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JTsyo

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How long before you can get a 42" laser TV for under 2K? I remember afters CES '08 they were at like 7K, I forget the size though. It seems to be the next step in TVs but I think I'll have to get a LCD as a stop gap.
 

JackBurton

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Originally posted by: JTsyo
How long before you can get a 42" laser TV for under 2K? I remember afters CES '08 they were at like 7K, I forget the size though. It seems to be the next step in TVs but I think I'll have to get a LCD as a stop gap.

It's not the next step, OLED is the next step. For now, LaserTV is just Mitsubishi's pipe dream, and it ain't that great of a dream. There's really nothing fantastic about LaserTV. The only thing cool about it is, it has "Laser" in the name. Like I said, OLED will be the next step but that's still a ways off. So buy what you want now and don't worry about the future.
 

erwos

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Originally posted by: JackBurton
Originally posted by: JTsyo
How long before you can get a 42" laser TV for under 2K? I remember afters CES '08 they were at like 7K, I forget the size though. It seems to be the next step in TVs but I think I'll have to get a LCD as a stop gap.

It's not the next step, OLED is the next step. For now, LaserTV is just Mitsubishi's pipe dream, and it ain't that great of a dream. There's really nothing fantastic about LaserTV. The only thing cool about it is, it has "Laser" in the name. Like I said, OLED will be the next step but that's still a ways off. So buy what you want now and don't worry about the future.
So, let me get this straight: a 65" laser display with insane display quality is "a pipe dream", but an 11" OLED that loses half its brightness in 6 months is "the next step". I think you are massively underestimating the quality and progress of Mitsubishi's LaserVue set and the technology behind it.

Unfortunately, the market seems completely unwilling to buy anything that's more than 2" deep, so that might doom the LaserVue anyways. No accounting for taste, I suppose.
 

JTsyo

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Originally posted by: JackBurton
Originally posted by: JTsyo
How long before you can get a 42" laser TV for under 2K? I remember afters CES '08 they were at like 7K, I forget the size though. It seems to be the next step in TVs but I think I'll have to get a LCD as a stop gap.

It's not the next step, OLED is the next step. For now, LaserTV is just Mitsubishi's pipe dream, and it ain't that great of a dream. There's really nothing fantastic about LaserTV. The only thing cool about it is, it has "Laser" in the name. Like I said, OLED will be the next step but that's still a ways off. So buy what you want now and don't worry about the future.

Looking at an old review. They had only good things to talk about the picture quality.

To dive into the nittier gritter, it has the widest color gamut of any set Gary's ever tested, far beyond the HDTV Rec. 709 broadcast standard: "Reds are so intense and crimson they?re indescribable. Ditto for yellows, purples and other colors and hues."

And brightness against the brightest LCDs is like the sun against the moon: 110.88-foot lamberts, compared to 70 for the most eyeball-pounding LCDs, when they aren't calibrated to show deep blacks?then they usually drop to about 30. Yet the LaserVue produces "jet black" blacks. Yet the power consumption is positively green: A mere 94 watts on average drive its intense 65-inch screen. LCDs and plasmas use 3x-4x that, and often more.
 

JackBurton

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Originally posted by: erwos
Originally posted by: JackBurton
Originally posted by: JTsyo
How long before you can get a 42" laser TV for under 2K? I remember afters CES '08 they were at like 7K, I forget the size though. It seems to be the next step in TVs but I think I'll have to get a LCD as a stop gap.

It's not the next step, OLED is the next step. For now, LaserTV is just Mitsubishi's pipe dream, and it ain't that great of a dream. There's really nothing fantastic about LaserTV. The only thing cool about it is, it has "Laser" in the name. Like I said, OLED will be the next step but that's still a ways off. So buy what you want now and don't worry about the future.
So, let me get this straight: a 65" laser display with insane display quality is "a pipe dream", but an 11" OLED that loses half its brightness in 6 months is "the next step". I think you are massively underestimating the quality and progress of Mitsubishi's LaserVue set and the technology behind it.

Unfortunately, the market seems completely unwilling to buy anything that's more than 2" deep, so that might doom the LaserVue anyways. No accounting for taste, I suppose.

LaserVue doesn't offer anything better than what Pioneer already released (well besides a 5" larger screen). Most people that have seen LaserVue in action and have been very unimpressed. So spec sheets don't always translate into real world performance. On top of that, people are reporting problems with the tech already. It's not as fantastic as Mitsubishi makes it out to be. If LaserVue came on the scene and blew every other set out of the water, I would have definitely taken a second look at it. But given that it DIDN'T, AND it is rear projection, I consider it a dead tech before it really hit the scene. It's just not that great.

And go back and read my post. I said OLED won't be ready for prime time any time soon. HOWEVER, the 11" OLED gives a VERY nice glimpse into the future for this tech. And with an 11" screen and less than HD resolution, it still blew everyone away that saw it in person.
 

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I have yet to find a store that has the Mits laser TV on display. with the recession, I doubt that any store would even have it in stock.
 

erwos

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Originally posted by: JackBurton
Originally posted by: JTsyo
Looking at an old review. They had only good things to talk about the picture quality.

If you want to read up on it with people that actually own it or have seen it in person, have at it.
The owners thread is here:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1108686

Most of the people who "saw" the TV on the thread you linked were just looking at it in Fry's - not exactly what I'd call very useful viewing. I'd trust professional reviews over that any day of the week, good impression or bad.
 

JackBurton

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Originally posted by: erwos
Originally posted by: JackBurton
Originally posted by: JTsyo
Looking at an old review. They had only good things to talk about the picture quality.

If you want to read up on it with people that actually own it or have seen it in person, have at it.
The owners thread is here:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1108686

Most of the people who "saw" the TV on the thread you linked were just looking at it in Fry's - not exactly what I'd call very useful viewing. I'd trust professional reviews over that any day of the week, good impression or bad.

I posted the anticipation thread because it has A LOT more information than the 8 page 2 owner "Owners Thread."

Understand, LaserVue was supposed to be out October of last year. It was then pushed back to Nov, then Dec, then ???. It is now JULY, and it is STILL MIA. This right there should set off some red flags. There have only been a handful of people that have seen it in person let alone own it. And the small group of people that HAVE bought it are already reporting problems with it.

This tech is great for the progression of rear projection tech, but I don't think it is the next evolutionary step for HD. It's just nothing earth shattering. OLED is the next step in HD. But that won't be here for another ~5 years. Until then, baby steps.