after a large update, so it doesn't take much time to change a few settings back if they are changed during the update.

 

[EpicSurvivor]

Windows 10 is where it's at.

It's actually not bad at all after all the updates they have done. There's a few quirks here and there after some of the updates, but overall I don't miss Windows 7. I've learned what to look at after a large update, so it doesn't take much time to change a few settings back if they are changed during the update.

Dang it dude haha why make it so easy lol. Anywhere you can still get Windows 10 For Free Upgrade? or do I just need to buy it? I can get it for a low price online. Thanks

I wanna see what others may say. Will return to this thread tonight and tomorrow see what comes up.

 

[UsandThem]

Dang it dude haha why make it so easy lol. Anywhere you can still get Windows 10 For Free Upgrade? or do I just need to buy it? I can get it for a low price online. Thanks

I wanna see what others may say. Will return to this thread tonight and tomorrow see what comes up.

No, I think they finally killed off all free upgrade avenues (someone correct me if there is still some obscure way).

You will likely just need to buy a key (OEM or Retail). Probably looking at $80 - $100 if you catch a good sale. There are cheaper keys out there (like on Ebay), but odds are Microsoft will invalidate your key at some point because those keys aren't really on the up and up. It would suck to spend $20 - $40, and lose it when your key is flagged my Microsoft, and is deactivated.

The old saying of "It's it too good to be true, it probably is" definitely applies here. The nice thing about Windows 10 (at least the last time I checked), is if you download the ISO directly from Microsoft, you can install it and not enter a key. It will give you a nag on your screen, and prevent you from customizing many settings (like icons and wallpaper), but you can run it and see how much you like it before buying a key.

 

[ImpulsE69]

If you are thinking about 10 I would suggest a dual boot first. I've used 10 in many different scenarios and frankly it is a POS imo. If they'd simply quit trying to be Apple and Google and just concentrate on being an OS only it wouldn't be so bad. Sure you can go through a bunch of hoops to get it how you want it, but then the big forced upgrades come later and screw it all up or remove functionality. Their QA is abysmal and the way they release patches for 10 should be criminal.

If you really want to try it you can get it relatively cheap if you look around. I think I paid $15 for it and set it up in a dual boot for my primary desktop. It pretty much never gets used. I dread the day I need to build a new one....I just might not. I've found I have no need (at this time) of anything that is Win10 exclusive.

 

[Shamrock]

I hate Win10, but I had to upgrade because I bought AMD 2700x.

You can still get the free upgrade, I did it on May 14th (yup, just 12 days ago). But there is a catch. You must have your Win7 key. I even did a fresh install, not the "update".

When Win10 asks for a key, just input your Win7 key. It accepted mine, and immediately activated it. Mind you, if you have Win7 32bit, it will install the 32bit version. Same thing with Home or Pro. I had Win7 64bit Pro, and it installed Win10 64bit Pro.

 

[EpicSurvivor]

If you are thinking about 10 I would suggest a dual boot first. I've used 10 in many different scenarios and frankly it is a POS imo. If they'd simply quit trying to be Apple and Google and just concentrate on being an OS only it wouldn't be so bad. Sure you can go through a bunch of hoops to get it how you want it, but then the big forced upgrades come later and screw it all up or remove functionality. Their QA is abysmal and the way they release patches for 10 should be criminal.

If you really want to try it you can get it relatively cheap if you look around. I think I paid $15 for it and set it up in a dual boot for my primary desktop. It pretty much never gets used. I dread the day I need to build a new one....I just might not. I've found I have no need (at this time) of anything that is Win10 exclusive.

Wow great honest blunt reply (Same for reply below you) my concern exactly. I do appreciate it, you pretty much summoned up my fears and concerns and confirmed them for me. I do have one question can I dual Boot from the same HDD or I need to buy a secondary HDD. Because I only have one HDD right now as my main. I'd really appreciate your feedback on this as this would greatly impact my decision from this point forward. Thanks.

I hate Win10, but I had to upgrade because I bought AMD 2700x.

You can still get the free upgrade, I did it on May 14th (yup, just 12 days ago). But there is a catch. You must have your Win7 key. I even did a fresh install, not the "update".

When Win10 asks for a key, just input your Win7 key. It accepted mine, and immediately activated it. Mind you, if you have Win7 32bit, it will install the 32bit version. Same thing with Home or Pro. I had Win7 64bit Pro, and it installed Win10 64bit Pro.

