How many of you consider yourselves "Liberals?"

[bigvince]

well i ended up a left liberal but i think thats crap im not liberal economicly but the quiz only asked two or three very general questions on the topic any way i was misclassified but then again i don't belive in classification ...

 

[IronMike]

Our nation today is more focused on internal problems rather than external threats. With this focus, the right-wing has successfully convinced many americans that the problems we face are the result of left-wing policies that we have had during the mid 1900's. Not many today call themselves "liberal" because of this stigma.
Many people have adopted the Socially Liberal and Economicly Conservative approach, and many have moved to a "Libertarian" position.
I still like the 60's and 70's approach that it was best to be just sightly left of center.

 

[JellyBaby]

Ah, there's nothing like a good label! I've gone from being a right-wing extremist (pre-college) to moderate liberal (college, briefly!) to centrist and now to libertarian. Pretty sure I'll go back and forth between the later until I expire.

<< , I'm a left wing Commie i love you. >>

Wow, Chees9 how do you get to sleep at night?

 

[vi edit]

I'm a Conservative, in the liberal sence.

 

[NikPreviousAcct]

Liberal?
Am I Liberal??
AAAA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!

According to that poll, I'm right-conservative.

 

[chess9]

JellyBaby: With Tominator, of course!!!

 

[vi edit]

According to that quiz, I'm libertarian. Do they have a party for that?

 

[astroview]

I'm liberal because I support traditionally left causes (at least in US):

strong pro-environment, anti-death penalty, pro abortion,

I would disagree with the anti-globalization movement though

 

[denali]

Vi_edit, Libertarian Party

 

[KingHam]

vi_edit,

Libertarian Party

KingHam

[edit]Denali beat me to it![/edit]

 

[JellyBaby]

I'm surprised so few fascist anarchists have spoken up.

 

[BoberFett]

???

How can one be a fascist anarchist?

Edit: Oh, the winking smiley. That was a joke wasn't it. Ha.

 

[JellyBaby]

BoberFett, yer gettin' old man.

 

[Raspewtin]

If everyone had to be liberal or conservative, I'd definitely prefer to be labelled liberal, because of my personal social views. Lately though, I'm becoming more and more economically conservative. &quot;Economically conservative&quot; sure sounds better than greedy and/or selfish.

 

[vi edit]

Yanked from the LP.org website -

&quot;Libertarians believe you should be able to opt out of Social Security and invest your money in your own personal retirement account. An account that you own and control - one that politicians can't get their hands on.&quot;

Dammit! I'm in.

 

[Johnlee]

Hells yeah! Make that 2 new libertarians!

 

[whooosh]

Your Personal Self-Government Score is 50%.
Your Economic Self-Government Score is 20%.

Scores falling on the centrist border are counted as centrist.

Centrist...i never knew. Enlightening thread

whooosh

 

[DanC]

So... you've given all great and thoughtful responses.

HOW DO YOU VOTE in the upcoming election?

for &quot;The man who invented the dog?&quot;

or - for the son of the former prez?

hmmmmm.... this should be interesting given the foregoing.

 

[Triumph]

i would claim the title Classical Liberal, which is actually todays Libertarian party, mostly.

 

[TGCid]

I am a liberal here, one more year till I can vote though. As to why:

Any man who is under 30, and is not a liberal, has not heart; and any man who is over 30, and is not a conservative, has no brains. &quot; - Sir Winston Churchill

 

[DanC]

Triumph...



<< i would claim the title Classical Liberal, which is actually todays Libertarian party, mostly. >>



NOT!

 

[Phalkon]

I'd consider myself a liberal person, as in opposite of being conservative.
I don't VOTE Liberal, I vote for any kind of socialist group in my area (aka, Green Party).

 

[vi edit]

Actually, Triumph is pretty much right. In the &quot;classical&quot; or &quot;historical&quot; sense, whichever you prefer, the present day Libertarian party is the most similar.

The historical liberals were people who believed in personal rights and that their property was their property, not the governments. They didn't want the government to interact in thier ways and believed that the markets should control themselves without government involvement...just like the Libertarians claim now.

Look up the definition of liberal in a world history book. It will probably say that it originated in England/Scotland/France in the mid 1700's to mid 1800's.

 

[Triumph]

&quot;Look up the definition of liberal in a world history book. It will probably say that it originated in England/Scotland/France in the mid 1700's to mid 1800's.&quot;

First time the philosophy was used in a political sense was in a Spanish legislature in the early 1800's, but the first easily recognizable format was under the Whig party in Great Britain in the 1840's. And somewhere along the line, it got construed into meaning a modern day Democrat, which is only a half truth.

vi_edit explained it pretty well, so just read his post.