How many Seal Team 6 squad members would it take to defeat the ancient Roman Empire?

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ProfJohn

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I actually enjoy these kinds of threads. :)

The Romans wouldn't be as easy to defeat as some of you are pretending. Don't forget that they did have artillery (catapults and the like), so a bombardment followed by a couple waves of cavalry could overrun the SEAL's position. Sure, the SEALs would inflict heavy damage and casualties and might even come out on top, but with an ample bombardment from artillery and archers with waves of cavalry coming in, the SEALs might have trouble.
A catapults effective range was 300 meters or less.

The effective range of an M-16 is 550-800. The romans wouldn't get close enough.

Now lets say you send 1000 cavalry charging at 10 seals. Even with just guns the seals could probably break the charge by firing into the horses.

Keep in mind that there would be people on those horses and when everyone around them starts to fall left and right people tend to get scared.


Of course all this assumes that the seals are using the endless ammo god hack...
 

IndyColtsFan

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How are the Romans supposed to get their catapults and the like in range? I'd think that the Seals would have much better range with modern weapons.

Diversion. Send a few waves of cavalry at them with archer support and while that's happening, move the catapults into range and fire. All it takes is one lucky shot and the SEALs are in trouble.
 

IndyColtsFan

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A catapults effective range was 300 meters or less.

The effective range of an M-16 is 550-800. The romans wouldn't get close enough.

Now lets say you send 1000 cavalry charging at 10 seals. Even with just guns the seals could probably break the charge by firing into the horses.

Keep in mind that there would be people on those horses and when everyone around them starts to fall left and right people tend to get scared.

Of course all this assumes that the seals are using the endless ammo god hack...

Yeah, that's they key. I suppose if they're in a defensible enough position that is only approachable from one direction, there is no way you'll extricate them without modern weapons given their god mode hack. But hey, if they get a god mode hack, so do the Romans -- look over there! Here comes Jupiter and his thunderbolts. :D
 

Evadman

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Who is manning the nuclear weapon launchers?
You don't need to man them. Briefcase nukes. Set them around in strategic places with a timer. A Roman wouldn't know anything about anything on the inside of the case. Just make the briefcase look like a big rock. I'm assuming infinite ammo means any kind of ammo, which means a million briefcase nukes are available. even if a roman opened it, they would probably worship it because of the pretty lights in it that weren't coming from the sun.

As for those talking about the marines being overrun, why in the world would the marines stay in one spot against a massive force? Also, the Romans would never be able to get 2.5 million soldiers all in one spot. Even if the roams were able to do that, a few well placed conventional bombs would solve that problem.

If bomb's aren't available, and 2.5 million warriors actually amassed, then 4 marines on 4 miniguns could lay down a wall of lead. 4 miniguns could lay out 2.5 million rounds in 104 minutes. It isn't even like aim really matters with 2.5 million soldiers. heck, mount the miniguns and have each Marine use 2 each. That gives 8 miniguns, and 5 million rounds in about 100 minutes. Use armor piercing rounds, and you could probably take down 3 or 4 Roman's per round. The first 60 seconds would be abslute mayhem, and I seriously doubt any Romans would continue advancing.

A simple high voltage electric fence would probably work, with no ammo at all.

The catapults and such that the Roman's had access to did not have anywhere near the range of a gun. A catapult has an effective range of a hundred yards at best. So catapults are out. The best bet would be a bow and arrow. With enough of them, the archers wouldn't have to be accurate, and with an arrow velocity of 300 ft/sec, an arrow can get to almost a thousand yards.
 

AstroManLuca

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Yeah, that's they key. I suppose if they're in a defensible enough position that is only approachable from one direction, there is no way you'll extricate them without modern weapons given their god mode hack. But hey, if they get a god mode hack, so do the Romans -- look over there! Here comes Jupiter and his thunderbolts. :D

And like I brought up earlier, if the SEALs are holed up in some easily defensible choke point, they're not doing a whole lot to "defeat" the Roman army. The Romans might send a few waves in, but they'd figure out pretty soon that they can't take them head on and do any kind of damage. They'd just sit and wait - if there's only one way in, then there's only one way out too.

In other words, a team of SEALs could survive, but they couldn't defeat the Romans unless they just sent wave after wave of suicide charges until everyone had died. Which would be pretty damn stupid, and the Romans were not stupid.
 
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amish

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a hand full.

1. seals travel to rome.
2. seals blend into the population
3. seals spread our modern day germs to the general populace
4. rome falls due to a plague of the flu.
5. ....
6. seals take over rome
7. army is defunded and disbanded by seal team.

seals win without even pulling a trigger.
 

ProfJohn

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Yeah, that's they key. I suppose if they're in a defensible enough position that is only approachable from one direction, there is no way you'll extricate them without modern weapons given their god mode hack. But hey, if they get a god mode hack, so do the Romans -- look over there! Here comes Jupiter and his thunderbolts. :D
That's cheating!!

You taking orders from Belichick now?
 

lupi

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Giving them unlimited ammo, I'd go with about 10. Letting them also not have to worry about manually reloading or weapon fatigue, I'd say you coulld knock that number down a few. Give them a vehicle to operate from and you're down to like 3 or 4.
 

ProfJohn

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Instead of seals you'd be better off with a group of mix combatants.


Think of the force from the Battle of Mogadishu.
160 men, 19 aircraft and 12 vehicles.

That force with magical unlimited ammo would have no problem marching from one side of the empire to the other.

A couple of little birds alone could defeat a roman legion easily. A couple of passes and the legion would disintegrate.
 

Ns1

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why the fuck are we even at that high?

NVG + rifles + repeat night after night = win
 

lupi

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Instead of seals you'd be better off with a group of mix combatants.


Think of the force from the Battle of Mogadishu.
160 men, 19 aircraft and 12 vehicles.

That force with magical unlimited ammo would have no problem marching from one side of the empire to the other.

A couple of little birds alone could defeat a roman legion easily. A couple of passes and the legion would disintegrate.

that force would wipe out anything pre ww2
 

gevorg

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Bare hands, no modern weapons/equipment? At least 3 for each Roman, those Romans were savages.
 

Bateluer

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Remember, we're pretty soft in our modern society. The average Roman Centurion during their prime was probably a match for at least 3 SEALs.
 

Ghiddy

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Remember, we're pretty soft in our modern society. The average Roman Centurion during their prime was probably a match for at least 3 SEALs.

Seals are incredibly fit, and taller and heavier than the average American male. Roman soldiers were smaller than the average American male according to this.
 

JTsyo

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Another issue I think would be the Romans knowing what they were up against. If the SEALs just popped in and started killing, Romans would have no idea what's going on and what their capabilities are. If they know what weapons the seals have they could do things like fill a wagon with stones to use as a shield while they advanced.
 

TXHokie

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Seals sneak into Roman camp at night, shoots Ceasar in the head and toss his body in the ocean. Game over.