Thank you so much for your input, you guys are great!
Could you possibly provide me the download link you were talking about? if its still available? and yes I still do have my Windows 7 key so this my be an alternative to buying it instead.

Thanks guys!

 

[EpicSurvivor]

No, I think they finally killed off all free upgrade avenues (someone correct me if there is still some obscure way).

You will likely just need to buy a key (OEM or Retail). Probably looking at $80 - $100 if you catch a good sale. There are cheaper keys out there (like on Ebay), but odds are Microsoft will invalidate your key at some point because those keys aren't really on the up and up. It would suck to spend $20 - $40, and lose it when your key is flagged my Microsoft, and is deactivated.

The old saying of "It's it too good to be true, it probably is" definitely applies here. The nice thing about Windows 10 (at least the last time I checked), is if you download the ISO directly from Microsoft, you can install it and not enter a key. It will give you a nag on your screen, and prevent you from customizing many settings (like icons and wallpaper), but you can run it and see how much you like it before buying a key.

I agree too good to be true. I got burnt before on Windows 7 64-bit 3 years ago on eBay. But I ended up getting a refund through Paypal after a dispute. Honestly Id on't want to share the source but as the other guys stated I can buy a Copy of Windows 10 64-bit retail right now for less than $25 online, these sources are correct due to the high amount of volume and positive feedback received on the store.

No offence as I do honestly appreciate your input, as stated on OG Post all input is appreciated in this regard. But so far 3 people have confirmed my fears lol. This is crazy haha. Will see what happens.

Thanks man.

 

[EpicSurvivor]

I do have one question can I dual Boot from the same HDD or I need to buy a secondary HDD. Because I only have one HDD right now as my main. I'd really appreciate your feedback on this as this would greatly impact my decision from this point forward. Thanks.
Thanks guys!

EDIT: Forgot Google can be your best friend lol. Going to check

EDIT #2: Just found out answer via Google. You just have to make an extra partition. I am really going to do this since I have a 2TB HDD with about 750GB Free space. Going to use about 400GB for Windows 10 and keep the rest for Windows 7. Is late now but going to watch a tutorial on Youtube on how to create extra partition for Windows 10 tomorrow.

Sorry just got into building my PC not long ago so I am learning the simple tricks.

Many thanks guys.

My final decision/Solution: Going to buy Windows 10 and make extra partition and install that on there and have Dual boot system.

Many thanks for all the help guys.
Cheers all!

 

[ImpulsE69]

I do want to digress a small bit. Some people love 10. I suppose it depends on what you use it for. I use it at work, my laptops have it as well. I simply don't like it for what I use it for. Many people love it for gaming which I haven't tried it for yet.

 

[EpicSurvivor]

I do want to digress a small bit. Some people love 10. I suppose it depends on what you use it for. I use it at work, my laptops have it as well. I simply don't like it for what I use it for. Many people love it for gaming which I haven't tried it for yet.

Cool deal. Appreciate it.

Just split my last 800GB out of 2TB HDD and made a 400GB Partition for Windows 10. In the process of buying Windows 10 right now and using the Windows Media Creation tool as provided on a different Forum group in a similar subject. I am pretty excited right now guess I am not going to bed yet haha. Here we go.

 

[UsandThem]

No offence as I do honestly appreciate your input, as stated on OG Post all input is appreciated in this regard. But so far 3 people have confirmed my fears lol. This is crazy haha. Will see what happens.

Thanks man.

I'm not worried. There will be more Windows 10 users who like it coming along at some point (the OS forum doesn't have as much traffic as some, so it might be a few days). The haters always show up first.

When I first went to Windows 10 in 2015, I wasn't impressed. But after sucking it up (and after a few major updates), it's not that bad. Some people really do hate it because it is true Microsoft is moving more towards an Apple IOS constant update type thing. They occasionly bug you with "use Microsoft Edge browser" ads. You get two big updates (one in the spring and one in the fall), and then smaller fixes/updates in between.

But if some people want to keep using Windows 7 or 8, who am I to say it's wrong? Different strokes for different folks. But like I mentioned, you can download the ISO directly from Microsoft and try it out for a few months to see what you think before entering/buying a key. Everything functions outside of many of the customization options.

 

[EpicSurvivor]

I'm not worried. There will be more Windows 10 users who like it coming along at some point (the OS forum doesn't have as much traffic as some, so it might be a few days). The haters always show up first.

