How many places is smoking still legal indoors?

notfred

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I don't mean in private houses, but where can you say, light up a cgiarette at your desk at work, or walk into a target and have people smoking in it?

I don't think I've seen anyone smoke indoors, aside from in thier own home, in years. This might jsut be a california thing, but I wanted to know about the rest if the country.

P.S. Bars don't count.
 

Amused

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Originally posted by: notfred
I don't mean in private houses, but where can you say, light up a cgiarette at your desk at work, or walk into a target and have people smoking in it?

I don't think I've seen anyone smoke indoors, aside from in thier own home, in years. This might jsut be a california thing, but I wanted to know about the rest if the country.

P.S. Bars don't count.

Smoking is still allowed in restaurants here in central IL. That and bars is about the only place it's allowed here I know it's allowed most places in NC, or at least it was 5 years ago. It was weird to see people smoking in malls.

CA has the most strict anti smoking rules of just about any state.
 

Mill

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Only place public smoking is allowed in AL is in restaurants and private businesses. Most auto parts stores allow smoking as well.
 

Amused

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The government should not be telling private business owners what may happen on their property. If you don't like smoke, don't patronize businesses that allow it and reward businesses that don't allow it by giving them your business.
 

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Originally posted by: Electric Amish
The restaraunts in Ft. Lauderdale still allow it.

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But not for long. Smoking will be totally gone in a few months.
 

pulse8

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Originally posted by: Amused
The government should not be telling private business owners what may happen on their property. If you don't like smoke, don't patronize businesses that allow it and reward businesses that don't allow it by giving them your business.

The problem, however, is that if you allow it, pretty much all businesses will allow it and then there's ultimately no place to go.
 

Amused

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Originally posted by: pulse8
Originally posted by: Amused
The government should not be telling private business owners what may happen on their property. If you don't like smoke, don't patronize businesses that allow it and reward businesses that don't allow it by giving them your business.

The problem, however, is that if you allow it, pretty much all businesses will allow it and then there's ultimately no place to go.

Not any more. Not with less than 25% of the population smoking these days. I could allow smoking in my stores, but do not. Many restaurants around here do the same, or contain smoking to the bar area only.

Allowing smoking anyplace but a bar is just bad business these days.
 

Aceshigh

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Originally posted by: Amused
The government should not be telling private business owners what may happen on their property. If you don't like smoke, don't patronize businesses that allow it and reward businesses that don't allow it by giving them your business.

Smoking is harmful to the public health. If someone wants to sit next to me and inject nicotine into their veins have no problem with that, but when a person smokes in public others nearby are forced to inhale their secondhand smoke.

Using the logic of your argument, it would be legal for restaraunts to add arsenic and other poisons to their foods. After all, if you don't like arsenic, don't patronize businesses that include it in their dishes.
 
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Originally posted by: Aceshigh
Originally posted by: Amused
The government should not be telling private business owners what may happen on their property. If you don't like smoke, don't patronize businesses that allow it and reward businesses that don't allow it by giving them your business.

Smoking is harmful to the public health. If someone wants to sit next to me and inject nicotine into their veins have no problem with that, but when a person smokes in public others nearby are forced to inhale their secondhand smoke.

Using the logic of your argument, it would be legal for restaraunts to add arsenic and other poisons to their foods. After all, if you don't like arsenic, don't patronize businesses that include it in their dishes.

And using your logic people would drop dead at the first whiff of cigarette smoke.
 

Amused

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Originally posted by: Aceshigh
Originally posted by: Amused
The government should not be telling private business owners what may happen on their property. If you don't like smoke, don't patronize businesses that allow it and reward businesses that don't allow it by giving them your business.

Smoking is harmful to the public health. If someone wants to sit next to me and inject nicotine into their veins have no problem with that, but when a person smokes in public others nearby are forced to inhale their secondhand smoke.

Using the logic of your argument, it would be legal for restaraunts to add arsenic and other poisons to their foods. After all, if you don't like arsenic, don't patronize businesses that include it in their dishes.

If a restaurant tells you there is poison in your food, and you eat it, who's fault is that?

The point is, you can not help but immediately know a place allows smoking, and therefore the supposed risk is NOT unknown to you.

Again, the government has no place telling private business owners what they may do on, or allow on, their private property.
 

notfred

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Originally posted by: Amused<brAgain, the government has no place telling private business owners what they may do on, or allow on, their private property.

I really wish this applied to parking lots.
 

Jzero

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Using the logic of your argument, it would be legal for restaraunts to add arsenic and other poisons to their foods. After all, if you don't like arsenic, don't patronize businesses that include it in their dishes.

If the restaurant openly admits tainting the food with arsenic and if that in itself were not illegal, then you would only have yourself to blame for continue to eat there.

Using the logic of YOUR argument
when a person smokes in public others nearby are forced to inhale their secondhand smoke
you would think that a smoker held a gun to your head and made you sit next to them and inhale their smoke.

You know where the door is. Use it. Take responsibility for your OWN actions and stop blaming others. There are non-smoking establishments. Go there. If smoking restaurants felt they could drive revenue by going no-smoking, they would. Vote with your feet.