How many gallons do you think a gas station need to sell to make up for a 20 gallon drive off?

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Ylen13

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Originally posted by: Bleep
In california where is the temp tag acquired?
In Nebraska where I live if you buy a car from a individual or anyone that does not have a dealers licience there is no temp tag. You can drive without plates for 15 days from date of purchase but if stopped you must have proof of onership and proof of insurance.

Bleep

i was talking about new cars only. Used cars usually have plates so it wouldn't apply to this
 

Mill

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Originally posted by: Ylen13
Originally posted by: Bleep
In california where is the temp tag acquired?
In Nebraska where I live if you buy a car from a individual or anyone that does not have a dealers licience there is no temp tag. You can drive without plates for 15 days from date of purchase but if stopped you must have proof of onership and proof of insurance.

Bleep

i was talking about new cars only. Used cars usually have plates so it wouldn't apply to this

Not true. In Alabama cars do not have to get plates for 15 days new or used.
 

technogeeky

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Wow. There is a lot of misconception here, but also a lot of good points.


I worked at a gas station for 4 months. Plenty long enough to get to know things like this. Of course all of the information with regards to these statistics depends on the size of the gas station or which corporation it is.


That being said, from what I know.

1. Some states force pre-pay. When drive-off's usually get particularly bad in a certain area, most companies will switch to pre-pay only.
2. For states that don't force pre-pay of some sort, most state that they you will loose your liscencse:

This is not exactly true. Most (at least corporate) gas stations will not report you, period. The one that I worked for is this way.
If you drive off after pumping a tank of gas, we would record the loss and move on. We would NOT approach you about it, not chase you down, and not call the police (unless, perhaps, you had done it multiple times at one location).

Consider the scenario: Two people pull up to two different pumps (seperated by perhaps 2 or 3 minutes) and start pumping gas. One person drives off and we call the police (as if they really care). Then, the second person comes into the store and says "Hey - i'll pay for me and my wife."

Instant lawsuit.

3. Many (perhaps even most) gas stations do not make money off of gas (due to a number of reasons, including gas). They make money off of what they sell inside the store, though - which is why pre-pay isn't nationwide. Pre-pay discourages people buying things other than gas because of the longer waits. Either way, gas isn't that profitable for the station.

4. Most corporations get stipends for a certain amount of drive-offs (it's an assumed cost of running a gas station). The place I worked at has measures to reduce drive off.
 

thomsbrain

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Originally posted by: AgentEL
in CA, you have to pay for the gas before they give it to you. What's the advantage of having it any other way?


yeah seriously, it's your own fault for setting up your pumps so people can steal.

edit: obviously it's not his fault. what i should have said was: "you're making it very easy for people to steal from you."
 

etech

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Originally posted by: Bleep
Our local Casey dealer makes 22 cents per gallon and it is trucked in 300 miles from Iowa, they are selling reg for $1.49
Wholesale gas prices are only 93 cents or thereabouts.
Wholesale unleaded gasoline for delivery in May was 93.35 cents a gallon at the close of trading Wednesday in New York, down from the recent high of $1.1633 March 10, according to Beutel's records
LINK

Bleep


I don't believe that the wholesale price includes the state and federal taxes that are added on at the point of sale. Unless I missed something I think the profit margin is much less that what you stated.
 

TheShiz

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i thought everyone knew that gas stations don't make much money on gas, its all on lottery tickets, food, and cigarettes and other crap.
 

cavemanmoron

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Originally posted by: Tyler
In your case, I suggest you should fix the credit card machine. Many people are probably not even looking at the thing after they finish pumping, they just assume that since they swiped thier card, they've paid and when they finish pumping, they leave.

yes,that is what i would guess,
if my credit/debit card was approved,it would allow me to pump the gas,
i do not always hit the yes button,when it asks if i want a reciept.
so it is possible,that i maybe,could have pumped my fuel,and then just left.
:confused:
 

Christoph

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Originally posted by: vi_edit
Here is essentially what was happening -

We have the pay at the pump access. Swipe your card, start pumping. Ok no problems. But what was happening was a problem with the credit transaction at the end of the fill up when the pump prints your receipt. Instead of giving you a receipt, the pump told you that there was an error processing your transaction and that you needed to pay inside. Some people went inside, some didn't.
Under those circumstances, I probably wouldn't go inside. I generally don't get a receipt, and don't really pay attention to the pump display, so I would just put the nozzle back and drive off without seeing the message.

Doesn't the system (pump/POS/whatever) batch up the failed transactions and retry them once once it's back online?
 

flot

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Vi -

I hope your company wasn't actually considering prosecuting people who drove off. If I stick my CC in a pump, and it lets me pump gas - I don't care what it does, I'm leaving when I'm done pumping gas. 1/3 of the time I don't think I even read what the pump has to say when it's done.. and typically when I see an error it's usually something that seems like it's trying to say "The receipt printer isn't working"....
 

mjquilly

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It really sucks on a motorcycle to have to pay before you pump. mmmm, lets see, I've gone 110 miles, I usually get 37 miles a gallon, so thats 2.97 gallons gone from my tank, so...2.97 gallons times $1.579/gallon is.....I'LL NEED $4.68 worth of gas please!
 

Pepsi90919

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Originally posted by: kevin000
How can you drive off? Self-Serve you either have to pay first ot swipe your credit card. Full-Serve the guy is standing right there...

no. on self-serve you pump first then go inside and pay.