How many Americans deaths will Trump be directly responsible for due to COVID-45

[Fenixgoon]

But the blame also falls on the general population. Selfish people not taking this seriously. No matter how poor leadership handles this, individual actions as a community could also nip this in the bud.

People follow leadership though. If Trump wore a mask and took this seriously, we'd be in much better shape.

Sure there would still be people who refuse to wear masks, but their numbers would be a lot smaller than what we have now.

 

[fskimospy]

So much we still dont know about this virus.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2020/07/31/georgia-children-covid-outbreak/

Yeah I saw this - it does not bode well for the consequences of school reopening.

 

[you2]

Not sure in this rare case I would blame everyone; many of these people are morons who blindly believe fox garbage along with Trump.

But the blame also falls on the general population. Selfish people not taking this seriously. No matter how poor leadership handles this, individual actions as a community could also nip this in the bud.

 

[Jhhnn]

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People follow leadership though. If Trump wore a mask and took this seriously, we'd be in much better shape.

Sure there would still be people who refuse to wear masks, but their numbers would be a lot smaller than what we have now.

Absolutely. Much of the shit Conservatives believe in never would have occurred to them had it no been astroturfed right into their heads.

 

[Nereus77]

in the United States and Brazil that is currently true, for the vast majority of the world it isn't. that's because the rest of the world has competent leadership that was able to flatten the curve and bring infections down to very small numbers.

South Africa and India are going to post some huge numbers this month 😔

 

[[DHT]Osiris]

Throwing this here, as I'm not sure it's worth a entirely new topic. Zoom convo with family in SC and one said that the school district was going to be online-only, but has been forced by the governor to reopen in-person. Quick google later, and I find this confirming it:

Some S.C. school districts ‘forced’ to evaluate reopening plans after governor’s announcement

WBTV checked all seven of the school districts in our area. Every single one put out a message yesterday saying the Governor’s announcement has “forced them to reevaluate their opening plans.”

www.wbtv.com

Sounds like 'you don't have to do in-person only, but the state superintendent will reject any plans that do not include in-person'. Brilliant move, SC.

 

[blackangst1]

South Africa and India are going to post some huge numbers this month 😔

And theyre both pro-mask

 

[alien42]

But the blame also falls on the general population. Selfish people not taking this seriously. No matter how poor leadership handles this, individual actions as a community could also nip this in the bud.

the message, both words and action, still has to rain down from the very top.

i heard on NPR today of a recent study that showed where masks were mandated, positive cases fell around 20% and where they were only recommended, cases increased by around 80%. i understand there are plenty of other factors but the Trump administration didn't even recommend masks for months while the pandemic grew.

 

[alien42]

And theyre both pro-mask

do you realize that your shtick is exactly the same as Louie Gohmert?

 

[amenx]

Not sure if this was already posted but in case it wasn't, this is the worse offense yet, worse than Ukraine. Assuming it's accurate there's a decent case he should be impeached again, right now.

How Jared Kushner’s Secret Testing Plan “Went Poof Into Thin Air”

This spring, a team working under the president’s son-in-law produced a plan for an aggressive, coordinated national COVID-19 response that could have brought the pandemic under control. So why did the White House spike it in favor of a shambolic 50-state response?

www.vanityfair.com

They decided not to move forward with a comprehensive plan to fight the virus because they thought they could blame Democrats for the deaths. They deliberately decided not to fight a deadly pandemic virus that would kill thousands of the citizens they were sworn to protect... because they thought they could blame someone else.

These people do not need to just be voted out, they need to be prosecuted.

Near Hitlerian in scope and intent.

 

[sportage]

If Donald Trump is so hell bent on killing everyone Trump might as well do it all at once. Press the red button Donald, you know you want to.

 

[you2]

Great ! Another REPUBLICAN who doesn't give a shit about kids.

Throwing this here, as I'm not sure it's worth a entirely new topic. Zoom convo with family in SC and one said that the school district was going to be online-only, but has been forced by the governor to reopen in-person. Quick google later, and I find this confirming it:

Some S.C. school districts ‘forced’ to evaluate reopening plans after governor’s announcement

WBTV checked all seven of the school districts in our area. Every single one put out a message yesterday saying the Governor’s announcement has “forced them to reevaluate their opening plans.”

www.wbtv.com

Sounds like 'you don't have to do in-person only, but the state superintendent will reject any plans that do not include in-person'. Brilliant move, SC.

