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How many laws do we really need?

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PoAT.PaN

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I was just thinking about the thousands of laws that exist in the USA. How is it tenable to have that many? Are that many really necessary? Maybe its time to go through and simplify. What are you thoughts? How many laws should there be?
 
Depends how one defines need. Laws are a mixture of pragmatism, morals, and just enabling smooth social interaction.

I would personally eliminate virtually all business law, taxation law, company law, laws on drugs/prostitution, and simply have a criminal code concerning theft, assault, murder, rape, etc.
 
Legal simplicity needs to be more valued when legislators are doing their thing. Right now it's not a factor at all. Although liberals like Sandorski are frequent troublemakers (he would probably want to micromanage everything), conservatives can be just as bad. They don't mind regulating health care for example, when abortion is involved.

Everyone agrees murder needs to be in the books. But then if some firefighter dies everyone jumps on board for a new provision saying that killing a firefighter in the line of duty gets more years. These things add up and soon we have a bloated system of laws.
 
Infohawk said:
Legal simplicity needs to be more valued when legislators are doing their thing. Right now it's not a factor at all. Although liberals like Sandorski are frequent troublemakers (he would probably want to micromanage everything), conservatives can be just as bad. They don't mind regulating health care for example, when abortion is involved.

Everyone agrees murder needs to be in the books. But then if some firefighter dies everyone jumps on board for a new provision saying that killing a firefighter in the line of duty gets more years. These things add up and soon we have a bloated system of laws.
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In other the words, the problem is morons driven by emotion rather than logic: the loony fringe at both ends.
 
Infohawk said:
Legal simplicity needs to be more valued when legislators are doing their thing. Right now it's not a factor at all. Although liberals like Sandorski are frequent troublemakers (he would probably want to micromanage everything), conservatives can be just as bad. They don't mind regulating health care for example, when abortion is involved.

Everyone agrees murder needs to be in the books. But then if some firefighter dies everyone jumps on board for a new provision saying that killing a firefighter in the line of duty gets more years. These things add up and soon we have a bloated system of laws.
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Oh ya, Trouble Maker extrodinaire!
 
mammador said:
Depends how one defines need. Laws are a mixture of pragmatism, morals, and just enabling smooth social interaction.

I would personally eliminate virtually all business law, taxation law, company law, laws on drugs/prostitution, and simply have a criminal code concerning theft, assault, murder, rape, etc.
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You would personally do that for me? Why not just go all the way and empower me so that Anything I say goes! That's pretty pragmatic. At least people have actually done it before and made it work unlike your suggestion.
 
BoberFett said:
In other the words, the problem is morons driven by emotion rather than logic: the loony fringe at both ends.
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dude that's three times today we agreed!




When it comes to laws and regulation a fine balance needs to be struck. Its not easy and its been far from perfect but like most things it could always be much worse.



When talking about laws and regulation I always think back to a specific book, "The Concrete Jungle"
 
There are WAY too many laws! I think we need to pass a new law against having so many!
 
PoAT.PaN said:
How many laws do we really need?

I was just thinking about the thousands of laws that exist in the USA. How is it tenable to have that many? Are that many really necessary? Maybe its time to go through and simplify. What are you thoughts? How many laws should there be?
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When I was invited to the legislature in Georgia after they passed the law for me, the state legislature said that his job is to pass as many laws as he possibly can.
 
Schadenfroh said:
As many as we can fit on twelve tables.
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The law shouldn't describe punishments, it should just describe what is illegal. Judges and juries can decide who is guilty, and the arena can decide their fate. Otherwise we'd have to feed the lions either too much or too little too often.
 
If there has to be governmental law, then only crimes involving victims should be prosecuted. Also, governments should be prohibited from collecting money from fines nor should they imprison people. Instead, the criminal and/or their money should go directly to the victim(s) and how much of their property or how much time they serve another person should be given should be decided by law.
 
Its not the number of laws, its the amount that actually get enforced.
Every time somebody sees something they dont like, they get a law passed to ban it or regulate it. And thats not necessarily a bad thing, provided they hire one more cop to enforce it.
But they never do. They pass law after law after law and never stop to think that by outlawing more activities they are basically making crime. You need more law enforcement officers to enforce more laws. In some cases you need to make a whole new type of law enforcement or add new departments to existing agencies, like cyber crimes at the FBI.

Dont believe me? Just stop and take a good hard look at your day and see how many laws get broken. The obvious is traffic violations. In fact those are so common most people dont even consider them real crimes. We have a special court just for those cuz the government doesnt take them seriously either. Dont wanna clog up real court.

But other laws, like all the health regulations in a food service place, peoples income taxes (applicable this time of year), waste disposal, and every other god damn thing. Why? So many fucking laws. Cant keep track of all of them and cops cant be bother to enforce all of them.
 
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