how many people in industry.... ?

[Walleye]

er... in computer science type fields


do you see who brute forced their way through learning, and never went to college? by that i mean learned all their knowledge from technical manuals and text books, and never took classes in the field?

my father's saying i should start doing that in addition to going to college... i'm just wondering how feasible it is, and how often it's done.

 

[Walleye]

^^^

 

[Gibson486]

I think he's just telling you to get a head start....

 

[T2T III]

do you see who brute forced their way through learning, and never went to college? by that i mean learned all their knowledge from technical manuals and text books, and never took classes in the field?

I worked in I.T. for about 10 years before completing my Bachelors degree in CIS. I would not recommend going in reverse-order though. Companies will see that you don't have a degree and try to short-change you by offering you a lower salary. If you have your degree when you start to work for them, chances are the pay level will be higher. I've witnessed this time-and-time again with many companies.

 

[fs5]

Originally posted by: Gibson486
I think he's just telling you to get a head start....

agreed, half the stuff you'll be doing as a software engineer you won't learn in college.

edit: make that 90%

 

[Walleye]

Originally posted by: Tiles2Tech

do you see who brute forced their way through learning, and never went to college? by that i mean learned all their knowledge from technical manuals and text books, and never took classes in the field?

I worked in I.T. for about 10 years before completing my Bachelors degree in CIS. I would not recommend going in reverse-order though. Companies will see that you don't have a degree and try to short-change you by offering you a lower salary. If you have your degree when you start to work for them, chances are the pay level will be higher. I've witnessed this time-and-time again with many companies.

i had figured a company wouldnt even care and disgard you right off if you didnt have a full education 😕

 

[fs5]

Originally posted by: Walleye
i had figured a company wouldnt even care and disgard you right off if you didnt have a full education 😕

the degree requirements are a weeder tools for HR, not for engineering.

 

[Kadarin]

Originally posted by: Walleye

Originally posted by: Tiles2Tech

do you see who brute forced their way through learning, and never went to college? by that i mean learned all their knowledge from technical manuals and text books, and never took classes in the field?

I worked in I.T. for about 10 years before completing my Bachelors degree in CIS. I would not recommend going in reverse-order though. Companies will see that you don't have a degree and try to short-change you by offering you a lower salary. If you have your degree when you start to work for them, chances are the pay level will be higher. I've witnessed this time-and-time again with many companies.

i had figured a company wouldnt even care and disgard you right off if you didnt have a full education 😕

Walleye, when you go through technical interviews, the two things that matter most are your personality and how well you are able to deal with other people, and your technical knowledge, what you know and how well you know it. Your level of education is window dressing.

Of course, the above only applies if you have experience in the field for the position for which you are applying.

 

[bleeb]

Get out of the Computer Science field. It's a dead end job and you're basically someone's b*tch for the rest of your life. Upper business management will bend you over and treat you like a sweet boy fresh in prison. The necessity to continually up your education. No respect. Mostly contract work. No employee-employer loyalty. If things get tight, you get the lay-off notice and they move work to India. There is always someone smarter, younger, and more willing to work for LESS than you. Do you really want to be behind the cubical the rest of your life? Benefits suck. Good Luck dawg.

 

[T2T III]

Originally posted by: Walleye

Originally posted by: Tiles2Tech

do you see who brute forced their way through learning, and never went to college? by that i mean learned all their knowledge from technical manuals and text books, and never took classes in the field?

I worked in I.T. for about 10 years before completing my Bachelors degree in CIS. I would not recommend going in reverse-order though. Companies will see that you don't have a degree and try to short-change you by offering you a lower salary. If you have your degree when you start to work for them, chances are the pay level will be higher. I've witnessed this time-and-time again with many companies.

i had figured a company wouldnt even care and disgard you right off if you didnt have a full education 😕

Actually, when I started with the very large corporation, I entered into a field that did not require a degree. My military experience got me the position. From there, I cross-trained into the I.T. area by applying for an internal position that was a "junior" position. From there, I worked my way up the ranks. I still feel that results of this nature are not that typical. I was quite lucky by being able to prove my abilities - even though I didn't initially have that degree. But, by taking classes on nights and weekends, the company did pay for over $40K of my education. 🙂

 

[djNickb]

I went to college mainly because it was free (academic scholarship). I started in computer engineering, moved into computer science, and finished in computer information systems. I'm glad that I finished there because that degree was based out of the business college so I have a minor in business and was required to take management, marketing, accounting, and finance classes. Overall I think the blend of tech/business will be quite helpful as I'm not entirely business or entirely computers but a mix of the two.

 

[damiano]

Originally posted by: fivespeed5

Originally posted by: Gibson486
I think he's just telling you to get a head start....

agreed, half the stuff you'll be doing as a software engineer you won't learn in college.

edit: make that 90%

yep but when it's time to become the boss of the self made geeks, the one who has the degree wins
trust me 😉

 

[Encryptic]

I didn't go to college and taught myself everything I knew or learned from fellow geeks. I wouldn't say that college is bad by any means, but the experience you gain from doing stuff in the real world is invaluable.