How many of you...

[oiprocs]

...care whether the classes you took in college relate to your job? Some people have a career in which they use very few of the classes they took in college?

Does it matter that you paid X amount of dollars for a piece of paper? Or does the whole college experience overshadow that?

 

[imported_LoKe]

College is just to get you in.

 

[Reckoner]

Originally posted by: LoKe
College is just to get you in debt.

Fixed

 

[imported_LoKe]

Originally posted by: PaulNEPats

Originally posted by: LoKe
College is just to get you in debt.

Fixed

If you took the right classes, work should have that paid off pretty quickly.

 

[Reckoner]

Originally posted by: LoKe

Originally posted by: PaulNEPats

Originally posted by: LoKe
College is just to get you in debt.

Fixed

If you took the right classes, work should have that paid off pretty quickly.

Not these days when you pay 30-35k a year in tuition expenses. Plus, college degrees are a dime a dozen. Nobody gives a shit if someone has a degree anymore. It's like the High School Diploma Equivalent 10-15 years ago.

 

[Whoozyerdaddy]

Originally posted by: LoKe

Originally posted by: PaulNEPats

Originally posted by: LoKe
College is just to get you in debt.

Fixed

If you took the right classes, work should have that paid off pretty quickly.

Talk to a school teacher.

It amazes me how people will go $50k in debt to land a $36k job. I made more selling TVs than most people with four year degrees do.

 

[imported_LoKe]

Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy

Originally posted by: LoKe

Originally posted by: PaulNEPats

Originally posted by: LoKe
College is just to get you in debt.

Fixed

If you took the right classes, work should have that paid off pretty quickly.

Talk to a school teacher.

It amazes me how people will go $50k in debt to land a $36k job. I made more selling TVs than most people with four year degrees do.

That's why I said took the right classes.

 

[thepd7]

Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy

Originally posted by: LoKe

Originally posted by: PaulNEPats

Originally posted by: LoKe
College is just to get you in debt.

Fixed

If you took the right classes, work should have that paid off pretty quickly.

Talk to a school teacher.

It amazes me how people will go $50k in debt to land a $36k job. I made more selling TVs than most people with four year degrees do.

who the hell makes $36k with a college degree? even teachers start at $40-45k.

 

[pyonir]

Originally posted by: thepd7

Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy

Originally posted by: LoKe

Originally posted by: PaulNEPats

Originally posted by: LoKe
College is just to get you in debt.

Fixed

If you took the right classes, work should have that paid off pretty quickly.

Talk to a school teacher.

It amazes me how people will go $50k in debt to land a $36k job. I made more selling TVs than most people with four year degrees do.

who the hell makes $36k with a college degree? even teachers start at $40-45k.

A good friend of mine is a teacher in his second year and makes less than 35k

 

[magomago]

Originally posted by: PaulNEPats

Originally posted by: LoKe

Originally posted by: PaulNEPats

Originally posted by: LoKe
College is just to get you in debt.

Fixed

If you took the right classes, work should have that paid off pretty quickly.

Not these days when you pay 30-35k a year in tuition expenses. Plus, college degrees are a dime a dozen. Nobody gives a shit if someone has a degree anymore. It's like the High School Diploma Equivalent 10-15 years ago.

It depends what you are studying.

 

[oiprocs]

Originally posted by: LoKe

Originally posted by: PaulNEPats

Originally posted by: LoKe
College is just to get you in debt.

Fixed

If you took the right classes, work should have that paid off pretty quickly.

Define pretty quickly.

 

[Strk]

Originally posted by: thepd7

Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy

Originally posted by: LoKe

Originally posted by: PaulNEPats

Originally posted by: LoKe
College is just to get you in debt.

Fixed

If you took the right classes, work should have that paid off pretty quickly.

Talk to a school teacher.

It amazes me how people will go $50k in debt to land a $36k job. I made more selling TVs than most people with four year degrees do.

who the hell makes $36k with a college degree? even teachers start at $40-45k.

You're off by a few thousand

 

[thepd7]

Originally posted by: Strk

Originally posted by: thepd7

Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy

Originally posted by: LoKe

Originally posted by: PaulNEPats

Originally posted by: LoKe
College is just to get you in debt.

Fixed

If you took the right classes, work should have that paid off pretty quickly.

Talk to a school teacher.

It amazes me how people will go $50k in debt to land a $36k job. I made more selling TVs than most people with four year degrees do.

who the hell makes $36k with a college degree? even teachers start at $40-45k.

You're off by a few thousand

So $44k isn't between $40-$45k? Interesting I never knew that. All the districts in my area start above 40, some 46-47. Average is 44, so it is extremely likely a teacher right out of school would find 40-45.

 

[PrinceofWands]

College has nothing to do with work for me...or rather, that's merely a happy coincidence. It's purely about learning, so every class was worthwhile.

 

[PrinceofWands]

Originally posted by: thepd7

Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy

Originally posted by: LoKe

Originally posted by: PaulNEPats

Originally posted by: LoKe
College is just to get you in debt.

Fixed

If you took the right classes, work should have that paid off pretty quickly.

Talk to a school teacher.

It amazes me how people will go $50k in debt to land a $36k job. I made more selling TVs than most people with four year degrees do.

who the hell makes $36k with a college degree? even teachers start at $40-45k.

Probably 75% of college grads earn that (or under) to start. Sure, eventually they make more, but not to start. I can name a hundred people with up to double Masters that make under that. And, FYI, teacher salaries are highly location dependent. With a Masters and two Bachelors I'll start between 36 and 42, depending. However many start in the high 20's or low 30's.