 

[cytg111]

How about them apples

Demands for Kushner to Resign Over 'Staggering' Level of 'Depravity' That Put Politics Before Public Health

"Holy hell. Jared Kushner reportedly abandoned a national testing plan because it was *politically advantageous* to sit back and let blue states be eviscerated by the virus."

www.commondreams.org

 

[ch33zw1z]

United States COVID - Coronavirus Statistics - Worldometer

United States Coronavirus update with statistics and graphs: total and new cases, deaths per day, mortality and recovery rates, current active cases, recoveries, trends and timeline.

www.worldometers.info

Sigh, another day, another 70k cases and almost 1500 deaths.

 

[Indus]

And theyre both pro-mask

LOL Indians pro-mask? Are you high?

 

[Jhhnn]

And theyre both pro-mask

Imagine how much worse it would be if they weren't...

 

[blackangst1]

Imagine how much worse it would be if they weren't...

Yep

 

[purbeast0]

It is unreal how political this whole fucking thing has been.

There is a local sports radio I listen to daily and it's CLEAR what side 1 of the guys falls on, and just TODAY they were talking to the governor of Maryland, Larry Hogan, and in the discussion this one host said that he believes he feels sicker because he wears masks, then proceeds to talk about how dirty they are, as if he cannot wash one.

I mean he NEVER said this before and probably NEVER would have had that one idiot governor said the same thing the other day.

 

[JEDI]

 

[ivwshane]

It is unreal how political this whole fucking thing has been.

There is a local sports radio I listen to daily and it's CLEAR what side 1 of the guys falls on, and just TODAY they were talking to the governor of Maryland, Larry Hogan, and in the discussion this one host said that he believes he feels sicker because he wears masks, then proceeds to talk about how dirty they are, as if he cannot wash one.

I mean he NEVER said this before and probably NEVER would have had that one idiot governor said the same thing the other day.

I wear a mask over 8 hours a day and when I’m done, other than being wrinkled it looks clean. If they are getting dirty and gross then take a fucking shower you disgusting piece of shit! (To the radio guy not you of course). I wear the disposable kind though and not the reusable ones (which I know people aren’t cleaning daily which is gross and pointless).

 

[Fanatical Meat]

I wear a mask over 8 hours a day and when I’m done, other than being wrinkled it looks clean. If they are getting dirty and gross then take a fucking shower you disgusting piece of shit! (To the radio guy not you of course). I wear the disposable kind though and not the reusable ones (which I know people aren’t cleaning daily which is gross and pointless).

It is so easy to clean the cloth masks it is trivial. Soap and water, smoosh it around, rinse. Shit you could do it when you wash your hands and leave it in the sun to dry.
Dirty masks are a real lame excuse.

 

[purbeast0]

I wear a mask over 8 hours a day and when I’m done, other than being wrinkled it looks clean. If they are getting dirty and gross then take a fucking shower you disgusting piece of shit! (To the radio guy not you of course). I wear the disposable kind though and not the reusable ones (which I know people aren’t cleaning daily which is gross and pointless).

Yeah I mean if your mask is dirty it's 100% on you. He even said "yeah sure you can clean them, but who does that?" Well if you are so worried about your dirty mask, I would think you would do just that.

It was funny because before he made his stupid comment he was like "I am not a doctor, but..."

And when Larry Hogan responded, the very first thing he said was "Well thankfully you are not a doctor..."

 

[ivwshane]

Yeah I mean if your mask is dirty it's 100% on you. He even said "yeah sure you can clean them, but who does that?" Well if you are so worried about your dirty mask, I would think you would do just that.

It was funny because before he made his stupid comment he was like "I am not a doctor, but..."

And when Larry Hogan responded, the very first thing he said was "Well thankfully you are not a doctor..."

Exactly. Hopefully he was called out on it. Maybe a little shame would do him good.

 

[purbeast0]

Exactly. Hopefully he was called out on it. Maybe a little shave would do him good.

Here you can listen to it as well.

THE SPORTS JUNKIES: Gov. Larry Hogan Interview

Maryland Governor Larry Hogan calls into The Sports Junkies on 106.7 The Fan to discuss the latest in his state's response to COVID-19, including plans to reopen schools virtually and how that affects high school sports.

thefandc.radio.com

Starts right around 7:50.

 

[ivwshane]

Damn, you quoted my typo.