How many people here have E6400's that don't make 3.2GHz?

[Goi]

What about an E6300 with stock cooling at stock Vcore with regular DDR-667 memory? How high can I hope to clock that on say an Asus P5B? I'm asking because I'm helping a less computer savvy friend build one and I'm hoping to overclock it for him. I don't have much time to play with it though so I'd have to be conservative with the parameters, which means I probably don't want to increase the voltages without any extra cooling or time to test out the stability.

 

[DrKrFfXx]

Something between 333 and 350 FSB will be a nice risk free overclock.

If he can afford an E6400... He should go for it, higher multiplier will help reaching higher speeds since he's ram speed limited.

 

[n7]

Originally posted by: Zap

Originally posted by: n7
All C2Ds will hit around 3200+ MHz; i don't know of a single instance where they cannot.

Would you be willing to put money on that?

People were saying the same about Opterons. I purchased three Opteron 144 chips. Two of them were an easy 2.7GHz+, the third one (tested on same hardware) couldn't even hit 2.4GHz with a bunch of voltage.

There's a guy at some LAN parties I go to who has a C2D, either an E6300 or E6400 on an Asus 975X chipset board. Won't do over about 2.8GHz - which is still very respectable. Now, perhaps there's something else holding him back, but it sure isn't any BIOS settings (a number of us checked) and it isn't from bad choice in components. Of course being at a LAN party we weren't about to start swapping parts into someone else's system to find out what was holding it back.

My preference is to say something more in the lines of, "It's very likely you will get X.XGHz, though not 100% guaranteed," instead of a blanket statement stating, "they all can do that." What will happen eventually is someone will make an angry post here saying, "why can't mine?"

Since you can't read between the lines, let me clarify:

When coupled with a good motherboard & good RAM & a half decent knowledge of OCing, all C2Ds will achieve 3200+ MHz, the only question is how much vcore needed.

Happy now ?


Oh, & P.S: Anyone saying all Opterons would hit 2700 MHz is an idiot, since that simply wasn't true.

 

[OcHungry]

Originally posted by: n7

Originally posted by: Zap

Originally posted by: n7
All C2Ds will hit around 3200+ MHz; i don't know of a single instance where they cannot.

Would you be willing to put money on that?

People were saying the same about Opterons. I purchased three Opteron 144 chips. Two of them were an easy 2.7GHz+, the third one (tested on same hardware) couldn't even hit 2.4GHz with a bunch of voltage.

There's a guy at some LAN parties I go to who has a C2D, either an E6300 or E6400 on an Asus 975X chipset board. Won't do over about 2.8GHz - which is still very respectable. Now, perhaps there's something else holding him back, but it sure isn't any BIOS settings (a number of us checked) and it isn't from bad choice in components. Of course being at a LAN party we weren't about to start swapping parts into someone else's system to find out what was holding it back.

My preference is to say something more in the lines of, "It's very likely you will get X.XGHz, though not 100% guaranteed," instead of a blanket statement stating, "they all can do that." What will happen eventually is someone will make an angry post here saying, "why can't mine?"

Since you can't read between the lines, let me clarify:

When coupled with a good motherboard & good RAM & a half decent knowledge of OCing, all C2Ds will achieve 3200+ MHz, the only question is how much vcore needed.

Happy now ?


Oh, & P.S: Anyone saying all Opterons would hit 2700 MHz is an idiot, since that simply wasn't true.

You know, All along I was under the impression that you are rude to me personally for some foolish reasons you'd sown up in your mind. I now realize you lack behavioral quality and are rude to anyone. What?s more remarkable is that AT hasn?t caught up w/ you in so long.

 

[Markfw]

Originally posted by: OcHungry

Originally posted by: n7

Originally posted by: Zap

Originally posted by: n7
All C2Ds will hit around 3200+ MHz; i don't know of a single instance where they cannot.

Would you be willing to put money on that?

People were saying the same about Opterons. I purchased three Opteron 144 chips. Two of them were an easy 2.7GHz+, the third one (tested on same hardware) couldn't even hit 2.4GHz with a bunch of voltage.

There's a guy at some LAN parties I go to who has a C2D, either an E6300 or E6400 on an Asus 975X chipset board. Won't do over about 2.8GHz - which is still very respectable. Now, perhaps there's something else holding him back, but it sure isn't any BIOS settings (a number of us checked) and it isn't from bad choice in components. Of course being at a LAN party we weren't about to start swapping parts into someone else's system to find out what was holding it back.

My preference is to say something more in the lines of, "It's very likely you will get X.XGHz, though not 100% guaranteed," instead of a blanket statement stating, "they all can do that." What will happen eventually is someone will make an angry post here saying, "why can't mine?"

Since you can't read between the lines, let me clarify:

When coupled with a good motherboard & good RAM & a half decent knowledge of OCing, all C2Ds will achieve 3200+ MHz, the only question is how much vcore needed.

Happy now ?


Oh, & P.S: Anyone saying all Opterons would hit 2700 MHz is an idiot, since that simply wasn't true.

You know, All along I was under the impression that you are rude to me personally for some foolish reasons you'd sown up in your mind. I now realize you lack behavioral quality and are rude to anyone. What?s more remarkable is that AT hasn?t caught up w/ you in so long.