When I first went to Windows 10 in 2015, I wasn't impressed. But after sucking it up (and after a few major updates), it's not that bad. Some people really do hate it because it is true Microsoft is moving more towards an Apple IOS constant update type thing. They occasionly bug you with "use Microsoft Edge browser" ads. You get two big updates (one in the spring and one in the fall), and then smaller fixes/updates in between.

But if some people want to keep using Windows 7 or 8, who am I to say it's wrong? Different strokes for different folks. But like I mentioned, you can download the ISO directly from Microsoft and try it out for a few months to see what you think before entering/buying a key. Everything functions outside of many of the customization options.

Thanks again man. (Or woman) I am in the process of Installing Windows 10 on my 16GB USB drive. Just bought a retail copy of the Windows 10 as well and I just partitioned and allocated 400GB just for Windows 10. Its 1AM but I am ready to proceed. USB is 88% ready as we speak.

Very excited to make the leap into Windows 10. Hope everything works out on the Installation part. Doing that tonight, here in a few. XD

 

[EpicSurvivor]

Alright all done. Really liking Windows 10 so far.

Just finished downloading State of Decay 2 from the App store but I don't know how to create a Desktop Shortcut. Can someone teach me how to do it? (This is so weird lol)

Almost 4AM and tempted to play State of Decay 2, feel like its Xmas lol

 

[you2]

I think the interface is a huge step-back from windows 10 for non touch users but i upgraded for the newer drivers. Anyway I hope more games come out for linux as I'm really tired of MS crap.

 

[EpicSurvivor]

I think the interface is a huge step-back from windows 10 for non touch users but i upgraded for the newer drivers. Anyway I hope more games come out for linux as I'm really tired of MS crap.

Yea I truly agree, but I must admit it does have its Charm.

Bumping this from above. Thanks
"Alright all done. Really liking Windows 10 so far.
Just finished downloading State of Decay 2 from the App store but I don't know how to create a Desktop Shortcut. Can someone teach me how to do it? (This is so weird lol)
Almost 4AM and tempted to play State of Decay 2, feel like its Xmas lol."

 

[JackMDS]

If one is following the Tech Journalism One can see that even that even the "Professional Complainers" that get paid for complaining starting to calm down and admits that Win 10 is Not bad.

There are people) myself among) that need to be using Win 7 on some work related computers because of specific work related software that have problems with Win 10. Otherwise most of the complains about Win 10 are majorly due to Societal Shift that Celebrates constant Dram Queening/Kinging. Giving that the Upgrade was free that that both can be maintained I really do not see the problem.

I'm not worried. There will be more Windows 10 users who like it coming along at some point (the OS forum doesn't have as much traffic as some, so it might be a few days). The haters always show up first.

QFT

I am 20 years on this Forum, until few years ago the main focus was to find solution to specific users problems.

In the last few yeras it shifted To focus shift to "Desperately" trying to understand what the problem is. If One can not understand the specific problem One can Not offer a solution.

 

[you2]

I find the interface much worse; but the upgrade is required for various reasons mentioned here and elsewhere. Those reason are mostly artificial. Furthermore I have encountered far more bugs in windows 10 than windows 7. I'm not going to list them here but they are trivial things that just don't work right because ms keeps shifting their models and in the process they break a lot of things (none of these are security related where features are removed or change to make the system more secure).

If one is following the Tech Journalism One can see that even that even the "Professional Complainers" that get paid for complaining starting to calm down and admits that Win 10 is Not bad.

There are people) myself among) that need to be using Win 7 on some work related computers because of specific work related software that have problems with Win 10. Otherwise most of the complains about Win 10 are majorly due to Societal Shift that Celebrates constant Dram Queening/Kinging. Giving that the Upgrade was free that that both can be maintained I really do not see the problem.



QFT

I am 20 years on this Forum, until few years ago the main focus was to find solution to specific users problems.

In the last few yeras it shifted To focus shift to "Desperately" trying to understand what the problem is. If One can not understand the specific problem One can Not offer a solution.

 

[BonzaiDuck]

There is more than one way to "do" dual-boot. I started with a dual-boot arrangement on SATA SSD and cloned it to NVME after installing the NVME driver. When Creators 1703 was released, I was one of many who had similar problems with their single-boot configuration and similar symptoms. Mine would show up as malfunctioning dual-boot menu with quirky ways to get into both and either OS until it was fixed. Ultimately a utility repair/rescue disk that has a "fix boot problems" option will rewrite the boot record and sort it out.

It happened again with version 1709 Fall Creators, and the same solution routinely fixed it.

You can have "dual-boot" with both OSes using the same system volume.