 

[PrinceofWands]

Originally posted by: thepd7

Originally posted by: Strk

Originally posted by: thepd7

Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy

Originally posted by: LoKe

Originally posted by: PaulNEPats

Originally posted by: LoKe
College is just to get you in debt.

Fixed

If you took the right classes, work should have that paid off pretty quickly.

Talk to a school teacher.

It amazes me how people will go $50k in debt to land a $36k job. I made more selling TVs than most people with four year degrees do.

who the hell makes $36k with a college degree? even teachers start at $40-45k.

You're off by a few thousand

So $44k isn't between $40-$45k? Interesting I never knew that. All the districts in my area start above 40, some 46-47. Average is 44, so it is extremely likely a teacher right out of school would find 40-45.

That's the average over time...it lists starting salaries as averaging about 30k. Reading FTW!

It's also important to note that schools are all over reduced hours employees lately. Even if a full time position would pay 40k quite often all you can land at first is a .4 or .6.

 

[BrownTown]

Originally posted by: thepd7So $44k isn't between $40-$45k? Interesting I never knew that. All the districts in my area start above 40, some 46-47. Average is 44, so it is extremely likely a teacher right out of school would find 40-45.

It siad the average starting salary is 30,000$, way to not even read the first line. Also, its silly to think that if the starting salary is 44k then a starting positions would be 40k, especially if you know anything about how teachers salaries work, its based on years of experience, so a new teacher might get 30k, and a 30 year vet might get 60k. Now personally I do think it is kinda odd that a person who went to a 40,000$ a year school would go off to teach at 30,000$ a year, but since my own sister did that exact thing I really can't find it THAT odd. Personally I am going to a 45,000$ a year school (nominally, but financial aid of course), despite the fact that there are engineering school with equal rankings for a fraction of that cost where I could have gone much cheaper. But having said that, I am only incurring 20,000$ in debt, and have 10,000$ in money from summer jobs, so really 10,000$ of debt when I get out which will be easy to make up.

BUT, to the OP: I DO care to some degree only in that it appears as though when I get a job I will likely not have as good a skill set as I could have if my college offered classes on those subjects. My college appears to be interested only in signal processing and VLSI design and appears to think that research is all EE majors do in the real world. However since 99% of engineers actually have practical jobs, and the vast majority of those are not VLSI or signal processing I feel somewhat screwed. Furthermore the stupid career center cannot get any companies that actually do anything related to what I have studied to come to campus and instead is bringing a ton of oil companies and small consulting firms which really have little relavence to what I ahve learned so it will be hard to empress them with my resume and interviews.

 

[Jeff7]

My major is mechanical engineering technology (4yr program), so I do really care that the classes are going to be useful. For me, college is little more than a really damn long term, expensive as all hell, training class for a job. If I want to just learn, I'll buy the textbooks. Some of the teachers acts as little more than narrators of the textbook anyway.

Originally posted by: PaulNEPats
Not these days when you pay 30-35k a year in tuition expenses. Plus, college degrees are a dime a dozen. Nobody gives a shit if someone has a degree anymore. It's like the High School Diploma Equivalent 10-15 years ago.

Penn State University - about $13K per year in tuition.

I'll be looking at less than $20K in debt, hopefully, for a job that should pay around $45K/year. Hopefully.

 

[residualsquare]

Quite honestly, those of you who view college as simply a means to an end are probably wasting away your education. College is the only time in your life when you will be able to interact closely with peers of an incredibly wide array of interests and abilities. Simply regurgitating facts out of a textbook and landing a good job after graduation should be the least of your concerns. I do not use a single course I took in undergrad in my current occupation, but it was all absolutely worth it.

 

[ric1287]

i like the people who justify not going to college with "well college is stupid, a degree is meaningless".

Massive generalizations here too....not every college is 35k a year, not everyone becomes a teacher, and not everyone is a LAS major. Idiots.

 

[DAPUNISHER]

Originally posted by: LoKe


That's why I said took the right classes.

What are the right classes? The goal post keeps moving so to speak. Which professions are the best to pursue now?

 

[residualsquare]

Originally posted by: DAPUNISHER

Originally posted by: LoKe


That's why I said took the right classes.

What are the right classes? The goal post keeps moving so to speak. Which professions are the best to pursue now?

How do you expect someone else to tell you what the best profession is? The best occupation is one that you love doing.

 

[DefDC]

Originally posted by: residualsquare
Quite honestly, those of you who view college as simply a means to an end are probably wasting away your education. College is the only time in your life when you will be able to interact closely with peers of an incredibly wide array of interests and abilities. Simply regurgitating facts out of a textbook and landing a good job after graduation should be the least of your concerns. I do not use a single course I took in undergrad in my current occupation, but it was all absolutely worth it.

QFT

No amount of money can buy the good times I had in college. Met my wife and many of my best friends there.

I'm not using any of what I learned in classes. My part time job working in the computer labs equaled real IT experience. None of which would have been available without college.

 

[thepd7]

I am baffled that anyone could make <$30k out of college. I could name of a list of 30-40 jobs that don't even require a degree that make more than $30k.

And yes I obviously didn't read the whole article. Still, around here (and I imagine in any wealthy suburb of almost any big city) teachers start over $40k.

That really bites, because as a recent grad I am not accepting anything less than $50k. Most likely offer for my field (EE) is $55-$60k. My buddy that is a ME got an offer from exxon mobil for $74k.

 

[Demo24]

just because you go to college does not guarantee you the right to a wonderful starting salary