OC, you haven't been banned yet ??? You are the rudest, most ignorant poster I may have ever seen, pot calling the kettle black ?

Good troll example here, you haven;t even posted anything in this thread, yet you come in to insult n7 for no reason....

 

[n7]

He's just upset because of my Opteron comment :laugh:

Ironically enough, i was very happy about how well my Opty 165 ran as my primary rig till it was replaced with my E6400, & i'm very happy with how well it runs on my HTPC.

I run it undervolted to 1.25V @ 2205 MHz with the stock cooler on silent mode, which makes for a nice quiet PC.

But it never could do 2.7 GHz stable, & i know many others couldn't either.

C2Ds though, as a much more consistent beast.
I stated 3200 MHz to be conservative, but that's actually kinda low.
I'd venture to say most would do 3400 MHz, but from 3.0-3.4 GHz, you tend to need a lot more vcore, so i might be pushing my luck saying they all do 3.4 GHz

I don't think OCHungry quite comprehends the concept of being unbiased & buying what gives best performance for the money though, so most likely he's just going to respond with some more FUD or bashing.

 

[Hulk]

Hmm. Unless I'm missing something NO ONE in this thread has reported an E6400 not making 3.2 right? I mean there are friends who's haven't made it but no firsthand experience.

 

[Markfw]

Dude.... I have a E6300 that won't go over 2.1, but 2 @ over 3.4. The point is twofold, first, they will all do 3.2 or better, but 2, you need a good motherboard or memory to get there.....

 

[Goi]

Originally posted by: Hulk
Hmm. Unless I'm missing something NO ONE in this thread has reported an E6400 not making 3.2 right? I mean there are friends who's haven't made it but no firsthand experience.

Actually I just assembled a PC for a friend just now, and after reading this thread I was pretty encouraged, but I couldn't get over 280MHz FSB. 290MHz and above would cause the system to not even POST. This is with stock voltage/hsf/etc coz I didn't have a lot of time. The rest of the system is as follows:
C2D E6400
Asus P5B
2x1GB TwinMos DDR2-667 memory
X1950Pro
Hitachi 320GB SATA2
Hitachi 120GB IDE
Samsung 18X DVD burner
Seventeam 460W PSU

Any idea what I might be doing wrong?

 

[markymoo]

All things being equal i first look at your psu first and how much hardware you got attached. Unplug as much hardware as you can including usb. Anybody using a poor psu will handicap themselves from the start. you need a minimum $150 motherboard and bios with plenty of options. I dont think 3.2 is really pushing the 6400. I think your hardware is not upto scratch more likely than cpu not being able to do it whatever the stepping week.

Originally posted by: OcHungry
You know, All along I was under the impression that you are rude to me personally for some foolish reasons you'd sown up in your mind. I now realize you lack behavioral quality and are rude to anyone. What?s more remarkable is that AT hasn?t caught up w/ you in so long.

@OcHungry
Amd elitist dont know it all. I see you talking about yourself again.

 

[Markfw]

You don;t need a $150 motherboard. I have 2 S3 boards ($116 at the time, not $125), with 6300's, both will run 3.5, but not stable. Stable at 3.4 and 3.43. Duvie also has 2 S3 boards and I think his two are both at 3.43

 

[markymoo]

well im here in the uk prices are way overpriced. an s3 board does cost $150 here. anybody into overclocking would want to get a decent board in first place. there more stable and use better quality capacitors. trying to push a cheap board too far can fail it especially over time.

 

[smopoim86]

I feel sorry for some of these OCs, my e6400 will hit 4.12, rock stable at 3.9

Watercooled at 1.55volts

btw, i run it at 3.6 24/7, at 1.4 volts. No reason to cook it all the time

 

[mryoso]

maybe the results of my e6400 could help . i really feel that im one of those who got lower than normal results.


----------------------
Voltage CPU Speed
----------------------
1.275 2800
1.325 2920
1.35 3000
1.375 3010
1.4 3080
1.4 3220
1.45 3200
1.475 3240
1.5 3280

*setting i run at 24/7

 

[Duvie]

Originally posted by: mryoso
maybe the results of my e6400 could help . i really feel that im one of those who got lower than normal results.


----------------------
Voltage CPU Speed
----------------------
1.275 2800
1.325 2920
1.35 3000
1.375 3010
1.4 3080
1.4 3220
1.45 3200
1.475 3240
1.5 3280

*setting i run at 24/7

thise seem like bios set vcore...What are you actually getting once you are in windows under idle and load....

I can get 3.2ghz on my E6400 at 1.375 in bios but it is only 1.36v at idle and loads to 1.34v.....I need 1.475v set to get 3.4ghz orthos stable, Again 1.46v idle and 1.44v load...

Looks similar 200+mhz increase from 1.375 to 1.475v set in bios....


What motherbpard are you using?

 

[mryoso]

oops, a bit late but

Biosset/Windows/Windows-Load
------------------------------------
1.2750/1.240/1.248
1.3250/1.288/1.272
1.3500/1.312/1.296
1.4000/1.360/1.344
1.4375/1.400/1.376
1.4500/1.408/1.392
1.4625/1.424/1.408
1.4750/1.432/1.416
1.5000/1.213/1.440

motherboard = p5b deluxe

what vcore do you think is safe to run @ 24/7 (bios set/actual/loaded)?