How many pools at hotels, municipalities, etc will close after today.

[rudder]

March 15th is the deadline for new DOJ guidelines saying many pools accessible by the public (300,000+ across the U.S.) must have permanent lifts for the disabled. This also includes spas. Mobile lifts are not good enough.

http://www.hospitalitynet.org/news/4055192.html

That guy with a suit hanging around the pool this summer... he is a trial lawyer looking for violators. We have all heard restaurants being harassed by lawsuits claiming stuff like the bathroom sink was one inch to high. Pool owners/managers are now faced with costly upgrades and not enough resources to have them installed. The cost of these systems could overburden some community pools. Hotel owners wanted to be able to use mobile lifts and have one that can be tucked away since most hotels don't have lifeguards. They would also be cheaper. But now the hotel has to install a lift system and possibly two if they have a spa.

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Who the F thought this stupid rule up? FFS this is about as stupid as it gets... and that says alot seeing as how the DOJ operates.

 

[rstove02]

Watch John Stossel's Illegal Everything on youtube. Goes into how quantity rather than quality of new laws is making everyone a multi-felon.

 

[Theb]

So people who can't move their legs and/or arms will be able to get into pools more easily?

This will end well.

 

[DesiPower]

So people who can't move their legs and/or arms will be able to get into pools more easily?

This will end well.

This, oh the political correctness...

 

[AyashiKaibutsu]

My dad is paraplegic. I watched him having to pretty much move to another state to live reasonably because of lack of accommodations in our home town, and even I think this is pushing it.

 

[waggy]

i said it before. The ADA started off with good intentions then got sidetracked. it is not crappy law that is doing more harm then good.

 

[Jaskalas]

Watch John Stossel's Illegal Everything on youtube. Goes into how quantity rather than quality of new laws is making everyone a multi-felon.

They cannot selectively enforce the laws against lawful dissenters now can they? If they making everything illegal then those who speak up against them will be examined and then booked for one thing or another.

That's how you make dissent illegal.

 

[piasabird]

Just get one of those engine lifts on wheels and lower them over the side. Go to the kiddie pool and just walk down into the pool if you can. How you going to swim in the pool if you cant get into it. Make them pass a swimming test first.

Did they think this rule out?

Most large swimming pools I have seen lately have a very shallow shallow end like 1-2 feet for small children. However, many pools start at about 3 feet or so. Some pools just are not designed for people without the use of their legs.

Why is the government making stupid laws when it cant even balance the budget?

 

[piasabird]

The government selectively enforces laws all the time. Some laws in themselves are designed for selective enforcement. Ever looked at the tax code?

 

[boomerang]

Why is the government making stupid laws when it cant even balance the budget?

If they didn't make stupid laws the voters might decide we only need them part time. It's important they look busy.

 

[shortylickens]

Watch John Stossel's Illegal Everything on youtube. Goes into how quantity rather than quality of new laws is making everyone a multi-felon.

I already knew that, but having an expert confirm it makes me happy.

 

[MovingTarget]

As an ardent supporter of both the ADA and disability rights, I think this is ridiculous.

 

[Throckmorton]

What's wrong with portable lifts? Are they "degrading" or something?

 

[BoberFett]

Under the ADA I believe women's bathrooms should be forced to have urinals.

Or we could recognize at some point that life isn't fair.

 

[RedChief]

Just get one of those engine lifts on wheels and lower them over the side. Go to the kiddie pool and just walk down into the pool if you can. How you going to swim in the pool if you cant get into it. Make them pass a swimming test first.

Did they think this rule out?

Most large swimming pools I have seen lately have a very shallow shallow end like 1-2 feet for small children. However, many pools start at about 3 feet or so. Some pools just are not designed for people without the use of their legs.

Why is the government making stupid laws when it cant even balance the budget?

BTW, movable lifts were allowed. No longer though. Have a pool and a separate spa? The you need a lift for each.

 

[Fern]

So people who can't move their legs and/or arms will be able to get into pools more easily?

This will end well.

lol

Fern

 

[Fern]

Fantastically stupid.

Fern

 

[Darwin333]

As an ardent supporter of both the ADA and disability rights, I think this is ridiculous.

The thing I find rather frightening is that I will bet you a weeks pay that this will be selectively enforced because most reasonable people (you and I) agree that it is ridiculous. Most people enforcing the law will as well (other than the bastard lawyers but thats another topic) so when this law is enforced who do you think it will be enforced against?

 

[Bowfinger]

As an ardent supporter of both the ADA and disability rights, I think this is ridiculous.

This. I'm all for businesses making reasonable accommodations for the disabled, but the key word here is "reasonable". This is ridiculous. I'm sorry, but as BoberFett notes, sometimes life isn't fair.

 

[schneiderguy]

inb4 Craig234 enlightens us as to how this is an excellent idea.

 

[EagleKeeper]

Unable to see the guidelines, but hotel pools are for guests on private property. Same with fitness centre pools. Only true public access pools are government run

 

[HamburgerBoy]

Unable to see the guidelines, but hotel pools are for guests on private property. Same with fitness centre pools. Only true public access pools are government run

I don't think public access = public owned, at least in the context of this story.

 

[Ronstang]

Our government has become nothing but useless, ineffective, and downright stupid. If it wasn't so scary it would fucking hilarious.

 

[waggy]

The thing I find rather frightening is that I will bet you a weeks pay that this will be selectively enforced because most reasonable people (you and I) agree that it is ridiculous. Most people enforcing the law will as well (other than the bastard lawyers but thats another topic) so when this law is enforced who do you think it will be enforced against?

that don't matter. I doubt its enforced very much at all.

the issue is going to be the lawsuits (wich is the major problem with the ADA). you are going to have places blanket sueing motels over this. no matter if their ain't a person actually having issues with it.