Some very wise man said this long ago "I'm a very religious man, but the reasons I don't believe in your god are the same reasons you dismiss other gods".
That right there, is deep; blew my mind.
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Your evidence was the same that it was back then. What right do you have to say your religion isn't mythology and saying another is? Religion is based on belief even in the absence of evidence. One religion at any time in history is just as valid as the next. You invalidating other religions and while trying validate your own shows your ignorance.
It's pure nonsense.
I have no absence of evidence. You seem to have missed my point.
I can say my beliefs are not mythology because I know they are true. I don't call other beliefs mythology, you do.
When did I say your beliefs were mythology??? I was simply stating that yours could be as much mythology as the Greek or Roman gods. You're the only one denying anything.
But assuming is not the same as knowing. And given what the beliefs mean, if they are true, assuming could be dangerous.
Evidence is everywhere. I got some right here in my hand even. Want me to ship it to you?
Just the same you assume yours is true. Heed your own words as assuming could be dangerous.
I never understood why people get so riled up about religion. If someone doesn't believe, why should YOU care? It doesn't affect your faith (I know it doesn't affect mine), so why do people debate it so much?
There's a reason it's called faith. One can't prove it in the scientific sense, otherwise it couldn't be called believing or faith.
That's one of the reasons I enjoy going to the church my wife and her family attend, it's a Church of Christ, small maybe 30-40 people MAX. We have no hired preachers, but the men of the congregation give lessons on topics of their choosing which is related to their own life experiences. No one there ever tries to push their religion on ANYONE.
The common definition for "knowledge" is a belief that is true and justified. If I believe that there are three planets orbiting Rigel, and there just so happens to be three planets that orbit it, I still can't claim that I know it even though the belief is true, because I do not have justification for the belief. Nobody even knows if there are ANY planets orbiting Rigel.But if my beliefs are true, then I can know.
You are cordially invited to justify your beliefs to us if you expect us to accept that they are "knowledge." Absent that justification, our skepticism is rationally warranted.So you have no way of knowing, presently, that I know or not. Your only choices are assume I'm completely delusional, which isn't reasonable, or assume there's a reason I believe.
But I don't assume. I know. That's where you keep getting hung up, you don't believe I can know. But if my beliefs are true, then I can know. So you have no way of knowing, presently, that I know or not. Your only choices are assume I'm completely delusional, which isn't reasonable, or assume there's a reason I believe.
So only your belief of it being true is correct. The main word being belief. My belief that you are wrong is automatically incorrect according to you. You seem to forget the meaning of belief.
I wish there was a way to just plainly talk about the bible without the other person clicking on their agenda to rail you into their way. Man I hate that. Simply dialoguing about thoughts springing from reading the bible has been an intellectual hunger of mine for a long time. Id enjoy discussing it with a reasonable mind thats not crusading some ideology, not proselytizing. Those people seem nonexistent.
Your belief of me being wrong is automatically incorrect, because I'm not wrong. Your beliefs don't change reality. Reality simply is.
You're obviously some other weird religion cus you obviously do not follow any sect of Christianity because a real Christian would NEVER say anything like this.
Were you being sarcastic or do you simply not comprehend what I wrote?
I have read the entire bible and I am a atheist. I was raised in a religious family and went to church regularly. I took many religious study classes and also took the bible as lit in high school.
Personally the more I read the less I believed.
Your belief of me being wrong is automatically incorrect, because I'm not wrong. Your beliefs don't change reality. Reality simply is.
Thank you for showing me what circular logic is, and by invoking this new found power, I believe you're an idiot.
I didn't write in another language. It's pretty straight forward.
It isn't circular. It's a fundamental understanding of reality.
Then I don't understand why you think a Christian would never say what I said.