You can install a dual-boot with each OS on its own volume but on the same physical disk.

You could install the OSes on different physical disks. In that case you would have the boot record on one or the other disks but not both.

My "two volumes, one physical disk" configuration has only required repair-disk intervention for major feature upgrades as a routine. I do backups through the later OS, which still images the inactive Win 7 volumes/partitions to images that are restorable.

That has so far been the constant level of maintenance attention I must devote to the configuration. Most of my time has been consumed in simply discovering -- to a reliable degree -- the routine method of keeping it alive and working. After that, I'm expecting only the occasional and swift routine repair disc intervention.

However, this is recommended. whether two volumes on a single physical disk or different OS volumes on different physical disks, you should deprive the inactive OS of a drive letter when using the other and active OS. You do not want to have "offline writes" for either particular OS. This idea extends to an additional physical disk that is used for data.

Especially if you cache those drives, you want to avoid offline writes. If you share the same data between the OSes stored on the same physical disk and the same logical volume, then you can safely have offline writes of one OS in relation to the other if there is no caching to another device, or if you do RAM-caching and the caches die after each reboot/restart.

 

[EpicSurvivor]

Won't quote replies because its too much content, thank you all for the great valid responses stated above. Despite the concern of something not working after an update or something else happening I must say I am very pleased at how nice Windows 10 Interface is. I am loving it so far. Guess with time will see the real negative and positive effects. Today is basically my first day really using it 5/27/18 so far so good.

Not sure if I should make a separate thread or ask here, you guys decide. But I have a Gigabyte Motherboard (Signature) which uses Creative Audio Driver. However after downloading and installing latest version from manufacturer website I was unable to get any sound going through to the Computer. Not until I uninstalled and removed the drivers was I able to finally get sound. However I really like the quality of the Creative Audio Drivers compared to stock sound. Any suggestions, tips or ideas what could have caused this?

I will reinstall again and see if the issue persist after installing the Creative Audio Driver again, maybe it was a bug. Will see. Let me know what you guys think at this point.
Thanks

 

[you2]

You might check if there is a newer drivers. The auto update thing MS provides never seems to find the latest driver so I would check gigabyte and creative websites. I don't know which generation board you have but vaguely I think a lot of special drivers (like creative) had issues when windows 10 first came out. That's just from reading. To be honest when I upgraded my system in Dec from 7 to 10 i had no drivers issues but creative is a bit less mainstream then the stuff i'm using.

 

[EpicSurvivor]

You might check if there is a newer drivers. The auto update thing MS provides never seems to find the latest driver so I would check gigabyte and creative websites. I don't know which generation board you have but vaguely I think a lot of special drivers (like creative) had issues when windows 10 first came out. That's just from reading. To be honest when I upgraded my system in Dec from 7 to 10 i had no drivers issues but creative is a bit less mainstream then the stuff i'm using.

My Motherboard is on my signature. I just downloaded the Audio driver from the Manufacturer website. Now Its working Via Headphones settings but not Via Speaker settings (No sound there)

 

[JackMDS]

Microsoft Does Not write drivers. Manufactures write Drivers and submit it as suggest Drivers.

The result varies. Some vendors deliberately provide plain Vanilla drivers so that the user will go to their site to get a More elaborate Drivers, Others do the opposite.

What ever is done is not guided by technology or Loving the consumers. It done in a way that the specific Vendor perceives what isit good for it Business Model.

Unfortunately this type of ""Sever Personalty Disorder"" dominates all commerce these days.

 

[EpicSurvivor]

Microsoft Does Not write drivers. Manufactures write Drivers and submit it as suggest Drivers.

The result varies. Some vendors deliberately provide plain Vanilla drivers so that the user will go to their site to get a More elaborate Drivers, Others do the opposite.

What ever is done is not guided by technology or Loving the consumers. It done in a way that the specific Vendor perceives what isit good for it Business Model.

Unfortunately this type of ""Sever Personalty Disorder"" dominates all commerce these days.

Indeed but as a more knowledgeable veteran of Windows 10 would you happen to know how to fix the issue above?

 

[UsandThem]

Indeed but as a more knowledgeable veteran of Windows 10 would you happen to know how to fix the issue above?

FYI, JackMDS is pretty dang knowledgeable on the software stuff.

But someone a lot less knowledgeable like me would think that Windows is using the wrong default audio device, and is maybe defaulting it to your HDMI cable or similar. Right click on the speaker in your icon area (could be a Windows one and a different Realtek one), and make sure the output is to the correct thing.