How many inches is the subwoofer on the Logitech Z560 Speakers?

zCypher

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who cares?

its a good set, its 400w RMS I believe, which is quite a lot of power. :p
 

damonpip

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If it's a good speaker, 400 watts doesn't mean sh$t. My old RS speakers are fvcking loud at 2 watts, and they do have some real bass.
 

0roo0roo

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better to read from the site, its got pics

Point one - not enough amp power. No way is that a 400VA toroidal in the corner of the box. It'd have to be a bit beefier even than that, of course, because the amp isn't 100 per cent efficient. If it were, it wouldn't need a heat sink.

Point two - insufficiently chunky drivers, with embarrassingly low power ratings printed on them.

Such things as almost-200-watt eight inch drivers exist. If you want to cheat then you can make a zillion watt speaker by putting a crowbar across its input wires; now you can pump vast amounts of power through that speaker (if you define the crowbar as being part of the speaker...), and it won't make any more noise than it would from far less power without the crowbar. In other words, its efficiency is now astoundingly poor.

That's not what Logitech are doing; it's not what any sane speaker builder does. The drivers in these speakers have perfectly OK efficiency for their size. If the eight inch bass driver had an ultra-humungous magnet around a similarly huge voice coil and a unit retail price up around $AU200, then it'd be plausible for it to have better than 150 watt power handling.

That's not the kind of driver that's in there, though. The back of the sub driver hides behind the huge bent port, but you can peer through the gap to see the mere hundred watt rating.

Similarly, I suppose it's possible to make a three inch mid/treble driver, like the ones in the Z-560 satellites, which can handle 53 watts. I don't know whether any such product actually exists on the retail market, but I'd be happy to learn otherwise.

Once again, though, that's not what Logitech have actually used. 15 watts, people. A Tangband Speakers W3-665SC, to be exact. Which isn't listed on the Tangband site; I just linked to that site out of malice.

Exceed the rated power handling by a significant margin for a significant period and you'll kill the driver. Unless the sticker ratings are very conservative, therefore, one 100 watt sub plus four 15 watt sats is 160 watts. QED.
http://www.dansdata.com/speakersets.htm
 

Ionizer86

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Boston Acoustics BA-735's sub is really good for something so small too. 5.5x6x7.

My ATP3's sub is so big, but it's not very strong...I knew shoulda got some Z-340's...maybe I'll have to get another set to bring to college....lugging this huge sub around would'nt be very fun, lol
 

faZZter

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The Z-560's sound damn good for what they cost........no matter what size it is....
 

Flyermax2k3

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Computer speakers suck. My home theater system has 600W, 5.1 surround sound, 5 disc DVD changer, Dolby & DTS, & plays almost all forms of media known to man. My HT system ownz j00!!! And it all cost $50 less than your stupid computer speakers.
 

Shockwave

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I wanted to read dansdata, but found this

"Subwoofers are meant to be what the name suggests - below a woofer, and dealing only with the really low bass. Certainly below 80Hz (cycles per second) and probably below 40Hz. Once you're down below 40Hz, you're actually rather deeper than you need, for a lot of program material. A great deal of music doesn't have any bass to speak of below about 60Hz, and most listening rooms are small enough that you need amazing amounts of power and/or a very efficient sub to get a decent amount of audio energy into the air at that frequency.

30Hz sound waves are more than 11 metres long; if your listening room is considerably smaller than that in all dimensions (which it probably is) then you're pushing fertiliser uphill if you want high output at that frequency."

And began to question his credibility. Thus, I quit reading it.
 

pray4mojo

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Originally posted by: Flyermax2k3
Computer speakers suck. My home theater system has 600W, 5.1 surround sound, 5 disc DVD changer, Dolby & DTS, & plays almost all forms of media known to man. My HT system ownz j00!!! And it all cost $50 less than your stupid computer speakers.

I didn't pay $1050 for my computer speakers. :)
 

Pilsnerpete

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Originally posted by: pray4mojo
Originally posted by: Flyermax2k3
Computer speakers suck. My home theater system has 600W, 5.1 surround sound, 5 disc DVD changer, Dolby & DTS, & plays almost all forms of media known to man. My HT system ownz j00!!! And it all cost $50 less than your stupid computer speakers.

I didn't pay $1050 for my computer speakers. :)

me neither. barely over $200 (w/shipping), but I ordered some more stuff like a sound card and a hard drive to even the shipping price out a bit. It seemed like a good idea.;)
 

BillGates

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Originally posted by: Flyermax2k3
Computer speakers suck. My home theater system has 600W, 5.1 surround sound, 5 disc DVD changer, Dolby & DTS, & plays almost all forms of media known to man. My HT system ownz j00!!! And it all cost $50 less than your stupid computer speakers.

Is your system DTS certified? Also, how can your system HAVE 600 watts? It sounds to me like you're kinda ignorant....
 

Flyermax2k3

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Originally posted by: BillGates
Originally posted by: Flyermax2k3
Computer speakers suck. My home theater system has 600W, 5.1 surround sound, 5 disc DVD changer, Dolby & DTS, & plays almost all forms of media known to man. My HT system ownz j00!!! And it all cost $50 less than your stupid computer speakers.

Is your system DTS certified? Also, how can your system HAVE 600 watts? It sounds to me like you're kinda ignorant....

"More like: YOU write a book about comback jokes" I could care less about proper terminology for audio equipment. I'm not an audiophile - I just know my HT system looks and sounds great. I may very well be ignorant when it comes to audio equipment. That's fine with me. There are much more imporant things for me to be concerned with than being a 1337 audiophile. Get a life.