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How many here regard themselves as '9/11 Republicans' ?

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syzygy

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at the core of the conversion is a late-blooming realization that you cannot just sit back and
allow these murderers to run amok and expect a missile lobbed against a pill factory in the
middle of the sudan to pass muster as an effective military response.

you realize that strength alone is impotence under a different guise if you lack the cahones
to put metal against stone.

you have come to realize that YOUR government is now the only entity that can unleash
righteous power against these mass murderers.

you realize that dictators cannot hold the world polity hostage because they avail themselves
to diplomatic niceties while harboring wmd dreams.

these voters choose to maintain their independence, or old party affiliation, but will support
the president because now new-old rules need to be dusted off and the republicans are home
to the only people who have demonstrated the will to act resolutely.

i see these '9/11 republicans' as being defined and motivated by one issue - the war on
terrorism. they may never vote republican again. they wont vote republican for any
local elections. but the nationals are a stepping stone to the evil that lies overseas.
 
Originally posted by: Orsorum
Where did you dream up this pile of neoconservative drivel?
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Maybe he speaks to Angels in his dreams! Sounds eerily like something Joseph Goebbels would have said to the German People after the burning of the Riechstag!
 
Originally posted by: Orsorum
Where did you dream up this pile of neoconservative drivel?
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It is what has driven me away from the Reps. I think he is a closet pacifist with the intent of driving people from Bush.

Effective too.
 
Ummm I believe this is called Totalitarianism...if not "blind loyalty", at the very least.

Either way, quite a dangerous way of thinking,,,,especially since Bush's Regime "allowed" or led us into 9/11 ithemselves for us to follow the Piper (Bush).
 
Originally posted by: syzygy
at the core of the conversion is a late-blooming realization ....
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Someones in the dark. Watch Noam Chomskys America's new war on Terror. That will gain some perspective. You need to do some reading and get enlightened.

Jefferson said "Dissent is the highest form of patriotism." This is about 180 from Bush

 
Too close to the 'analysis' that says the current administration is doing a good job because we have not had an attack for three years.
 
Originally posted by: syzygy
at the core of the conversion is a late-blooming realization that you cannot just sit back and
allow these murderers to run amok and expect a missile lobbed against a pill factory in the
middle of the sudan to pass muster as an effective military response.
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An absurd point because the response was not to 9/11. We have no idea how Clinton would have responded to that except that it would have been with far more intelligence than what Bush did.
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you realize that strength alone is impotence under a different guise if you lack the cahones
to put metal against stone.
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And this is new and different that what's always been in what way?
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you have come to realize that YOUR government is now the only entity that can unleash
righteous power against these mass murderers.
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Absurd point. The issue is not the entity but the methodology. In the hands of the Moron we got a moronic response, for example.
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you realize that dictators cannot hold the world polity hostage because they avail themselves
to diplomatic niceties while harboring wmd dreams.

Oh, no, the WMD were threatening a 45 min nuclear response, right. I mean they were real, not a dream. We don't punish people for thoughts or dreams, right?
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these voters choose to maintain their independence, or old party affiliation, but will support
the president because now new-old rules need to be dusted off and the republicans are home
to the only people who have demonstrated the will to act resolutely.
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Resolution does not equate to stupidity, I'm sure, nor does it create a was between civilizations. Bush might as well be on Osama's payroll for all the damage to the US he's done.
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i see these '9/11 republicans' as being defined and motivated by one issue - the war on
terrorism. they may never vote republican again. they wont vote republican for any
local elections. but the nationals are a stepping stone to the evil that lies overseas.

The motivation is not the war on terrorism, but the blind fear of psychologically unsophisticated people used by cunning politicians to insure their reelection.
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you realize that dictators cannot hold the world polity hostage because they avail themselves
to diplomatic niceties while harboring wmd dreams.
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Wow, you just insulted half of our allies on the war on terror. Neocons, hypocrites till the end.
 
I fail to see how we are supposed to go living normal lives while being preached to about terrorism, WMD's etc. on a daily basis. This whole "war on terrorism" is just a "wag the dog" reelection attempt. The Repug's are only concerned about 4 more years. Anybody with any common sense at all can see through it. It is similar to how MaCarthy used "communism" as a fear factor to further his political ambitions.

I think/hope that there are just as many if not more 9/11 Democrats as there are 9/11 Repug's.

 
Originally posted by: Ethex

is similar to how MaCarthy used "communism" as a fear factor to further his political ambitions.
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Turned out He was right
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uhhh explain.........
I would guess that your one of those that buy into the Reagan saved the world crap.......we defeated the evil commie bastards etc etc...

I smell Kool-Aid
 
uhhh explain.........
I would guess that your one of those that buy into the Reagan saved the world crap.......we defeated the evil commie bastards etc etc...

I smell Kool-Aid
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Read "The Venona Secrets" (Regnery);"Venona" (Yale University Press); "The Secret History Of the KGB" (Basic Books); "The Secret World Of American Communism" (Yale University Press); and "Joseph McCarthy: Reexamining the life and legacy of America's most hated Senator" (Free Press)


You would be wrong to guess that. While I believe Reagan had a hand in it I think that John Paul II being from Polland had more to do with it.


BTW, We did defeat the evil commie bastards.
 
Originally posted by: Ethex
uhhh explain.........
I would guess that your one of those that buy into the Reagan saved the world crap.......we defeated the evil commie bastards etc etc...

I smell Kool-Aid
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Read "The Venona Secrets" (Regnery);"Venona" (Yale University Press); "The Secret History Of the KGB" (Basic Books); "The Secret World Of American Communism" (Yale University Press); and "Joseph McCarthy: Reexamining the life and legacy of America's most hated Senator" (Free Press)


You would be wrong to guess that. While I believe Reagan had a hand in it I think that John Paul II being from Polland had more to do with it.


BTW, We did defeat the evil commie bastards.
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Really, and the people marching in Prague, Berlin and Vilnius (Lithuania) had nothing to do with it? What about reforms pushed through an unwilling Kremlin by Gorbechev?
 
Originally posted by: Ethex

is similar to how MaCarthy used "communism" as a fear factor to further his political ambitions.
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Turned out He was right
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LMAO

Joseph McCarthy was a sleazy bully. He ruined the careers of hundreds of innocent men and women to advance his own. Yet for all of the suffering he directly caused, not to mention the pervasive fear in liberal circles of being unfairly associated with Communism which he indirectly gave birth to, throughout his entire senatorial career, he never once was able to directly convict a single suspected Communist of a crime.

Just like GWB can't find any WMD>
 
LMAO

Joseph McCarthy was a sleazy bully. He ruined the careers of hundreds of innocent men and women to advance his own. Yet for all of the suffering he directly caused, not to mention the pervasive fear in liberal circles of being unfairly associated with Communism which he indirectly gave birth to, throughout his entire senatorial career, he never once was able to directly convict a single suspected Communist of a crime.

Just like GWB can't find any WMD>
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Joseph McCarthy was a sleazy bully, also was an alcoholic and eventually died from cirrhosis of the liver. Even if he beat his wife and kicked small dogs it wouldn't detract from the fact that he was right.


he never once was able to directly convict a single suspected Communist of a crime
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O.J. wasn't convicted either.
 
Really, and the people marching in Prague, Berlin and Vilnius (Lithuania) had nothing to do with it? What about reforms pushed through an unwilling Kremlin by Gorbechev?
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Acually they did and and several other things you failed to menition as well. Should I believe you don't think anything but the things you have mentioned lead to the collapse?

 
I supported the Bush administration and the war in Iraq - until the lying started. So I guess that makes me a "WMD Democrat".
 
Originally posted by: syzygy
you realize that strength alone is impotence under a different guise if you lack the cahones
to put metal against stone.

you have come to realize that YOUR government is now the only entity that can unleash
righteous power against these mass murderers.

i see these '9/11 republicans' as being defined and motivated by one issue - the war on
terrorism. they may never vote republican again. they wont vote republican for any
local elections. but the nationals are a stepping stone to the evil that lies overseas.
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First of all, it's "cojones."
Second, by "righteous power" I can only assume you mean "mass murder."
Thirdly, evil is in the eye of the beholder.
 
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